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[Mcleanhatch]

my father in law's first langueage is spanish. but guess what he learned english and used it in his everyday life to further him self and make a better life for him self, and now has a great job and better oppertunities ahead.

funny how that works huh. he works hard learns the language and prospers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats exactly how it should be!!!!!

 

[MEXCOM]

this can literally go on forever so I'll add this to that sentence. With giving out them 5 dollars the Government would be promoting one religion over another and over atheism which is unconstitutional, we wouldn't want to be UnAmerican right Mclean

 

[Mcleanhatch]

this can literally go on forever so I'll add this to that sentence. With giving out them 5 dollars the Government would be promoting one religion over another and over atheism which is unconstitutional, we wouldn't want to be UnAmerican right Mclean

but this post had to do with english not religion.

this can go on forever so lets just let it end.

although i got a new idea for a new thread.

 

[MEXCOM]

Let's analyze this

am i racist. again i dont know ask my wife, ask my soon to be born child ask my closest friends and ask the people i work with,

What does that prove? You can be racist and have friends of other creeds, its not until you come to terms with racism when you would distance yourselves from others.

but anyway. i get it now. were possed to let only people from mexico come in any time they want. give them what ever they ask for, learn spanish for them dont force them to learn THIS COUNTRY'S LANGUAGE.

Yeah. WOO! FINALLY and I mean FINALLY some one gets it! This country is meant to cater to Mexicans, Now where my Ferrarri, my mansion in Malibu, and a my herem of unspoiled white virgins?

and also why do all these other countries learn english when most never step in this country. why is there so much difficulty when it comes to this subject. its hilarious.


sweden can norway can why cant mexico??????????????????????????????????????????

Because some people want to, others don't. You have no right into criticizing those that choose not to learn English as much as I can't critize you for not learning Spanish. The US gets lots of Oil and manual labor from Mexico and I don't see you learninf Spanish.

cause there countries fucked. thats fine, you come here to get away from that fucked up place and make a better life, then learn the languege that will help you prosper. and it aint no thang.

No it ain't no thang. Especially when it's the US faul for supporting dictators to run Mexico and steal their natural resources.

my father in law's first langueage is spanish. but guess what he learned english and used it in his everyday life to further him self and make a better life for him self, and now has a great job and better oppertunities ahead.


funny how that works huh. he works hard learns the language and prospers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah how great! I love a Cinderella story! Let's all learn this Great Countries official language....wait there is none!

 

[MEXCOM]

but this post had to do with english not religion.

this can go on forever so lets just let it end.

although i got a new idea for a new thread.

yes it was about language and forcing a language unto people. that's still as unconstitutional as forcing a religion. What happened to my freedom of speech?

 

[Mcleanhatch]

yes it was about language and forcing a language unto people. that's still as unconstitutional as forcing a religion. What happened to my freedom of speech?

requiring you to learn english in no way impedes on your speaking spanish.

 

[MEXCOM]

requiring you to learn english in no way impedes on your speaking spanish.

If this language is forced on me then I don't have freedom of speech because I now speak what YOU want me to and not what I want to.

 

[Mcleanhatch]

If this language is forced on me then I don't have freedom of speech because I now speak what YOU want me to and not what I want to.

if an english only law was passed today would your speaking spanish all of a sudden stop??

i know mine wouldnt

 

[MEXCOM]

No, but then we would be breaking FEDERAL LAW and we'd be just as bad as those dirty immigrants that come here to steal all our high paying jobs!

 

[Mcleanhatch]

no, becaus that law would require the state to operate under english only law, not the people.

 

[MEXCOM]

You never mentioned that. And if that's what you meant then why would this
"would your speaking spanish all of a sudden stop??"
be at all relevant?

 

[nefar559]

Illegal Immigrants- [ee lee' gul im mi grantz], n. Poor Mexicans who are in some inexplicable way destroying America. They steal sought-after (minimum wage and below) American jobs like picking vegetables in the hot sun, or cleaning up after white people. Obviously, they must be stopped.

 

[Mcleanhatch]

Illegal Immigrants- [ee lee' gul im mi grantz], n. Poor Mexicans who are in some inexplicable way destroying America. They steal sought-after (minimum wage and below) American jobs like picking vegetables in the hot sun, or cleaning up after white people. Obviously, they must be stopped.

all i am saying is come here legally.

 

[Derek J]

dammmmm right learn english cause i aint learn spanish.

sweden and norway have manfitory laws to learn english.

when is mexico going to make that a law??????

oh and fuck the bull shit bout it being unconstitutional for them to make it so illagel imagrants kids cant go to school.

NO ITS NOT, BECUASE THERE BREAKING FEDERAL LAW JUST BY BEING HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fuck this shit. check these motha fuckas. they would check my relatives if they tried to come over from sweden.

Like my other post indicated, bilingual education may pose the best way for immigrants from China or Mexico to LEARN English and not fall behind. That would allow them to fully participate in our society, get jobs, communicate, or even get more school. Isn't that what you want, proppa?

 

[nefar559]

all i am saying is come here legally.

since when do u obey the laws?, its not cool for them to break lasws but for you its cool?

 

[Mcleanhatch]

Like my other post indicated, bilingual education may pose the best way for immigrants from China or Mexico to LEARN English and not fall behind. That would allow them to fully participate in our society, get jobs, communicate, or even get more school. Isn't that what you want, proppa?

like you said earlier i too can see maybe a little bit of bilinguel for older kids. but at the same time if these kids arent forced to learn english they will never get a good job.

but for the younger ones no way, english only.

 

[Derek J]

cause there countries fucked. thats fine, you come here to get away from that fucked up place and make a better life, then learn the languege that will help you prosper. and it aint no thang.

my father in law's first langueage is spanish. but guess what he learned english and used it in his everyday life to further him self and make a better life for him self, and now has a great job and better oppertunities ahead.


funny how that works huh. he works hard learns the language and prospers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually agree with the basic gist of your argument: It would greatly improve immigrants' chances of success if they can speak, read, and write in English. However, you can't just snap your fingers and learn English, so how to you propose immigrants (and not just from Mexico) learn English? I've already given my opinion, how should they learn, proppa?

 

[Mcleanhatch]

since when do u obey the laws?, its not cool for them to break lasws but for you its cool?

there are only 2 illegal things that i have done before and as of 2 weeks ago one of those things i now have a permit for.

the second one is a minor misdemenor in some parts of the USA,which if caught results in a $300 fine, and in other parts of the USA is completely LEGAL.

heres how bad the cops consider cockfighting in my area, when they raid the fights here it is only because somebody called them and told them to break it up, secondly when they raid all they do is drive up into the orchard with their sirens on and scare the people to where every1 runs. most of the time they dont even get out of their cars.

 

[Derek J]

but for the younger ones no way, english only.

I think the younger children can still benefit from expanding their knowledge of their native languages in addition to learning English. By building upon their general knowledge of their first language, they can better grasp the concept of language and learn more easily. However, I do agree that English should be the main concern for the younger kids. Basically, the current system could use some major retooling.

 

[proppa]

work hard learn english like my father in law. or get the fuck and stay the fuck out.

and yea. that is what i want. im not against bi lingual education. as long as its updated more. the way it is now, it makes it seems like theres a line that cant be crossed between students. and theres hella tention. there like oh your in esl.

bull shit. lets not make it so divided. cause i had lots of friends that were in esl, and i caught hella shit for that.


but i dont feel. we should CATOR to spanish speaking people. meaning i shouldnt have to learn spanish.

if i go to mexico do i force people in mexico to learn english. NO, i better learn spanish other wise ill get hella shit talked about me and get laughed at.