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I BELIEVE YOUR WALK IN LIFE HAS NOTHING 2 DO WITH WHAT KIND OF MUSIC YOU MAKE....I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE FAKE IT 2 MAKE IT & ACT LIKE THEY ARE SAINTS....I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD...I DON'T WANT 2 MAKE THIS A RELIGIOUS DISCUSSION I JUST FEEL PEOPLE ALWAYS JUDGE WHEN IN REALITY THEY ARE THE HYPOCRITES...I'VE BEEN A VICTIM OF THIS MYSELF....WE ALL NEED HELP...GOD MAY WANT A PERSON LIKE AGER 2 RECIEVE HIS BLESSING OFF OF RAP MUSIC BECUZ HIS ESSENCE IS FROM THE STREETS....WE ARE HUMAN..WE ALL SIN & MAKE MISTAKES...& I'VE SEEN PLENTY OF PEOPLE BACCSLIDE....I JUST DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE JUDGED BY YOUR THOUGHTS OR THE TYPE OF MUSIC YOU MAKE....I THINK YOU SHOULD BE JUDGED BY YOUR PERSONAL ACTIONS...I SUPPORT AGE 100% & ALWAYS HAVE.....ESPECIALLY WHEN HE MADE THE DECISION 2 CHANGE HIS FAITH CUZ I WENT THRU SOME THINGS OF MY OWN IN THE SAME TIME PERIOD......I THINK IT HAS 2 DO WITH AGE & DECISIONS....WE CAN GROW OUT OF THE STREET MENTALLITY BUT WE CAN'T CHANGE WHERE WE COME FROM...& I RARELY HEAR MESSAGE MUSIC ANYMORE ANYWAY...LET'S SEE WHAT AGERMAN HAS 2 OFFER....AS LONG AS HE KEEPS GOD ON HIS SIDE I'M SURE HE'LL PLAY HIS CARDS RIGHT...
Maybe so, but according to chrisitan beliefs..even THINKING about sinning...is considered sin. You cant have it both ways, period.
 
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thats real right there
dood i lost my mind for a minute because of that inner war stuff. come to think about it my life has been close to a living hell ever since i gave my life to the Lord. I can't lie though all those problems made me a much better and wiser man.

about the music though, i personally believe music is expressing your self honestly. if you read the bible its full of crazy stories that the hardest rappers would be too scared to rap about:attempting to murder your father (kind david and his son), incest (lot and his daughthers), (king davids son raped his sister) rape, homosexuality ( a city was burnt to a crisp because of it), insecurities, women claiming that they got raped when they didn't (joseph and that one chicked who tried to have sex with him but got rejected), etc. i don't believe God condemns honesty in music; infact, i believe he promotes it. He promotes our sin to help us realize how much we need his salvation.
 
Nov 25, 2003
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Maybe so, but according to chrisitan beliefs..even THINKING about sinning...is considered sin. You cant have it both ways, period.
OK...BUT WE ALL SIN...& I GREW UP IN CHURCH & SAW PLENTY OF PEOPLE BACCSLIDE....THEY WERE NOT CONDEMNED OR CRUCIFIED BECUZ THEY ARE NOT JESUS....IT'S MORE LESS ABOUT YOUR WALK OF LIFE 2 ME..EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION BUT I DON'T THINK 2 MUCH POSITIVITY WILL COME OUT OF THESE RELIGIOUS DEBATES...RELIGION IS ONE OF THE EASIEST THINGS 2 ARGUE ABOUT BUT I WOULD RATHER WAIT & SEE HOW AGE HANDLES ALL THIS SCRUTINY....
 
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dood i lost my mind for a minute because of that inner war stuff. come to think about it my life has been close to a living hell ever since i gave my life to the Lord. I can't lie though all those problems made me a much better and wiser man.

about the music though, i personally believe music is expressing your self honestly. if you read the bible its full of crazy stories that the hardest rappers would be too scared to rap about:attempting to murder your father (kind david and his son), incest (lot and his daughthers), (king davids son raped his sister) rape, homosexuality ( a city was burnt to a crisp because of it), insecurities, women claiming that they got raped when they didn't (joseph and that one chicked who tried to have sex with him but got rejected), etc. i don't believe God condemns honesty in music; infact, i believe he promotes it. He promotes our sin to help us realize how much we need his salvation.
true dat.


lets just wait to hear his new stuff and see what he's talkin about even tho i saw this recent cd from him where on the cover he got stunnas on. but either way ager is always gon be tight to me and that album he did called tried by the fire is a classic gospel album. very tight. and gospel village too.
 
