kanye got's beats but his flows aint all that, he's not phenominal or shit like that, i mean he just got's the basics, even he said on his album everyone thought he was a joke that he was only a producer and cant rap, and then when he spit cats was like you coo, so how he gon comeback and say that shit? and remember "through the wire video" the part where he get's the roc-a-fella chain with jay dame and em there? where he like i'm the newest cat on roc-a-fella and i'm a be holding it down or some bullshit? well supposedly right after that speech he was like yo i'm a kick a freestyle, and he was so fucking terrible that he emberrased dame and jay that someone snatched the mic from him and they was like give it up for kanye, and got a cold response from the audience and that jay had to supposedly save the show, but right after that, kanye wasnt allowed to freestyle for a while or even allowed at any roc-a-fella party's, i got this news from a straight roc-a-fella nut, that's all he talks about, now i'm not saying it's true but i wouldn't doubt it, supposedly there's some footage of that night, and it just takes away from kanye's m.c.in ability, but really i have heard him freestyle on rap city and on kmel, he's nothing special, so he should really keep his mouth shut when it comes to rockin mics especially with high calliber m.c.'s such as nas and rass, i heard the album the beats is coo, it's coo that he's tryin to be positive and bring something a lil different from these wack commercial rappers, but shit like that makes me loose respect for dude