KILLA TAY/WORST HATERS
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Video's used to be the best promotional tool out there. I don't know what point they really serve anymore. Most of the songs in the last 10 years that have a video I stumble across on youtube or something, my reaction is usually "I didn't know there was a video for this?" Video's were really only an extension of the radio, where you got to hear songs for free that were supposed to raise your interest in buying the album the song was on. There's been great videos and terrible videos, but all that really matters is the music for the most part.
For underground rappers nowadays, videos probably serve more to show how many hits you can get to pique the interest of a label if that's what you're trying to do. If you're not trying to sign with a major label and people are watching your video that have never heard of you, it may or may not help to sell records these days. People would be more likely to dl your album if they can find it for free than rush out and buy it. It's the age we live in.
For underground rappers nowadays, videos probably serve more to show how many hits you can get to pique the interest of a label if that's what you're trying to do. If you're not trying to sign with a major label and people are watching your video that have never heard of you, it may or may not help to sell records these days. People would be more likely to dl your album if they can find it for free than rush out and buy it. It's the age we live in.
Since this is a business, and I assume a decent portion of the way you make your living comes from music, I would presume that selling more records would only be a good thing for you right? At the end of the day, like virtually every business, you provide a service. If someone goes to a place like Subway since you used that example, and their whole attitude is "we don't care if you like your sandwich, keep it moving and we're gonna keep doing us," it might deter the next dude from wanting to buy a sandwich there, or maybe just try another location. If they go to another one and get the same treatment, the chances are less of coming back. You are the only location in this situation, but there's a million other options out there. My opinion is that Subway ain't very good to begin with so if they have bad service on top of that, the sandwich better be at least worth the money.
If a video is an effort to create any interest in the album, it does you a disservice to have a bad video. If it's all about the music anyways, you might be best served to just post the song on you tube like you have in the past with Gang Star. I haven't bought one of your cd's in forever, but that song made me want to check out the album. All I really care about is the music, but if the video is bad enough, I might actually turn it off and watch something else personally. Videos don't really matter, but a really bad video doesn't do you any favors, you feel me? I haven't seen anyone tell you how great the video is yet, whatever that is worth. You don't want your name associated with an inferior product. You don't see Jordan promoting Shasta soda.
*side note, I still drink Shasta soda cause it's bomb and cheap lol
If a video is an effort to create any interest in the album, it does you a disservice to have a bad video. If it's all about the music anyways, you might be best served to just post the song on you tube like you have in the past with Gang Star. I haven't bought one of your cd's in forever, but that song made me want to check out the album. All I really care about is the music, but if the video is bad enough, I might actually turn it off and watch something else personally. Videos don't really matter, but a really bad video doesn't do you any favors, you feel me? I haven't seen anyone tell you how great the video is yet, whatever that is worth. You don't want your name associated with an inferior product. You don't see Jordan promoting Shasta soda.
*side note, I still drink Shasta soda cause it's bomb and cheap lol
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LOOK...I ALREADY HAVE THE DEAL I NEED AND I BEEN DOIN THIS A LONG TIME....IF PPL DONT LIKE THE MUSIC...I FEEL ITS MY JOB 2 MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. IF PPL DONT LIKE A VIDEO....ITS NOT REALLY MY JOB 2 CARE...CUZ IM THE ONE WHO HAS 2 WORK AND MAKE ANOTHER VIDEO AND INSTEAD OF MAKING A FUSS ABOUT IT I JUST KEEP DOING WHAT IM GOOD AT. LIKE I SAID, IF A REAL VIDEOGRAPHER (NOT A FRIEND OF 1) GOT AT ME ON A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL AND WANTED 2 DO SOME WORK I WOULDNT BE SO DEFENSIVE. WE HAVE BUDGETS 4 THAT KIND OF SHIT AND IM JUST THE ONE WHO MAKES SURE EVERYBODY GETS PAID. BUT SINCE THESE PPL ARE BETTER AT YAPPIN AND CRITICIZING THAN MAKING ANY PROFESSIONAL MOVES PERIOD....I FEEL JUSTIFIED IN HOW IM HANDLING THIS SITUATION....AND ONCE AGAIN I WILL RE-ITERATE...IF PPL DONT HAVE CREDENTIALS....I DONT NEED INSTRUCTIONS. I ACCEPT OPINIONS 4 EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE. OPINIONS. IT DOESNT MAKE ME A BAD PERSON IF I DONT CARE WHAT THEY SAY. IF ANY OF THE CRITICS WERE PPL WHO PURCHASED MY MUSIC FROM ME OR HAVE DEALT WITH ME RECENTLY I WOULD THINK WITH AN OPEN MIND...BUT HONESTLY I FEEL THESE ARE THE SAME PPL WHO WOULD GO BURN OR DOWNLOAD MY SHIT IF THEY LIKED IT ANYWAY SO IMO I DONT OWE THEM ONE OUNCE OF RESPECT.
