Manny Pacquiao accused of assasination attempt of his political foe.
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just read the gq article on him - http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201004/manny-pacquiao-boxer
what the hell? the guy who wrote it became his chief of staff. Story didn't seem too flattering.
what the hell? the guy who wrote it became his chief of staff. Story didn't seem too flattering.
Just wanted to comment on the blood situation again.
I had to do my yearly blood work, different doctor, she pretty much checks every box there is (insurance is covering it so why not). Lady took 13 vials, I had to come back later because I can't give that much blood at once, I know my limits.
I asked her how long it would take to rejuvinate and if it would effect my training. She said it takes a couple days to get back to normal, but some people could feel weak for much longer. So I came home and looked it up:
"Generally speaking, your body will replace the fluids lost during donation in 48 hours.
Donating blood markedly reduces athletic performance for three to four weeks as it takes that long for blood hemoglobin levels to return to normal."
So Manny wasn't completely wrong.
I almost knocked out at 7 vials, had to come back a couple hours later and do 6 more.
To do a couple vials every week randomly etc., I can see his point of view.
I'm drained right now...
I had to do my yearly blood work, different doctor, she pretty much checks every box there is (insurance is covering it so why not). Lady took 13 vials, I had to come back later because I can't give that much blood at once, I know my limits.
I asked her how long it would take to rejuvinate and if it would effect my training. She said it takes a couple days to get back to normal, but some people could feel weak for much longer. So I came home and looked it up:
"Generally speaking, your body will replace the fluids lost during donation in 48 hours.
Donating blood markedly reduces athletic performance for three to four weeks as it takes that long for blood hemoglobin levels to return to normal."
So Manny wasn't completely wrong.
I almost knocked out at 7 vials, had to come back a couple hours later and do 6 more.
To do a couple vials every week randomly etc., I can see his point of view.
I'm drained right now...
If you watched 24/7, you would see molsey had to give 4 vials of blood at once, he then stated "I can totally understand why other fighters wouldn't want to do this."
So far, according to Kizar who is the head of the Nevada Athletics Department, the Olympic Doping Agency has turned in 15 vials of blood from shane (this was reported several days ago so assume it's more than that). Also, there is a chance they can take blood from shane and floyd tomorrow (day before fight) AND the actual day of the fight.
Now hopefully after reading all that, you can come to the obvious conclusion that some people out there might have a problem with that.
I know if it were me, I wouldn't want to have to give all that extra blood when it isn't even required and standard drug tests are already in place. No way man, this isn't Mayweathers Athletic Commission.
So far, according to Kizar who is the head of the Nevada Athletics Department, the Olympic Doping Agency has turned in 15 vials of blood from shane (this was reported several days ago so assume it's more than that). Also, there is a chance they can take blood from shane and floyd tomorrow (day before fight) AND the actual day of the fight.
Now hopefully after reading all that, you can come to the obvious conclusion that some people out there might have a problem with that.
I know if it were me, I wouldn't want to have to give all that extra blood when it isn't even required and standard drug tests are already in place. No way man, this isn't Mayweathers Athletic Commission.
I know I start getting dizzy at 4, and I told her that. She pulled 6 and I told her to stop..she said "one more" and I almost knocked out. They had to put a cold rag on my neck and I sat there trying not to black out for 2 solid minutes.
I also went to the gym tonight, hit for about 15 minutes, took a knee, and walk straight out.
I'm in decent shape as well, with a solid diet. Just saying, it does really drain you.He would definitely feel it in a 12 round fight.
I also went to the gym tonight, hit for about 15 minutes, took a knee, and walk straight out.
I'm in decent shape as well, with a solid diet. Just saying, it does really drain you.He would definitely feel it in a 12 round fight.
It's really ridiculous. Although, I respect Mosley for giving in to those terms. Those looked like standard 6ML vials on 24/7.
For a fact it takes up to 48 hours for your body to at least make the blood it lost. As you know blood carries oxygen, and it would kill anyone's stamina to go through tests like that (day before, day of, etc.). Would I do it for 10 million? Get in the ring and get my ass beat while passing out. Sure. Would I do it if I was Manny? Hell no.
For a fact it takes up to 48 hours for your body to at least make the blood it lost. As you know blood carries oxygen, and it would kill anyone's stamina to go through tests like that (day before, day of, etc.). Would I do it for 10 million? Get in the ring and get my ass beat while passing out. Sure. Would I do it if I was Manny? Hell no.
