Just caught the Bradley/Pacquiao replay, what fight were you mf's watching???????

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MOREBASS said:
Jabs that land on the gloves are hardly effective. Wondering how all of you guys who felt like Bradley won can explain the punch stats.

CompuBox isn't the end all be all, by any means, but look at the discrepancy in the punch stats! Not even close.
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Man...forget them punch stats and use your own eyes. Manny barley utilized his own jab, he stared looking for his money punch the stright left, he took one round off completely, and in others he waited until 2min had pasted to connect with his first punch. It was the compu box clickers who were inept.

Its simple you don't land more power shots (Manny's left) than a person constently jabbing and throwing hooks to the body. Didn't you see all the body shots Bradley invested in. Truth to tell that may have been what slowed Manny down during the 8th-12th round when for some unexplained reason stop being active. That or bad training. Manny landing 100 MORE SHOTS I thought that was crazy the first time I was it and I it still don't believe it after the relplay.
 
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MOREBASS said:
Jabs that land on the gloves are hardly effective. Wondering how all of you guys who felt like Bradley won can explain the punch stats.

CompuBox isn't the end all be all, by any means, but look at the discrepancy in the punch stats! Not even close.
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Man...forget them punch stats and use your own eyes. Manny barley utilized his own jab, he started looking for his money punch the straight left, he took one round off completely, and in others he waited until 2min had pasted to connect with his first punch. It was the compu box clickers who were inept.

Its simple, you don't land more power shots (Manny's left) than a person constently jabbing and throwing hooks to the body. Didn't you see all the body shots Bradley invested in? Truth to tell that may have been what slowed Manny down during the 8th-12th round when for some unexplained reason he stop being active. That or bad training. Manny landing 100 MORE SHOTS I thought that was crazy the first time I saw it and I it still don't believe it after the relplay.
 
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That's the samething I was saying in regards to Manny getting tired or slowing down. I thought it could have been from the body shots that Bradley was landing or a combination of both (Manny missing so many of his punches + the body shots landed from Bradley), that could've tired Manny out too!

Noticed how they didn't replay any of Bradley's punches? None!!
 
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The reason for the non replay is because Bradley's punches were not heavy shots...but they scored and usually you don't see body shots replayed only head shots. Manny's defence aint that good...it's just the fact that Bradley is such a pouder puff hitter is all. That's why Manny looked so clean after the fight. If you look at the rythm of Bradley's jab the first 1-3 rounds and when he regained it 8-12th round he controlled the pace of the fight. Look how he adjusted to Manny when Manny had the upperhand...Bradley smothered Pacquiao's punches, held, slipped and dodged. Manny took rounds 4-7. I had it 116-112 for Bradley. One round questionable.
 
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HERESY said:
These are just some of the posts of yours that came right after the fight:











Thats just a couple that I decided to post up and they're all from you bigface. Then from there you start saying the fight was a draw and that you never said you said Bradley won, lol.

You went from Pac getting robbed, to Bradley outboxing pac to the fight being a draw back to Pac losing back to being a draw! Which is it bitchface?

Go ahead and reply with your usual homosexual shit because that's all you can do. You'll call me a Manny dick rider even though I've said Bradley should keep the belt, Pac needs to retire, Pac should have taken the test, Pac can't beat Floyd and that Top Rank should be investigated.
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These are just some of the posts of yours that came right after the fight: That was a nice try HERESY but the problem with your whole wanna be exposing post is not one of those post stated that I scored the fight for in anyway other then a DRAW.

[Bob Arum set this shit up. I feel sorry for Manny. Top Rank is dirty] = Top Rank made Manny turn down $40 million to fight for $26 million in a high risk low reward fight that he lose.

[The HBO team was hating on Bradley all fight. Good shit Bradley. Manny got tired after 9 rounds and lose the rest of the rounds. Its hard for Manny to fight a boxer that is not weight drained and this fight proved it. Bigface called it.. lol] = this statement doesn’t prove your point at all, I’m just talking about the HBO team and Manny getting tired.

[It's not fault that Bradley won the fight. Manny did nothing for the first two minutes of every round, then he throws a flurry at the end and HBO acted like he was running away with the fight. Bradley win the fight to me. He out worked Manny.] = pointing out HBO's bad calling again and making the Manny fans cry a river for the lose

^^^But guess what Heresy everything you showed me posting that I thought Bradley won was an HOUR AFTER the fight happened. Now why didn't you post what I said after I watched the fight over the next day.