#MOBBY
#MOBBY
BOUT 2 POST A NEW VIDEO NOW....SO WHILE THEY STILL YAPPIN ABOUT WHAT I DID LAST MONTH...IM MOVIN FORWARD AND FOCUSING ON THINGS THAT COUNT....LIKE PRODUCTIVITY, LONGEVITY, AND DOIN MY JOB. I SAID FROM THE GET GO THAT IT IS WHAT IT IS BUT PPL NOWDAYS DONT HAVE THE COMPREHENSION 2 UNDERSTAND MY MENTALITY OR WHAT IM SAYIN CUZ FROM THE LOOKS OF THINGS THEY KEEP THEIR THUMBS STUCC UP THEIR BUTTS AND THEIR MOUTHS RUNNIN.
#READING IS FUNDAMENTAL
#READING IS FUNDAMENTAL
IF MY MUSIC TAKES A DECLINE YALL LET ME KNOW AND I WILL PAY FULL ATTENTION. AND IF I GET A BUDGET FROM AN OUTSIDE SOURCE 4 A FANCY VIDEO AND I THINK ITS UP 2 SICCNESS.NET STANDARDS I WILL GLADLY POST IT HERE AND IM SURE THERE WILL STILL BE PLENTY OF NAY SAYERS REGARDLESS. AFTER 20 YEARS AS A TALENTED INDIVIDUAL IN THE RAPBIZ...IM PRETTY MUCH IMMUNE 2 THE FUCCERY. 100
Music videos don't mean shit in the music business. It's a promotional / marketing tool that has since stopped working since the late 90's early 2G's. In the real music business what counts are record sales. Not how many followers anybody has on twitter, Facebook etc. Or how many clicks you have on YouTube.
I know this one dude who was signed (He'll remain nameless for acting like a bitch.) He was dropped from the label for lack of sales. He didn't even reach gold, but had over a million clicks on YouTube & over 250K followers on Twitter.
In the real music world, it's about sales which equal money. You may look good online, but if your online clicks / hits are not matching your sales it's meaningless.
I know this one dude who was signed (He'll remain nameless for acting like a bitch.) He was dropped from the label for lack of sales. He didn't even reach gold, but had over a million clicks on YouTube & over 250K followers on Twitter.
In the real music world, it's about sales which equal money. You may look good online, but if your online clicks / hits are not matching your sales it's meaningless.
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you're right. I'm not a film student, well known rapper, or huge fan. But having said that, it was just an observation from someone who isn't a hater or a "yes" man. Take it with a grain of salt. I'm not claiming to be an authority on it and it's really not that serious man. This isn't some major life discussion, it's a rap video lol
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Naw, Breh. Yuk & I have always been cool. As a matter of fact, he posted this on his IG yesterday...