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OK...BUT WE ALL SIN...& I GREW UP IN CHURCH & SAW PLENTY OF PEOPLE BACCSLIDE....THEY WERE NOT CONDEMNED OR CRUCIFIED BECUZ THEY ARE NOT JESUS....IT'S MORE LESS ABOUT YOUR WALK OF LIFE 2 ME..EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION BUT I DON'T THINK 2 MUCH POSITIVITY WILL COME OUT OF THESE RELIGIOUS DEBATES...RELIGION IS ONE OF THE EASIEST THINGS 2 ARGUE ABOUT BUT I WOULD RATHER WAIT & SEE HOW AGE HANDLES ALL THIS SCRUTINY....
You have to understand that I am only going by what is TAUGHT in Chrisitanity, nothing else. And i think the problem lies in the fact that people who SAY they are christians...but do not PRACTICE it. I mean, whats the point? Its basically being a hypocrite. Someone taking another person's life becuase of something trivial...and then going to church the next day? Thats condescending to the 329804573249857325th degree.

If youre gonna be a christian, then one needs to act appropiratley...otherwise it is just being fradulent. Its no different then someone claiming to a be a gangster...and never doing gangster shit.
 
Nov 25, 2003
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I FEEL THAT BUT A PERSON WITH GOD IN THEIR LIFE KNOWS WHAT IS EXPECTED...AS A HUMAN WE WILL ALL MAKE MISTAKES BUT MY GOD GIVES FORGIVENESS AT ANY TIME OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I WAS TAUGHT 2 BELIEVE & MANIFEST....ALOT OF PREACHERS HAVE TESTAMENTS MORE WICCED THAN ANYONE IN THE BIBLE BUT THEIR WORK 4 THE LORD IS JUDGED BY THE HIGHER POWER & THAT'S IT...I NEVER LET ANYONE MAKE MY SPIRITUAL DECISIONS 4 ME AND I GREW UP IN THE HOUSEHOLD WITH A PREACHER....I EXPERIENCED MANY DIFFERENT FAITHS & RELIGIONS BUT WAS RAISED BAPTIST....THERE ARE RELIGIONS I DON'T UNDERSTAND BECUZ THEY ASK OF SO MUCH OF THE CONGREGATION BUT 2 ME THAT CREATES A FALSE SENSE OF SPIRITUALITY.....MY TEMPLE IS MY HEART & GOD IS IN THERE BUT TRYING 2 BE A MODERN DAY SAINT IS HYPOCRITICAL 2 ME...AS LONG AS I KNOW THE WORD & UNDERSTAND THE FACTS OF SPIRITUALITY..I RESENT WHEN HUMANS TRY 2 TELL ME WHAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG...ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE NOT ORDAINED IN THE MINISTRY.....IF YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT & WRONG,I BELIEVE HOW YOU WORSHIP GOD IS NOT ANYONE ELSE'S BATTLE 2 FIGHT.....IT'S PERSONAL & PRIVATE.....I JUST SPREAD THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT I KNOW CUZ THAT'S WHAT I'M GOOD AT.....I DON'T LET OTHER PEOPLE DICTATE MY LIFESTYLE OR BELIEFS...I'M NOT TRYING 2 BE JESUS CHRIST OR LIKE ANYONE ELSE.....MY BLOODLINE MAKES ME WHO I AM....& MY SPIRITUALITY GIVES ME AN EDGE IN LIFE & MAKES ME PROUD 2 BE MYSELF...1 LOVE
 
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I FEEL THAT BUT A PERSON WITH GOD IN THEIR LIFE KNOWS WHAT IS EXPECTED...AS A HUMAN WE WILL ALL MAKE MISTAKES BUT MY GOD GIVES FORGIVENESS AT ANY TIME OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I WAS TAUGHT 2 BELIEVE & MANIFEST

I aint a christian cus i dont believe in it, plus i know i aint gonna follow the rules, so why bother?

thats like me tellin everybody im a vegetarian but i still eat steak a few times a month.........

