*LIVE FROM THE SCENE* San Leadro Cop Killer taken into custody...

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^^^ NAH MAN, I FEEL WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IF MY CLOSE REALITVE OR FRIEND GOT SMOKED, I JUST PICTURE THAT COP (KNOWING MY REPUTATION) SAYING SHIT LIKE "FUCK THAT, SERVES 'EM RIGHT, ANOTHER THUG OFF THE STREET THAT WE DONT GOTTA CHASE/FIGHT AND THAT THIS COMMUNITY DONT NEED" ....

THATS WHY IM LIKE FUCK ALL LAW AUTHORITIES ALL TOGETHER ..... THEY ONLY OUT FOR THEMSELVES AND POWER CONTROL, CAUSE THIS BE THE FIRST TIME THEY FINALLY HAD IT THIER LIVES ...... BUNCHA PUSSIES IMO .....
 
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^^ naw not at all..yall are completely missin key points to being a logical reasonable person..maybe thats not what your goin for..so do ya thing..not me

the way you guys are so ignorant as to say "oh all cops abuse their power..all cops were punk ass bullies before they got the bagde" is the same way muthafuckas stereotype and judge other groups of people..you fall into some group...no matter what it is..and im sure u wouldnt want muthafuckas to judge u based on some shit somebody who lives on your street did..or somebody the same race as u did..or somebody in your family did.....for u to act like u know how all cops are..is complete muthafuckin trash and ill have no part in the argument from this point on(and this aint some cop lover bullshit..if it was any other group of people bein judged or stereotyped i would make the same argument)..peace
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
A police force ran by the people that consists of people from the community would be an effective and fair way to police communities
Yeah that'd work well for a day; right up until one of the "people" decides he wants to lead the group and then two others think they can lead better and then voting ensues, then you have the "community" split in half due to differences....I can go on if you like. It would be the same as it is now, just probably without as much racism.

Any way you slice it you have these police... they suck.... you have community police...they suck too.

All in all, I agree with Dana, it's too bad for that family.
 
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and by saying some cops do bad things so all are guilty is like sayin ok my mom got jacked by a black guy they should all be killed...my brother got jumped by some asians..they should all die.....it aint warrented..its bullshit...
Umm, no, my opinions of police are not just because of a few bad apples, the ENTIRE police force is an oppressive organization and because they are apart of it, they are guilty. Think of it as a political party. When the Democrats were slave owners and advocated slavery, each and every member of that party was guilty of oppression, regardless if some members were "good" people. The same principles apply to police. The police force is oppressive and if you are apart of that, you yourself are oppressive, regardless if you know it or not.
 
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the way you guys are so ignorant as to say "oh all cops abuse their power..all cops were punk ass bullies before they got the bagde"
I never said that so I hope you're not refering to me.

is the same way muthafuckas stereotype and judge other groups of people..
Nope. If for example, I were to judge members of the KKK as racist, right-wing radicals, would you not agree? If for example I were to judge members of the Taliban as opponents of the US and Western Ideology, would you not agree? If I were to judge police and say they are apart of an oppressive organization, would you not agree?
 
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Yeah that'd work well for a day; right up until one of the "people" decides he wants to lead the group and then two others think they can lead better and then voting ensues, then you have the "community" split in half due to differences....I can go on if you like. It would be the same as it is now, just probably without as much racism.

Any way you slice it you have these police... they suck.... you have community police...they suck too.
IMO, there would be a dramatic difference between one police force that is influenced/controlled by the rich ruling elite and one police force that is funded/controlled/influenced by average citizens of a community. In the latter, there would be no rich elite to control and manipulate the police force; there would be no rich elite to call the police to “protect” their factories and shoot-down marchers/union members, etc. There would be no rich elite to pay the police force for favors.
 
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fuck him, every expericnce i have had with a cop was bad.. from being told im a no good indian, to they could kill me and no one would care to being beat down while their laughing.... shit happens i just wish it would happen more aournd here....

cop here killed 2 people who didnt have guns, and got off...... shot a man running away from him, who said "he had a gun" but wasnt facing him and was running AWAY not towards him....... what does he get for that bullshit awards.......\

i guess it pretty easy for someone to defend a cop, when they havnt seen people they know get beat up, stopped for no reason and get pulled out at gun point, layed down at gun point for walking down the street.... serve and protect my ass, more like to kill and jack
 
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Dirty Clint said:
Yeah that'd work well for a day; right up until one of the "people" decides he wants to lead the group and then two others think they can lead better and then voting ensues, then you have the "community" split in half due to differences....I can go on if you like. It would be the same as it is now, just probably without as much racism.