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THX GEMINI....ITS GOOD 2 HEAR SOME TRUTH FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS ACTUALLY POUNDED THIS PAVEMENT AND KNOWS THE DYNAMICS OF THIS BUSINESS AND ALSO KNOWS HOW 2 SEE THINGS WITH YOUR MIND AND NOT JUST YOUR EYES. VIDEOS HAVE A FACTOR IN RECORD SALES BUT ITS NOT THE SAME AS BEFORE AND I DONT THINK THE AVERAGE "RAP FAN" UNDERSTANDS THAT. THE GAME WAS CORRUPTED WITH VIDEOS FULL OF BIG ASSES,FANCY CARS AND MOVIE(WHICH IS NOT REAL) TYPE VISUALIZATIONS. IM A REALIST, SO PERSONALLY I PREFER 2 SEE AN ARTIST IN PERFORMANCE MODE AND EXPRESSING IMAGES OF HIS REAL LIFE AND SURROUNDINGS AND THATS WHAT IVE DONE SINCE DAY 1. THERE ARE A MILLION DIFFERENT TYPES OF ARTISTS FROM DIFFERENT BACCGROUNDS AND GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS BUT THE TRUTH IS....IF AN ARTIST CANT BE HIMSELF OR IS CONTROLLED BY ANOTHER ENTITIES IDEAS AND COMMANDS IT WILL ONLY SEPERATE HIM FROM HIS ROOTS AND WHAT HE REALLY KNOWS AND SPIRAL HIM INTO THE PART OF THIS BUSINESS WHICH HAS GIVEN US ALL HEADACHES AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER. I CHOOSE 2 BREAK IT DOWN 2 THE SIMPLEST FORM AND SO FAR, THATS THE ONLY WAY WHICH HAS ACTUALLY SHOWED ME HOW I CAN BENEFIT FROM MY ENDEAVORS AND DAILY PRODUCTION. THX 4 THE INPUT. THEY MIGHT NOT WANNA LISTEN 2 SHIT AN OG HAS 2 SAY, BUT I CAN BET THE HOUSE THAT "THEY GONE LEARN ONE DAY". IM STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS LEADING BY EXAMPLE AND I SAY THAT HUMBLY AND HONESTLY.
#S/O 2 THE OG'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#S/O 2 THE OG'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LMAO! Big Platano is my name on photobucket LOL!
I know & worked with quite a few known people than I'm given credit for.
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I have actually "pounded that pavement" in terms of working for a label here in OKC, getting concerts set up, websites, videos etc... You have your perspective and I don't see how anything I've said would be taken negatively. You have your level of wisdom from experience, as do I. You've been in the game a long time, no question. But just because I'm not patting myself on the back and talking about everything I've done doesn't mean I'm not sharing wisdom. But it seems like no matter what people say, the wisdom falls on hardened eardrums. It is what it is.
AND THAT WAS MY INITIAL ARGUMENT....IT WAS JUST "1" VIDEO OF MANY IVE BEEN BLESSED 2 ACCOMPLISH. IF PPL TAKE WHAT I SAY 2 THEM HERE PERSONALLY, THAT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE WHAT IT IS....A PERSONAL PROBLEM. IF THEY COMMIT 2 MISUNDERSTANDING ME AS AN ARTIST AND AS A GROWN ASS MAN....WE CAN TYPE TIL THE INTERNET SHUTS DOWN AND NONE OF US WILL LEARN A THING. I HAVE LEARNED FROM THIS EXPERIENCE THE LAST WEEK ON SICCNESS.NET AND IVE ALREADY MADE MY COUNTER MOVE. NOW ITS GONNA BE FUN 2 ME 2 SIT BACC AND SEE THE RESULTS FROM THE PPL WHO HAD NOTHING BUT NEGATIVITY ON THEIR MIND. I HAVENT POINTED ANYONE OUT BUT THERE ARE SOME BLATANT TAY HATERS ON THE SITE AND THERE ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. THATS WHAT I TAKE WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.