[So Manny didn't get tired in the 9th round?? Bradley didn't do his best work in close quarters?? Bradley didn't beat up Manny body? If Manny didn't have punching power Bradley would've made the fight even rougher on Manny, so yes Manny punching power was the X factor. Bradley stood toe to toe with Manny and brought the fight to him late in the fight.
I had the fight 6-6 a draw. Bradley won rounds 1-2 and rounds 9-12. Manny got tired and let the fight slip away..]

Funny thing is that this post is to you from me on 6/10/12 after I re-watched the fight.. And my view of the fight has not changed since then..

Now again please post proof of me changing my score card after 6/10/12 when I posted my score of the fight It should be easy for you it's 10 days worth of post.. Again you FAIL my friend.. And the Sideline co-signers FAILED with you..
 
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bigface said:
These are just some of the posts of yours that came right after the fight: That was a nice try HERESY but the problem with your whole wanna be exposing post is not one of those post stated that I scored the fight for in anyway other then a DRAW.
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You went from saying/implying that he (Manny) was robbed, to Bradley winning, to the fight being a draw. You've stated THREE different things, man. It's all there in black and white for everyone to see. You can try to use semantics all you want but it's there, man.

[Bob Arum set this shit up. I feel sorry for Manny. Top Rank is dirty] = Top Rank made Manny turn down $40 million to fight for $26 million in a high risk low reward fight that he lose.
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Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure! You would post that kind of statement directly after you watched the fight? That was what you meant by the FIRST post after the fight? LMAO! You can fool tony and trips, but not me, pal.


[The HBO team was hating on Bradley all fight. Good shit Bradley. Manny got tired after 9 rounds and lose the rest of the rounds. Its hard for Manny to fight a boxer that is not weight drained and this fight proved it. Bigface called it.. lol] = this statement doesn’t prove your point at all, I’m just talking about the HBO team and Manny getting tired.
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It does prove my point. It was the first step in your switcharoo.

[It's not fault that Bradley won the fight. Manny did nothing for the first two minutes of every round, then he throws a flurry at the end and HBO acted like he was running away with the fight. Bradley win the fight to me. He out worked Manny.] = pointing out HBO's bad calling again and making the Manny fans cry a river for the lose
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Bradley won the fight to you? So how then can it be a draw? How the FUCK can you score it a draw if he won the fight to you? LMAO!!!

^^^But guess what Heresy everything you showed me posting that I thought Bradley won was an HOUR AFTER the fight happened. Now why didn't you post what I said after I watched the fight over the next day.
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Actually, if I'm not mistaken, some of that was after the first hour. However, the point is, you said the shit. You went from Pac being robbed, to Bradley winning, to the fight being a draw.

[So Manny didn't get tired in the 9th round?? Bradley didn't do his best work in close quarters?? Bradley didn't beat up Manny body? If Manny didn't have punching power Bradley would've made the fight even rougher on Manny, so yes Manny punching power was the X factor. Bradley stood toe to toe with Manny and brought the fight to him late in the fight.
I had the fight 6-6 a draw. Bradley won rounds 1-2 and rounds 9-12. Manny got tired and let the fight slip away..]
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And in previous posts you gave the fight to Bradley. So which is it? Did Bradley win, did Pac get robbed, was it a draw or did aliens from Zebes show us a fight from a parallel fuckin' universe? Pick one and stick to it.

Funny thing is that this post is to you from me on 6/10/12 after I re-watched the fight.. And my view of the fight has not changed since then..
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WTF IS YOUR VIEW OF THE FIGHT DICKFACE? You've said so many fuckin things now no one knows!

Now again please post proof of me changing my score card after 6/10/12 when I posted my score of the fight It should be easy for you it's 10 days worth of post.. Again you FAIL my friend.. And the Sideline co-signers FAILED with you..
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So now you admit that you changed it after you saw the fight? LMAO!
 
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Man...forget them punch stats and use your own eyes. Manny barley utilized his own jab, he started looking for his money punch the straight left, he took one round off completely, and in others he waited until 2min had pasted to connect with his first punch. It was the compu box clickers who were inept.
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Forget the punch stats?

I'm not sure if there is a more subjective number to look at besides the punch stats...besides, Manny has never had a great jab. He doesn't set his punches up using a jab.

He was landing straight lefts AT WILL.