Any way you slice it you have these police... they suck.... you have community police...they suck too.

All in all, I agree with Dana, it's too bad for that family.

Chairman Omali Yeshitela - African Peoples Socialist Party

"... well you know you've got to have the
police because if there were no police, look at what you'd be doing to
yourselves -- you'd be killing each other if there were no police! But the
reality is the police become necessary in human society only at that junction
in human society where it is split between those who have and those who ain't got."
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
IMO, there would be a dramatic difference between one police force that is influenced/controlled by the rich ruling elite and one police force that is funded/controlled/influenced by average citizens of a community. In the latter, there would be no rich elite to control and manipulate the police force; there would be no rich elite to call the police to “protect” their factories and shoot-down marchers/union members, etc. There would be no rich elite to pay the police force for favors.

i wish this could happen , but an average citizen i feel are weak today and are too busy worrying about keepin up with the jones and less intrested in anything that makes a diffrence today.
 
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YOuNg WiNo said:
i wish this could happen , but an average citizen i feel are weak today and are too busy worrying about keepin up with the jones and less intrested in anything that makes a diffrence today.
Yes, today they are weak but what I speak of cant come overnight and it cant only be applied to just the police force. The entire system must be changed.
 
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2-0-sixx your a moron..comparing the whole united states police force with the KKK is retarted..if u think u know what every fuckin cop is out there doin your a dumbass...what about the cops who come forward to help bust the crooked fucks?..i suppose they on some bullshit too...i dont care about all your riteous ideology cuz its all bullshit..u can word or phrase it 1000 diff ways,..make comparisons....generalize...at the end of the day its bullshit...your an internet activist....u wanna say fuck all cops go rite ahead...my uncle was a cop..a hard working good man for 20years....my pops is a police dispatcher..so when your mom gets raped..or your homie gets shot and you or someone else calls 911..my pops is relaying the message to try and help...fuck what u think u know..i can already admit its a gang of crooked cops...some of which deserve what any other crooked human being deserves...u need to learn to admit there really is some cops out there tryin to just do some good..not to mention earn a living and provide for there family
 
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2-0-sixx your a moron..
First off, no need for the insults comrade.

Second, if you're going to call someone a moron at least spell YOU'RE correctly, as in YOU ARE. YOUR would imply that I own a moron.

comparing the whole united states police force with the KKK is retarted..
I was not comparing the police to the KKK. Obviously, you completely missed the point I was trying to make.

if u think u know what every fuckin cop is out there doin your a dumbass...
Once again, I never claimed every cop was a bad cop. Go back and read it for yourself. I clearly stated that the police force is an oppressive organization and if you’re apart of an oppressive organization, that then makes you oppressive by affiliation, regardless if you're a good cop or not.

what about the cops who come forward to help bust the crooked fucks?..i suppose they on some bullshit too...i dont care about all your riteous ideology cuz its all bullshit..
That's your opinion and quite honestly, I don’t give a flying fuck what you think about me, however I would much rather you try to understand my words rather than insulting them when IMO you have a distorted and ignorant view about what exactly my “righteous ideology” is.

u can word or phrase it 1000 diff ways,..make comparisons....generalize...at the end of the day its bullshit...your an internet activist....
Really? So I don’t write for a newspaper, organize and participate in rallies/speeches/marches/discussions/walk-outs/speak-outs, etc.? I am not part of a Socialist Revolutionary Party in Seattle? I am not an active member? Thank you for informing me on this matter, I suppose this has all been a dream!

u wanna say fuck all cops go rite ahead...my uncle was a cop..a hard working good man for 20years....my pops is a police dispatcher..
So the truth comes out- you have family members that are in the police force and you're unwilling to admit that the police force as a whole is an oppressive organization. Yes comrade, I got it. But just remember, I NEVER said your dad was a bad cop or your uncle or whomever, I simply said they are apart of an oppressive organization.

u need to learn to admit there really is some cops out there tryin to just do some good..not to mention earn a living and provide for there family
Yes, I already have admitted this about a dozen times on this website. YES THERE ARE GOOD COPS. However, they are still apart of something that is oppressive and unjust. There is no way around that fact no matter how good an individual may be.
 