FANS HAVE TURNED INTO ARTISTS AND RAP COLUMNIST CRITICS OVER THE PAST YEARS AND ITS GONNA BE HARD 2 MAKE THEM RESORT BACC 2 BEING A FAN AGAIN WHEN THEY THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING. I ACCEPT THAT BUT I ALSO DO MY PART 2 TRY 2 WAKE THEM UP 2 THE REALITY FROM AN ARTISTS PERSPECTIVE. IVE BEEN RAPPIN SINCE I WAS IN NO NAME SHOES AS A CHILD. I KNOW IM NOT WACK. I KNOW I GO OUTSIDE EVERYDAY AND I DONT DO WACK SHIT OR IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED CUZ ITS THAT REAL. I ALSO UNDERSTAND MY LIFESTYLE AND MINDSTATE IS NOT THE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE CUZ WE ARENT ALL FROM THE SAME CLOTH OR OF THE SAME DNA. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS WHAT IT IS. IM NOT TRYIN 2 LOSE FANS, BUT IM NOT TRYIN 2 KISS NONE OF EMS ASS EITHER. I GIVE AWAY ALOT OF FREE MUSIC IN THE STREETS. THATS HOW I MAKE DEDICATED FANS AND I LEARNED THAT WORKING WITH AWOL RECORDS. ITS A FORMULA.....IF A PERSON JUDGES ME BY MY PERSONNA WHEN IM IN DEFENSE MODE AND IT MAKES THEM NOT BUY MY MUSIC AGAIN....THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT PERSONS WEAKNESS AND NOT MINE SO I KEEP IT PUSHIN. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE RESULTS GO BACC 2 MY FIRST INITIAL STATEMENT ABOUT THE VIDEO...AND THAT WAS: IT IS WHAT IT IS.
PPL CAN ACCEPT IT OR REJECT IT. THE TRUTH WILL STILL TELL ITSELF CUZ THATS HOW THE DYNAMICS OF REALITY WORK.
THX YALL....IF I OFFENDED ANYBODY...NEXT TIME SEND YOUR BITCH AND WE'LL SEE WHAT KIND OF RESULTS THAT BRINGS. 100
FANS HAVE TURNED INTO ARTISTS AND RAP COLUMNIST CRITICS OVER THE PAST YEARS AND ITS GONNA BE HARD 2 MAKE THEM RESORT BACC 2 BEING A FAN AGAIN WHEN THEY THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING. I ACCEPT THAT BUT I ALSO DO MY PART 2 TRY 2 WAKE THEM UP 2 THE REALITY FROM AN ARTISTS PERSPECTIVE. IVE BEEN RAPPIN SINCE I WAS IN NO NAME SHOES AS A CHILD. I KNOW IM NOT WACK. I KNOW I GO OUTSIDE EVERYDAY AND I DONT DO WACK SHIT OR IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED CUZ ITS THAT REAL. I ALSO UNDERSTAND MY LIFESTYLE AND MINDSTATE IS NOT THE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE CUZ WE ARENT ALL FROM THE SAME CLOTH OR OF THE SAME DNA. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS WHAT IT IS. IM NOT TRYIN 2 LOSE FANS, BUT IM NOT TRYIN 2 KISS NONE OF EMS ASS EITHER. I GIVE AWAY ALOT OF FREE MUSIC IN THE STREETS. THATS HOW I MAKE DEDICATED FANS AND I LEARNED THAT WORKING WITH AWOL RECORDS. ITS A FORMULA.....IF A PERSON JUDGES ME BY MY PERSONNA WHEN IM IN DEFENSE MODE AND IT MAKES THEM NOT BUY MY MUSIC AGAIN....THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT PERSONS WEAKNESS AND NOT MINE SO I KEEP IT PUSHIN. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE RESULTS GO BACC 2 MY FIRST INITIAL STATEMENT ABOUT THE VIDEO...AND THAT WAS: IT IS WHAT IT IS.