as far as the mistakes and forgiveness,thats a cop out........if i beat my girlfriend today, then tell her im sorry tomorrow and she forgives me, then i can beat her ass the day after.thats basicly how christians think metaforicly.if you believe in christ and you know your "sinning", its not right just to ask for forgivness,you knew it was wrong to begin with, your gonna ask for forgivness then sin again, and again.its really not that hard to be "good" in the eyes of chrisianity.all these things give chistianity a black eye.if its that good, then why stray?

i know what your sayin and i understand, its just that in religion, you either are or you aint.if your a catholic and you go to the pope and tell him that you aint gonna follow all there rules, he'll shun you, you wont be a catholic in his eyes.........i dont know what you are, you said you grew up baptist, but now your spiritual? if your spiritual, then you really wouldnt be backsliding, cus your not following a doctrine. but "practicing" a religion and then straying doesnt look good.............

you can put a Caprice Classic hood ornament on a Ford Fairmont, but that doesnt make it a box chevy..........
 
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WELL I NEVER CLAIMED 2 BE ANY DENOMINATION I JUST EXPLAINED WHAT I WAS TAUGHT GROWING UP...I HAVE MY DOUBTS ABOUT SOME THINGS BUT I HAVE 2 MUCH RELIGIOUS BACCGROUND 2 EVER FIX MY MOUTH 2 SAY THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A GOD AND/OR HIGHER POWER....I AM MUCH MORE SPIRITUAL THAN RELIGIOUS & I USUALLY DON'T EXPRESS MY VIEWS BECUZ USUALLY I END UP WITH SOME HYPOCRITE CALLING ME A HYPOCRITE....IT'S A PERSONAL CHOICE 4 EVERYBODY & NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS THERE WILL ALWAYS BE DIFFERENT STROKES 4 DIFFERENT FOLKS...ME REPRESENTING SPIRITUALITY TAKES RELIGION OUT OF THE EQUATION BECUZ IN MY YEARS ON EARTH I AM YET 2 SEE A PERFECT RELIGION....THAT'S WHY I DID THE ALBUM THUG RELIGION....MY RELIGION IS MY CHOICE....MY SPIRITUALITY IS MY ESSENCE..& MY MUSIC IS WHAT I MAKE IT.....I KNOW IF I ATTEMPTED 2 MAKE TRUE GOSPEL MUSIC I WOULD BE LOOKED DOWN ON 4 MY CONTENT SO INSTEAD I ACCEPT MY CHANGE IN LIFE 4 WHAT IT IS...AT 26 I WENT & GOT SAVED AGAIN & DECLARED MY LIFE ON THE GOOD SIDE....WHICH MEANS I STOPPED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I KNEW WERE CONSIDERED EVIL 2 GODS PEOPLE....I STILL BELIEVE IN MYSELF & EVEN THOUGH I KNEW THE BIBLE AS A CHILD AS AN ADULT I DISAGREE WITH A LOT OF THE LAWS THAT WERE MADE 2000 YEARS AGO....I'M JUST A REALIST & IT MAY SOUND FUNNY BUT AT THE MOMENT MY RELIGION IS GETTIN MONEY...100
 
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your like everybody else who grew up in a "religious" background, now you cant bring your self to say "i dont believe".its hard to change something inbetted in your head since you was a kid.i was the same way till recently.
the same with the bible and how you as a man will dissagree with. i respect that.but i respect that because you dont claim a denomination.from what i read, you just believe in a higher power.........you obviously dont hold the bible to be the word of god and the "law",so you goin against it wouldnt make you a hypacrite........

the difference between your sitchy and Ager Mans sitchy is he was an actual minister of a denomination preaching the lords word and trying to change lives for the better.now ,it seems, hes again talkin about stuff that he would urge the youth against when he was deep into his ministry........
 
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All I have 2 say is - The Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance but the Lord looks at the heart 1Samuel 16:7 A man can do everything he is supposed 2 do as a christian and still be wicked as satan himself and vice versa. Don't be so quick 2 judge- because as quiet kept a lot of u on here judging folks is either rolling with the wicked or really in search of answers. Search within your Heart and check your motives at the door. Itz real easy 2 criticize another's lifestyle focus on urs unless itz ur business. I hope Agerman start off his verse sayin Where my Believers at- lol.
 
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