just copped a fantom g6
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the quantity is limited and the ones that are on there are just weak. you have to really tweak them. after you make about 10 tracks you notice youre going to have to recycle the same sounds over and over. its not that workstations have great drums, these just SUCK flat out in comparison and are extremely subpar coming from a 2500 dollar workstation. since you really wanna know.
and when your reason refill library consists of roughly 500 refills you have drums you cant find anywhere else. how is it strange to sample from reason? i dont understand? i didnt even say fruity loops where all the sounds are in wav format, therefore eliminating the need to sample them in the first place. unless you have a program that extracts wave files from reason, then my friend why dont you hook me up? please? it will save me the hassle of sampling them myself. or do you not understand how reason works?
and when your reason refill library consists of roughly 500 refills you have drums you cant find anywhere else. how is it strange to sample from reason? i dont understand? i didnt even say fruity loops where all the sounds are in wav format, therefore eliminating the need to sample them in the first place. unless you have a program that extracts wave files from reason, then my friend why dont you hook me up? please? it will save me the hassle of sampling them myself. or do you not understand how reason works?
generic ass refills? im not talking about the reason factory soundbank refill. most of them were made from akai, roland, emu, etc.... sample cds, theyre far from garbage. my vinyl collection is not shabby at all either, numbering in the 2500 to 3000 range. why dont you worry about how you make your shit instead of coming into a thread to talk shit about something you know nothing about. on a side note i checked out your page you got some nice beats. keep it up!
I was statin that sence i have reason/ fl studio i will use the programs to pull in sampled drums. Im not using the fantom gs on board sequencer for the time being. Im using it as a sound module along with the motif. So that being said Im good the built it drums do suck flat out tho. Theres like 2 or 3 usable patches with out tweaking em......
they dont compare to the fantom x's. roland dropped the ball here. the problem is the g6 was a rushed product. it should have been dropped 6 months later. they rushed it out to have their flagship out before they got the os right. its still buggy but i can work with a broken lawn chair and rusty screwdriver to make hot beats so im straight. the fantoms strongest point is its sequencer, you should try it out lil wattage. im pretty sure you cant sequence outboard gear with reason. maybe im wrong but im pretty sure youre gonna be disappointed if you try that route. you can sequence reason with other gear but not the other way around. if reason could sequence outboard gear and support vst without rewire it would be pretty much untouchable.
the fantom sequencer is probably the best one ive seen on a workstation hands down, and is closest to reasons ease of use by far of any other keyboard. you should give it a shot before you give up on it. i wouldnt blame you if you went and got a motif rack though. its all personal preference. if you dont like the sounds or the sequencer then you wasted 2500 bucks that could have been better spent elsewhere.
i havent used reason in a while so i can get the ins and outs of the fantom down, then i can use them both together since my fantom is a usb audio/midi interface as well, with phantom mic power and all.
the fantom sequencer is probably the best one ive seen on a workstation hands down, and is closest to reasons ease of use by far of any other keyboard. you should give it a shot before you give up on it. i wouldnt blame you if you went and got a motif rack though. its all personal preference. if you dont like the sounds or the sequencer then you wasted 2500 bucks that could have been better spent elsewhere.
i havent used reason in a while so i can get the ins and outs of the fantom down, then i can use them both together since my fantom is a usb audio/midi interface as well, with phantom mic power and all.
youre ok, its just too bad the fantom series doesnt have the following the motif does. roland needs to throw its customers a bone and give us a real update on the os and some original patches. to tout "the most advanced workstation sound engine" and not provide the patches to prove it is a damn shame. some of us musicians dont have time to learn synthesis and the programming that comes along with it. korg and yamaha provide plenty of usable presets right out of the box. for 2500 you shouldnt be expected to find gems on your own. they should be provided out of the box.
see and thats exactly what im saying i dont really know the synthesis and programming of the patches. and thats really the reason I like the motif is becuase strait out the box I have usable sounds and I could get strait to business. Ive had the fantom g for a while now and really liked the sound better before i had time to fiddle with it. Now I listed and dont think the same. You said the g was rushed, and you could tell just by the sound of the board. I think with some firmware updates this thing will be a beast with some brand new patches and such. "phil" lets hear somthing you created with the fantom g do you have a myspace or sumthin?
you are gonna have some problems sequencing outboard gear with reason cuz that software doesn't have that capability. that whole program is designed to be an in the box solution soft synth or to be slaved to a DAW like protools. that G is a bad ass board though if i had the money for a workstation its probably the best bank for your buck deal since its basically rolands answer to the korg oysis just a couple thousand cheaper
reasons sequencer is user friendly and easy to use (at least versian 3 and below is) but reason is best used slaved into something more powerful
reasons sequencer is user friendly and easy to use (at least versian 3 and below is) but reason is best used slaved into something more powerful
with reason that phantom would be nothing but a 2500 dollar midi keyboard.what you could do is sample shit from reason and put shit together with the Gs sequencer with don't make a whole lot of sense to me since the G has a much better fatter sound than youwhat your gonna get with reason without alot of tweaking and using up alot of CPU load on your computer to make some nice reason sounds with a combinator.
I'd just concentrate on that G6 and learn the ins and outs of it, roland designed the thing to practically do anything. last time i was at guitar center a dude broke it down to me that it is the best keyboard workstation you can buy right now at a price that wont kill you. I'm sure they probably designed the sequencer to be alot like the MV8800 with I would like a whole lot so your basically getting an MV without the pads in a different platform with more sounds at around the same price if you get the 60 key
I'd just concentrate on that G6 and learn the ins and outs of it, roland designed the thing to practically do anything. last time i was at guitar center a dude broke it down to me that it is the best keyboard workstation you can buy right now at a price that wont kill you. I'm sure they probably designed the sequencer to be alot like the MV8800 with I would like a whole lot so your basically getting an MV without the pads in a different platform with more sounds at around the same price if you get the 60 key
Phil-- I got a beat 4 you 2 hear sequenced in the fantom with the motif as a sound module......
www.myspace.com/ghuttertrakkproductions
its the first beat on my playlist tell me what you think......
I just uploaded it so give it a second to process..... its called 07162008
www.myspace.com/ghuttertrakkproductions
its the first beat on my playlist tell me what you think......
I just uploaded it so give it a second to process..... its called 07162008