PPL CAN ACCEPT IT OR REJECT IT. THE TRUTH WILL STILL TELL ITSELF CUZ THATS HOW THE DYNAMICS OF REALITY WORK.
THX YALL....IF I OFFENDED ANYBODY...NEXT TIME SEND YOUR BITCH AND WE'LL SEE WHAT KIND OF RESULTS THAT BRINGS. 100
REMEMBER WHEN PPL MADE OBSERVATIONS ABOUT MUSIC BUT NEVER HAD A CHANCE 2 SPEAK 2 AN ARTIST OR A LABEL ABOUT IT....AND ALL THEY COULD DO IS DISCUSS IT WITH THEIR FRIENDS??? YEH, THAT PART. RAP WAS SO MUCH MORE FUN THEN AS A WHOLE CUZ PPLS OPINIONS ONLY MATTERED 2 THEMSELVES.
#REAL RECOGNIZE REAL AND THATS ALL I BEEN SPEAKIN...SOME OF THE SHEEPLE JUST DONT HAVE ANY COMPREHENSION SKILLS AND DONT LIKE 2 READ WHAT THEY CANT RELATE 2.
SINCERELY, KILLA TAY TRICCS!!
#REAL RECOGNIZE REAL AND THATS ALL I BEEN SPEAKIN...SOME OF THE SHEEPLE JUST DONT HAVE ANY COMPREHENSION SKILLS AND DONT LIKE 2 READ WHAT THEY CANT RELATE 2.
SINCERELY, KILLA TAY TRICCS!!
I'm seriously glad you see it as well. I'm around music a lot & often times seen as a negative / pessimist for my statements, but I'm never going to stand there & be a yes man. I'm not going to cheer anybody on in the studio or anywhere & blow smoke up their ass that it's going to happen etc.
Too many people are programmed to believe what they see on T.V. & the images online etc. I tell the the reality of what it is & find most don't like to hear it LOL!
REAL RECOGNIZE REAL.....ITS NOT A COLOR ISSUE....ITS A SPIRITUAL ONE. THATS WHY THEY HAVE CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS 4 PPL WHO ACTUALLY WANNA LEARN SOMETHING. IM FROM THE HOOD AND ACCEPT PPL 4 WHO THEY ARE AND UNDERSTAND U CAN GET SERIOUSLY INJURED TRYING 2 APPROACH THE WRONG PERSON WITH THAT BULLSHIT. WE'RE STILL HERE AND WILLING 2 GIVE SOME WISDOM SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE DOIN SOMETHING RIGHT. THX 4 CHIMIN IN.....I DONT FEEL LIKE ITS ME AGAINST THEM NO MORE CUZ SOMEBODY ACTUALLY SPIT SOME KNOWLEDGE AND NOT JUST SOME MUMBO JUMBO ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK ANOTHER GROWN MAN SHOULD BE DOING. THIS SITE NEVER CEASES 2 AMAZE ME.....I STILL LOVE IT WHAT IT IS THO.
#WEST UP
#WEST UP
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doesn't it seem pretty hypocritical that you're complaining about that on a site where people talk to their friends about rap music? This site wasn't started for the artists, it was started for the fans to talk about the music.
It's appreciated that you're here man, you and all the rappers that go out of their way to post here. But that's honestly a silly point homes.
It's appreciated that you're here man, you and all the rappers that go out of their way to post here. But that's honestly a silly point homes.
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IM NOT COMPLAINING....IVE BEEN HERE FROM THE BEGINNING...DOING THE SAME THING. TEACHIN THE MF'S THAT WANNA LEARN FROM THIS POINT OF VIEW. WE'RE NOT SIAMESE TWINS. I EXPECT DIFFERENCES. AND 4 THE LAST TIME, WE ALL GOT OPINIONS....BUT OPINIONS ARE JUST LIKE ORGASMS 2 ME....THE ONLY ONE THAT MATTERS IS MINE!!!!
#HAPPY FRIDAY
#HAPPY FRIDAY