4 5mL X 9 visits, yeah...I don't see that happening, and I definitely think it could affect someone. Physically, it would depend on the person...but definitely mentally. How do you not understand that?
Mental is just as, if not more important than physical in the ring.
C'mon bruh, these guys are taking a lot of blood, and frequently.
Average is 10mL of blood just for the average person getting routine bloodwork, and it looks like they were taking at least 20mL on every visit.
http://www.lmbb.org/faq.html#6faq
6. How quickly does my body replace the blood I donate?
Your blood volume is replaced within a few hours. Plasma is restored following a meal. Your red cells replace themselves more slowly, usually in about 4-8 weeks.
What? F that sh..
6. How quickly does my body replace the blood I donate?
Your blood volume is replaced within a few hours. Plasma is restored following a meal. Your red cells replace themselves more slowly, usually in about 4-8 weeks.
What? F that sh..
@2-0-sixx
Why is it that you think that whoever doesn't agree with you or see
I 2 I with you must be retarded. You need get out your fucking denial mind and reconzine Pac (was) on roids and thats why he refused the Olympic style testing...Now if you think im retarded because I can see that and you can't then that makes you the retarded one!
Oh, and I can't wait to see that Pac vs Floyd fight to happen, and mark my words homie he will agree to the Olympic style testing and when that happens I gonna ask you why now and not before.
Why is it that you think that whoever doesn't agree with you or see
I 2 I with you must be retarded. You need get out your fucking denial mind and reconzine Pac (was) on roids and thats why he refused the Olympic style testing...Now if you think im retarded because I can see that and you can't then that makes you the retarded one!
Oh, and I can't wait to see that Pac vs Floyd fight to happen, and mark my words homie he will agree to the Olympic style testing and when that happens I gonna ask you why now and not before.
I was just fuckin with you man, but now you gotta say all that my statement stands. You say pac was on roids when he passed every drug test he's ever taken. Sounds like your argument holds no weight.
I guarantee you pac refuses Olympic Style drug tests. If they fight, they will use an outside agency for the random drug tests, like the one used in the NFL or NBA, etc. But it most definitely wont be Olympic shit.
I guarantee you pac refuses Olympic Style drug tests. If they fight, they will use an outside agency for the random drug tests, like the one used in the NFL or NBA, etc. But it most definitely wont be Olympic shit.
Ha, sorry 2-0...didn't mean to turn your thread into a steroid discussion.
Sure, there are a ton of steroids out there. Narrow it down into banned substances and you have a pretty fine guideline as to what is and what isn't allowed.
Strength
You know its about 12-16 weeks to run a proper cycle? Then you have a month of PCT (Post Cycle Therapy). That's 5 months. Then you have to give time to get it out of your system (depending on the AAS you took).
Endurance
Only works while you are on a cycle. You cannot build endurance on gear and retain it as if it were muscle. Any endurance chem is simple, it allows your red blood cells to retain and absorb more O2.
So for Manny to be on, he would have to take a good 7-8 months off from fighting if he wanted to build solid strength on a proper cycle without being caught, given he doesn't put on 20+ pounds. Strength = Muscle
Don't want to get into technique, movement, hips, etc. because when it comes down to AAS strength = muscle
Endurance, you have to be ON the gear for it to enhance your endurance. He's been tested plenty of times.
So someone, anyone, please tell me at what point....exactly...did Manny Pacquiao take steroids? I would love to hear it.
Sure, there are a ton of steroids out there. Narrow it down into banned substances and you have a pretty fine guideline as to what is and what isn't allowed.
Strength
You know its about 12-16 weeks to run a proper cycle? Then you have a month of PCT (Post Cycle Therapy). That's 5 months. Then you have to give time to get it out of your system (depending on the AAS you took).
Endurance
Only works while you are on a cycle. You cannot build endurance on gear and retain it as if it were muscle. Any endurance chem is simple, it allows your red blood cells to retain and absorb more O2.
So for Manny to be on, he would have to take a good 7-8 months off from fighting if he wanted to build solid strength on a proper cycle without being caught, given he doesn't put on 20+ pounds. Strength = Muscle
Don't want to get into technique, movement, hips, etc. because when it comes down to AAS strength = muscle
Endurance, you have to be ON the gear for it to enhance your endurance. He's been tested plenty of times.
So someone, anyone, please tell me at what point....exactly...did Manny Pacquiao take steroids? I would love to hear it.