Making a Dollar Out of 15 Cents

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May 8, 2002
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http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110004255
In Defense of P. Diddy
Unions mau-mau the rapper over an air-conditioned "sweatshop."

Tuesday, November 4, 2003 12:01 a.m. EST

We don't mean to be obvious, but presumably among the criteria defining a "sweatshop" is that its workers actually, uh, sweat. So when hip-hop impresario Sean "P. Diddy" Combs found himself accused of exploiting Honduran workers who are "hot" and "sweating" as they turn out his Sean John line of designer clothing, we called the factory ourselves. Turns out that among the things that distinguish the Southeast Textiles factory (Setisa) from competitors around the world is this: It's air-conditioned.

This tale, moreover, turns out to be about a lot more than one celebrity and his fashion line. It is the latest example of American union activists trying to shake down a celebrity to become a recruit for their anti-free trade agenda. The people who suffer as a result are the Hondurans for whom textile jobs are a rare opportunity up from poverty.

That's obvious enough to anyone willing to make a few calls to check out the allegedly exploitative P. Diddy plant. The owner, American expatriate Steve Hawkins, says there's a reason the factory is air-conditioned. Back in his native North Carolina, he says, his own grandmother was a sewing machine operator--as well as a union member. Mr. Hawkins likes to think he treats his Setisa workers the way he would have wanted his grandmother to have been treated.

The point Mr. Hawkins is making is that he's willing to put his Honduran factory up against any back home in the U.S. And the more that emerges about Setisa, the more it looks those hollering "Sweatshop!" have got the wrong man. After an inspection Thursday, Honduras's Labor Minister told reporters the accusations were "overblown," and Mr. Hawkins says he expects to be exonerated of any major charges in the full report the Labor Ministry is set to release today.

As for Mr. Combs, it tells you something about the mixed-up world we live in when the gravest threat to a hip-hop mogul's reputation is . . . trade. When these charges were leveled at him last week, he did the reasonable thing, saying he'd look into them. When he does we suspect he'll find that the accusations have nothing to do with improving the conditions of Setisa workers and everything to do with trying to gum up ongoing negotiations for a U.S. free trade agreement with Central American nations that would give a huge boost to the Honduran textile industry.

None of this will come as any surprise to those familiar with Charles Kernaghan, the man behind the allegations against Mr. Combs. As executive director of the National Labor Committee, Mr. Kernaghan excels at this kind of media frenzy. After first leaking his accusations to the New York Times, Mr. Kernaghan staged a well-publicized press event outside a soon-to-be-opened Sean John shop on Fifth Avenue. There he produced a 19-year-old former Setisa factory hand who detailed the exploitation she alleges goes into a Sean John shirt.

Staged just before Mr. Combs's charity run this weekend in the New York marathon, the timing was as crucial as the backdrop. Mr. Kernaghan specializes in heaving mud pies at people who trade on their public image, knowing that some will stick regardless of what turns out to be the truth.

A few years back, the object was Kathie Lee Gifford and the clothing line carried by Wal-Mart. One student who accompanied Mr. Kernaghan on the trip to Central America that preceded those accusations told us that she had second thoughts about Mr. Kernaghan when she saw how "rabid and obsessed" he was about getting Mrs. Gifford.

We'll probably never know the answer to some of Mr. Kernaghan's charges, such as whether Setisa managers yelled insults at workers. But some we can know. We've mentioned the air conditioning. Other accusations include forced overtime and "no health care." But the factory has a full-time nurse, a doctor who's there each afternoon and a pharmacy that gives medicines to workers for free. And Mr. Hawkins says he has the records to prove that the young lady in question never worked all the overtime she claims, based on a biometric hand-reader that workers use to punch in and out.

None of this, of course, would matter to Mr. Kernaghan. His argument is not that this or that factory is abusive but that the whole system is a crock. In the case of Setisa, to believe Mr. Kernaghan you have to believe not only that Mr. Hawkins runs a sweatshop but that everyone from the Honduran Labor Ministry to the compliance officer who works for Mr. Combs himself are either in cahoots or complete fools.

Though Mr. Kernaghan claims he doesn't want Mr. Combs or other American businessmen to pull out of their factories overseas, his sensational smear-first-get-to-the-truth-later campaigns only make it more difficult for them to stay. We're not sure we'll ever warm to P. Diddy's music. But when it comes to improving the lot of Honduran workers, we think we're singing the same tune.
 
May 13, 2002
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2-0-Sixx said:
OMFG!!!!

Mcfaggotbitch, just when I think you can't top yourself, you say some stupid ass shit like this.

Man, I seriously can't fucking believe you man.

