On July 4, 1930, the long awaited "Saviour" of the Black man and woman, Master W. Fard Muhammad, appeared in this city (Detroit). He announced and preached that God is One (not 3 parts), and it is now time for Blacks to return to the religion of their ancestors, Islam. News spread all over the city of Detroit of the preachings of this great man from the East. Elijah Poole's wife first learned of the Temple of Islam and wanted to attend to see what the commotion was all about, but instead, her husband advised her that he would go and see for himself.
July 4, 1930
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There are many groups in America who claim to represent Islaam and call their adherents Muslims. Any serious student of Islaam has a duty to investigate and find the true Islaam. The only two authentic sources which bind every Muslim are :
(1) The Qur'ân
(2) Sound Hadith (Sahih).
Any teachings under the label of "Islaam" which contradict or at variance with the direct beliefs and practices of Islaam from the Qur'ân and sound Hadith should be rejected and such a religion should be considered a pseudo-Islaamic cult. In America there are many pseudo-Islaamic cults , Farrakhanism being one of them. An honest attitude on the part of such cults is not to call themselves Muslims and their religion Islaam, such an example of honesty is Bahaism which is an offshoot of Islaam but Bahais do not call themselves Muslims nor their religion Islaam . Infact Bahaism is not Islaam just as Farrakhanism is not Islaam.
THE FOLLOWING ARE SOME OF THE KEY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ISLAAM AND FARRAKHANISM
Islaam adheres to the belief of One Unique Allaah ,God, never appeared in any physical form, hence no physical representation is possible. Farrakhanism believes that God appeared in the person of W. Fard Muhammed, July 1930; the Masiah of the Christians and the 'Mahdi' of the Muslims.
Islaam adheres that Mohammed (peace be upon him) is the last prophet of Islaam, no messenger or prophet will come after Mohammed (peace be upon him). Farrakhanism believes that Elijah Mohamed was the messenger of God (are there any more messengers or prophets to come?? not clear).
Islaam believes that life on earth as we know it will come to an end; it will be followed by the hereafter which includes physical resurrection of the entire humankind, judgement and the life of paradise or hell. Farrakhanism on the other hand believes that the resurrection of the dead , not a physical one, but in mental resurrection, no already physically dead person will be in hereafter, that is a slavery belief taught to slaves to keep them under control.
Regarding the Qur'ân it was revealed to Mohammed (peace be upon him) between 610 and 632 , is the last revelation of Allaah to mankind. However Farrakhanism is contradictory in this topic , it believes in the Qur'ân but at the same time it believes that they are the writers of the Bible and Qur'ân and that they make such history once every 24000 years by twenty four of their scientists (a weird conspiracy theory of sorts)
The Shahadah in Islaam is the declaration that Allaah the unseen, He is the Creator, The Sustainer, Mankind is accountable to Him Alone, and prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him). Farrakhanism believes that the Shahadah is a cover to deceive gullible Muslims, and that the prophet Mohammed was not a role model for our times , instead believe that Elijah Mohamed is the model and law giver for our times . (Astaghfarullaah)
Islaam believes in Praying five prayers a day which includes qiyam (standing), Rukoo' (bowing), Sajdah prostration), Jalsa (sitting on the floor, and recitations. Farrakhanism doesn't believe in praying five times a day , and when done it has no Rukoo' (bowing) and no Sajdah (prostration). Friday prayer is a major congressional prayer , not for salat (prayer) but to say Duaa' (to wish for something) and to listen to the minister.
Islaam believes that Zakat is required on accumulated wealth after a possession for one year above certain limits given to the needy. In Farrakhanism it is a tax as a 'poor due' on income (who benefits?)
Islaam believes that Muslims should fast in the month of Ramadan, ninth month of the Islaamic calendar. However Farrakhanism believes that fasting is only required during December and fasting in Ramadan is optional.
Islaam requires Hajj once in a lifetime , providing if conditions of finances, health and safety of travel are met. However in Farrakhanism it is not a requirement.
In Islaam the lawful and unlawful is determined by Allaah in the Qur'ân or by the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) recorded in sound authentic Ahaadeeth. In Farrakhanism the lawful and unlawful are determined by W. D Fard and Elijah Mohammed. The Qur'ân and the prophet in Farrakhanism have no relevance or authority with regards of lawful and unlawful.
