(LINK)KANYE WEST NEW VIDEO "JESUS WALKS"

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Actually I think he says:

"I'm not here to argue about facial features, or convert atheists into believers."

I thought the video was pretty fucking tight, delivery, lyrically, and graphically. Much better then the last video posted in this forum. I'm not sure of the message he was trying to send with the it, but watching the Klansman in flames is always entertaining.

I'm guessing that the white guy chopping down tree's is symbolic of the white man being a destructive force in our country. When the klansman lit the cross, only to catch him self on fire, might have represented the harm one does to himself when living that lifestyle. The black folks chained up chopping the ground was obvious. The girls jump-roping represent peacefullness with Jesus and without the white man's presence. Not sure about the drug dealer and and what was in his trunk.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
"I'm here to convert atheists into believers"
listen closer

i liked the song , it just kinda irratates me that some idiot made up a dance called the jesus walk when this song came out ! you can't do the jesus walk unless you'er walkin on warter .
 
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YOuNg WiNo said:
listen closer

i liked the song , it just kinda irratates me that some idiot made up a dance called the jesus walk when this song came out ! you can't do the jesus walk unless you'er walkin on warter .


LMAO!!!!!!
 
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Yes, tadou, I know that most rap is self-reflective. But if they are poor/foul promoters of an ideal, why even promote it? That would be like you promoting open-mindedness and hearing other people's opinions.
 
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Carlton, just because you discovered run DMC yesterday doesn't mean you should rub it in all of our faces. Of course there is rap out there that is 100 percent positive, and yes, positivity among major rappers is less often the norm, but that doesn't mean that what KW is doing in this video is some major grasp at putting out some sort of major positive message.
 
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Why? What would it prove? That I can be yet another inet flow writin gangsta on the siccness nah im cool bro. Writing rap verses is not some difficult and great undertaking fit for only kings and gods. As a matter of fact you greatly pimp the fact that you have recorded rap music when basically all it takes is vocal chords and studio time.
 
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Bla bla bla.

Writing 16 bars of rap is nothing special. It's nothing extremely deep or poetic compared to a sonnet, a rock song, a speech, or a motivational tape. It's all the fucking same. I never rapped...ever. Not when everyone around me was doin it, not when I had the opportunity, ever. Just wasn't my thing.

And tadou, you spit the same "I am the greatest" bullshit Muhammad Ali speech that every single wannabe comeup independant siccness rapper says. "Dont knock my hustle dog we doin things doin big things"...out of every 10 users on this site 7 have their own "CDs out" or their own "group to watch out for". It's fucking ridiculous.

And you are just another nameless, faceless blurb in the mix. Aside from the fact that you have a Republicanish Carlton Banks-type "dont buck the system" appeal goin on, you really are nothing special. I don't have to eat a piece of shit to tell you it stinks.

And to claim that it is this tremendous act of God that Kanye West was able to make a positive song about Christianity...and that I need to write my own rap song before I can comment is ludicrous. I could show you rap/hip-hop CDs of nothing but positivity. I could show you CDs that run the gamut of both sides. I could show you CDs where the subject is abstract nothingness.

Your idea that it is a great miracle and some great flexing of mental muscle that a top 40 rapper made a Jesus song is crap. Been done before, will happen again...
 
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If you actually read the "speech", you would see why I did not include "the rhymes". Then again you live in tunnel vision tadou world...even getting a simple message across to you is fairly difficult.
 
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You wouldnt understand my position if you walked in my shoes, took my scars, broke a frozen face with my smile, shit my shit, ate my cheerios, and watched the same yellow lights pass underneath 280. Essence and spirit forever enshrouded, perpetually disconnected, leave no room for potence, no empty chair, or burning candle for strangers, guests, friends, family. A shattered crystal, a broken window, your dissolution is appalling, distracting, even to the naked eye. So many times have I navigated a maze of signals, false positives, manipulating variables of no consequence, hoping against hope to strike dirt, sticks, air, death, life, vapor, feces, a tin soldier. Engaged in circumlocution, I wince at the midday sky. With another tired glance at a cadre of advisors I rattle off a cliched speech, an inscrutable proclamation to those of little consequence, as foreign to my audience as the pulpit from which I bombast intricacies, open silos, protect the noncommital, and hype victory against a phantom country. You would see this war to its completion. You would gaze lovingly at the covered dead, throwing a silk handkerchief to the guerillas and the federales with no second pause, all the while reconjuring the phantasm, spreading the virgin mary to the remote catholic, recounting abba fathers and the rumors of Jesus among frailty and stones. This future I cannot condone, a product I cannot endorse. With a sad wave, the white flag will fly, the troops will be withdrawn, the search will cease, incongruent pieces will no longer be piled into each other, phantasms paid no mind and dematerialized. I will die the death of a soldier surrendered, the citizen that coalesces a wiser commander.

That's the first and only poem I ever wrote...
 
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In any case, whatever his faults are, I'd say honesty gets defaulted back to as some inscrutable position from which someone can say whatever they want. The song's intent is positive, but what I'm really wondering is if Kanye or any other rapper who makes a spiritual song really takes Christianity to heart, or whatever religion they claim, or do they use it as a Sunday penance, supporting from one side while blaspheming on the other; and how long will people tolerate this, and are there even people out there who would recognize it...
 
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That's one thing I don't back the ACLU on.

They pushed to allow Buddhist kids to bring ceremonial knives to school to wear under their robes.
They supported a great fiasco of one Black kid's conversion to an African religion in order to get days off of school.

Yet

They pushed for banning the Bible in public schools.
They attack pretty much anything Christian, as it is associated with white, Western culture and ideals.