A newbie might see your sig and automatically think to himself, "Wow. This Mcfaggot character is quite the humanitarian! He loves humans! What a stand up guy!" But you’re not fooling me. I've known you long enough you piece of shit. I'm sure if it was up to you 80% of the Earths population would be destroyed so you can live in your own filthy greedy world. I hope you choke on fish heads and die bitch.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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If you think that it is okay for kids to be in a sweatshop working, then you are wrong. There is no way in hell you would ever let your own child work in one, so how come it is okay for a child in another country to work in one? Instead of the pockets of these fat-ass toupe-wearing greedy pigs getting bigger, along with the tons of money they pay to athletes/celebrities to endorse their products who already make millions of dollars a year with the sport they play or movies they are in, they should pay them a fair wage to live off of. But even further than that, we should do what we are doing in Iraq and open schools for the children to attend. They deserve that instead of a few fat C.E.O.'s making millions of dollars exploiting their dire situation and cheap labor. There is no justification for greediness.
 
Mar 13, 2003
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Hmmm, when I first read the article somewhere else, it said nothing about kids being involved.

The truth is, that the economy in that country has to change in order for Diddy's company to up their pay. That 24 cents per shirt would probably compare to that $6.00 an hour we make over here.

We are simply a privilidged land. It's crazy that the Republicans would try to target this as a Democratic flaw, when the truth is that the Republicans are keeping themselves rich, and allowing the American people to be in a recession, but they wanna look like humanitarians with this propaganda.

It's a far cry from "being harassed for bathroom breaks" to the Nike of old that had 12 year old girls getting raped in broom closets. That $50 Dollar T-shirt probably only makes Diddy himself around 24 cents per article of clothing. He's not the bad guy here, it's the fact that we live in a world of caste based systems and their happen to be things called third world countries, because of countries like ours.

My father works in China and Singapore doing fitting and welding on ships and boilers. He sees these people that live in poorer conditions and make poorer wages, most of them don't even understand that they are getting ripped off, mainly because their government keeps them very secluded.

I'm becoming a Diddy fan more and more every day... not because he runs a 'sweatshop', but because he seems to be a political martyr as of late - notice how they tryed to link it to the Democratic Party?

Fun stuff, eh?
 
May 8, 2002
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AdolfOliverBush said:
If you think that it is okay for kids to be in a sweatshop working, then you are wrong.
i dont think there was ever any mention of kids being used in sweatlabor, that would obviously be wrong, but when an adult agrees to work for so much then i think he did it under his own will and we shouldnt hold companies operating in other countries under our standards, they should operate at or better standards than what are the Norm in that certain country
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
i dont think there was ever any mention of kids being used in sweatlabor, that would obviously be wrong, but when an adult agrees to work for so much then i think he did it under his own will and we shouldnt hold companies operating in other countries under our standards, they should operate at or better standards than what are the Norm in that certain country
but dont a lot of trade agreements hold the company / coroporation accountable for that? its out of that country reach to correct such problems?
 
Apr 11, 2003
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i didn't read all the posts in this thread but..

i think its sad that you all jump on p diddy's case so quickly. i also think its funny how this comes out right after he is doing something productive for his community. i was recently researching somewhere over seas where i could get some clothing manufactured and how much it would cost. i found a decent place somewhere in asia... if i did get my work done through that company and later it turned out THAT COMPANY had bad working conditions and i could get ridiculed for that... i think that's bullshit...

nike has also been accused of having kids laboring in bad working conditions, where they had to breath air that was filled with metal shavings.

now, i don't think this type of work environment should exist, but is it really puffy's fault? the company that IS EMPLOYING these workers needs to be held responsible. i'm sure some of you like nitro, would agree we should even probably invade some of these countries too...

bottom line is puffy is paying a company. that company is determining the work environment. and think about it, do you really think a $100 pair of jeans only cost $.25 to make??? ofcourse not. the company is making a profit and could probably pay the employees more, but these articles are putting too much emphasis on "$.15". every company i worked for i never made anywhere near the retail cost of the product my company was selling or developing. i don't think anyone does.

how easy do you think it is for a pregnant woman to find a job here? its a known fact employers don't even want to hire pregnant women in america. i mean there have been laws passed so questions like that don't even come up in interviews.

i'm jus sayin' ya'll read between the lines... puffy isn't a terrorist...
 
Apr 25, 2002
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My bad, I skimmed the article and made an assumption. But now you see why so many people immigrate to the U.S., especially coming from Central America. Why work down there for 25 cents a day when you can come here and make $6.75 an hour? Or you can make $100 cutting someone's lawn (I'm not saying all Central Americans cut lawns and all lawn cutters are Central Americans). We try to make it look like we are doing them a favor by providing jobs but in reality we are making a lot of them more desparate to come here because they can't make a decent lifestyle in their country.