Although I agree that he took the first minute or so of some rounds off, the point is that Bradley didn't do anything to capitalize on that, in my opinion. He was throwing, but not a lot was landing. Bradley landed some nice body shots here and there, and a few head shots after exchanges, but the only round where he even looked remotely in control was in the 10th, and even that was a close round.

LOL @ Compubox clickers being inept. Their sole purpose is to count the number of punches thrown and landed, nothing else. I don't think it's possible to be 100% accurate, but it's not like they were getting up to buy hot dogs during the fight. The numbers were approximate, and they were a landslide in Manny's favor. That was clear to me without looking at CompuBox stats.

Its simple, you don't land more power shots (Manny's left) than a person constently jabbing and throwing hooks to the body. Didn't you see all the body shots Bradley invested in? Truth to tell that may have been what slowed Manny down during the 8th-12th round when for some unexplained reason he stop being active. That or bad training. Manny landing 100 MORE SHOTS I thought that was crazy the first time I saw it and I it still don't believe it after the relplay.
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First of all, jabs aren't power shots.

Sure, Bradley landed some nice body shots here and there...I saw that, and I think that might've been why Pacquiao seemed to slow down towards the end of the fight...but during almost every exchange, Bradley was getting bested.
 
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MOREBASS said:
Forget the punch stats?

I'm not sure if there is a more subjective number to look at besides the punch stats...besides, Manny has never had a great jab. He doesn't set his punches up using a jab.

He was landing straight lefts AT WILL.

Although I agree that he took the first minute or so of some rounds off, the point is that Bradley didn't do anything to capitalize on that, in my opinion. He was throwing, but not a lot was landing. Bradley landed some nice body shots here and there, and a few head shots after exchanges, but the only round where he even looked remotely in control was in the 10th, and even that was a close round.

LOL @ Compubox clickers being inept. Their sole purpose is to count the number of punches thrown and landed, nothing else. I don't think it's possible to be 100% accurate, but it's not like they were getting up to buy hot dogs during the fight. The numbers were approximate, and they were a landslide in Manny's favor. That was clear to me without looking at CompuBox stats.



First of all, jabs aren't power shots.

Sure, Bradley landed some nice body shots here and there...I saw that, and I think that might've been why Pacquiao seemed to slow down towards the end of the fight...but during almost every exchange, Bradley was getting bested.
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The bold is true and it is what I've said several times now. Bradley didn't capitalize on ANYTHING. He did not TAKE the belt or dominate Pac. It was GIVEN to him. A person can argue that JMM beat pac on more than one occassion, so you guys claiming Pac lost the fight are going to say Bradleys performance was on par with JMM's? If so LOL!

And LMAO@ "you need to turn off the volume and then watch the fight and then you'll see Bradley won." That has to be one of the stupidist things ever posted as it relates to boxing. One does not need to turn off the volume to score the fight.

ETA: and what was Bradley's excuse for breathing out of his mouth again?
 
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Just browsed through the thread but from the looks of it, Tony and bigtits, 2 notable Manny haters scored the fight for Bradley. You don't say. Nothing like a wasted opportunity to gain some credibility.

And Lol @ whoever said they weren't counting Bradley's shots to the arms n shit. You serious? What the fuck am I doing IT work at a hospital for if I can be boxing, sockin mutha fuckas in their ankles and hittin' paydirt.

Some of you are straight retarded.
 
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HERESY said:
http://espn.go.com/new-york/story/_...wins-wbo-review-wants-timothy-bradley-rematch

WBO said Pac won the fight.
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with 5 judges too, all had pac winning. I like the break down of rounds too.

all the wbo can do is authorize a rematch though, but more clear evidence pac won, as if we needed it. its funny how hard the remaining 5% of idiots are trying to prove bradley won, as if there is anyway they can show bradley won 7 rounds. oh compubox numbers aren't 100% accurate?! they must be new to the sport or something.
 
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"You've got to put the ball in the basket and Manny didn't put the ball in the basket enough. This isn't American Idol. If I judge for the people, I shouldn't be a judge. I went in with a clear mind and judged each round."

"I don't look at the punch stats but I saw Manny miss a lot of punches and Bradley hit Manny and win a lot of the exchanges. I'm comfortable with my performance. I thought Bradley gave Pacquiao a boxing lesson."

"I thought Bradley gave Pacquiao a boxing lesson," Duane Ford said, according to the newspaper. "I thought a lot of the rounds were close. Pacquiao missed a lot of punches and I thought he was throwing wildly."

sad shit, pac tard nut huggers are trying to turn boxing into a american idol contest.
 
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