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^^OK SO GUILT BY ASSOCIATION...SO...ALL THE MUSLIMS SHOULD BE PROFILED AND OR KILLED....YOUR GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION FOR WHOEVER U KNOW AND OR ASSOCIATE WITH?..THEREFORE SHOULD BE HELD JUST AS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY DID?.....THATS BULLSHIT...AND WHAT U MEAN "THE TRUTH COMES OUT" MUTHAFUCKA THE TRUTH WAS NEVER HIDDEN...U THINK BY ME TELLIN U MY UNCLE IS A COP IS MAKIN A DIFFERENCE? IF SO YOUR AN IDIOT....LIKE I SAID IT COULD BE ANYONE..WHEN U START GENERALIZING GROUPS OF PEOPLE THATS WHERE I DISAGREE WITH YOU..WHATEVER THO..I ALREADY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOU FROM THE LAST DEBATE WHERE YOU PULLED THAT BITCH ASS COWARD SHIT..SO IM DONE WITH THIS THREAD...ARGUE WITH YOURSELF
 
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^^OK SO GUILT BY ASSOCIATION...SO...ALL THE MUSLIMS SHOULD BE PROFILED AND OR KILLED....YOUR GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION FOR WHOEVER U KNOW AND OR ASSOCIATE WITH?..THEREFORE SHOULD BE HELD JUST AS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY DID?.....THATS BULLSHIT...
No, that’s not what I’m saying at all. The difference is a Muslim is not necessarily apart of Al Queda, if he were, then yes I suppose he would be guilty by association. Just as your uncle is APART of an OPPRESSIVE organization.

AND WHAT U MEAN "THE TRUTH COMES OUT" MUTHAFUCKA THE TRUTH WAS NEVER HIDDEN...U THINK BY ME TELLIN U MY UNCLE IS A COP IS MAKIN A DIFFERENCE?
You need to take a deep breathe and calm down. I believe the police force as a whole is oppressive, I also believe anyone living in Amerika who cannot admit this is blind, ignorant, or is apart of the oppression.

WHEN U START GENERALIZING GROUPS OF PEOPLE THATS WHERE I DISAGREE WITH YOU..
I think you have a huge problem differencing between an individual and an organization. Like I've stated a long time ago, THERE ARE GOOD POLICEMEN but this does NOT change the fact that that the organization, the group as a whole that they are apart of is specifically used in ways to benefit certain privileged people. This is a known fact and perhaps if you’ve done more research on the true nature and purpose of the police force then maybe you would know this.


WHATEVER THO..I ALREADY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOU FROM THE LAST DEBATE WHERE YOU PULLED THAT BITCH ASS COWARD SHIT..SO IM DONE WITH THIS THREAD...ARGUE WITH YOURSELF
LMAO, what bitch ass coward shit? So this is more of a personal attack? It appears so since there have been far worse remarks about the police then what I have made and you haven’t said shit to them. You need to check yourself and see who is acting like a bitch. I never said a damn thing to you that was personal and you came in here calling me names and making it personal. Even after you started the name calling I refrained from that type of childish behavior.
 
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^^ WHAT BITCH ASS SHIT..CHECK THE MASTER P THREAD..WE WERE DEBATING..THAN U CAME OUT AND POSTED A GANG OF SHIT TALK..ONLY TO TURN AROUND AND PM ME TELLIN ME U DIDNT WANT ANY PROBLEMS AND U RESPECT MY OPINION BLAH BLAH..PUTTIN ON A SHOW ONLY TO RETRACT THE SHIT IN A PM..FAR AS THIS TOPIC GOES U AINT CHANGIN MY MIND AND I AINT CHANGIN YOURS
 
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LMAO, over Master P!?!? I PMed you because I thought that it was STUPID AS FUCK to argue over MASTER P, NOT because I didn’t mean what I said on the forum.

This is exactly what I stated in the PM:

I aint even trippin on you comrade, thats just my style of discussing shit. Honestly, I really dont care one way or another, I was just standing by a point I was trying to make. No hard feelings bro

Just like in the Master P thread, you're taking shit waaay to seriously and taking people's opinions personal. I got no problem with your comrade, never did, but my advice is to just relax and take things easy.