Reese, hit up a real masjid and learn the real Islam. If you need help finding one just let me know.
(1) The Qur'ân
(2) Sound Hadith (Sahih).
Any teachings under the label of "Islaam" which contradict or at variance with the direct beliefs and practices of Islaam from the Qur'ân and sound Hadith should be rejected and such a religion should be considered a pseudo-Islaamic cult. In America there are many pseudo-Islaamic cults , Farrakhanism being one of them. An honest attitude on the part of such cults is not to call themselves Muslims and their religion Islaam, such an example of honesty is Bahaism which is an offshoot of Islaam but Bahais do not call themselves Muslims nor their religion Islaam . Infact Bahaism is not Islaam just as Farrakhanism is not Islaam.
THE FOLLOWING ARE SOME OF THE KEY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ISLAAM AND FARRAKHANISM
Islaam adheres to the belief of One Unique Allaah ,God, never appeared in any physical form, hence no physical representation is possible. Farrakhanism believes that God appeared in the person of W. Fard Muhammed, July 1930; the Masiah of the Christians and the 'Mahdi' of the Muslims.
Islaam adheres that Mohammed (peace be upon him) is the last prophet of Islaam, no messenger or prophet will come after Mohammed (peace be upon him). Farrakhanism believes that Elijah Mohamed was the messenger of God (are there any more messengers or prophets to come?? not clear).
Islaam believes that life on earth as we know it will come to an end; it will be followed by the hereafter which includes physical resurrection of the entire humankind, judgement and the life of paradise or hell. Farrakhanism on the other hand believes that the resurrection of the dead , not a physical one, but in mental resurrection, no already physically dead person will be in hereafter, that is a slavery belief taught to slaves to keep them under control.
Regarding the Qur'ân it was revealed to Mohammed (peace be upon him) between 610 and 632 , is the last revelation of Allaah to mankind. However Farrakhanism is contradictory in this topic , it believes in the Qur'ân but at the same time it believes that they are the writers of the Bible and Qur'ân and that they make such history once every 24000 years by twenty four of their scientists (a weird conspiracy theory of sorts)
The Shahadah in Islaam is the declaration that Allaah the unseen, He is the Creator, The Sustainer, Mankind is accountable to Him Alone, and prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him). Farrakhanism believes that the Shahadah is a cover to deceive gullible Muslims, and that the prophet Mohammed was not a role model for our times , instead believe that Elijah Mohamed is the model and law giver for our times . (Astaghfarullaah)
Islaam believes in Praying five prayers a day which includes qiyam (standing), Rukoo' (bowing), Sajdah prostration), Jalsa (sitting on the floor, and recitations. Farrakhanism doesn't believe in praying five times a day , and when done it has no Rukoo' (bowing) and no Sajdah (prostration). Friday prayer is a major congressional prayer , not for salat (prayer) but to say Duaa' (to wish for something) and to listen to the minister.
Islaam believes that Zakat is required on accumulated wealth after a possession for one year above certain limits given to the needy. In Farrakhanism it is a tax as a 'poor due' on income (who benefits?)
Islaam believes that Muslims should fast in the month of Ramadan, ninth month of the Islaamic calendar. However Farrakhanism believes that fasting is only required during December and fasting in Ramadan is optional.
Islaam requires Hajj once in a lifetime , providing if conditions of finances, health and safety of travel are met. However in Farrakhanism it is not a requirement.
In Islaam the lawful and unlawful is determined by Allaah in the Qur'ân or by the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) recorded in sound authentic Ahaadeeth. In Farrakhanism the lawful and unlawful are determined by W. D Fard and Elijah Mohammed. The Qur'ân and the prophet in Farrakhanism have no relevance or authority with regards of lawful and unlawful.
Reese, hit up a real masjid and learn the real Islam. If you need help finding one just let me know.
Shoowilla- Comedy. Nice cut and paste job. Maybe you should look into what you are saying and even more what you are believing in. There is no such thing as Farrakhanism, or whatever you said. I tell you what. We can go back and forth on the Net about this day, cause you will continue to produce propaganda from your open enemies on what THEY say about the NOI. You claimin this Arab/real muslim stance. The same "real" muslims that sell pork and drank in the so-called ghetto communities? Knowing that if they did that in they own country they would be put to death? The Arab didnt bring the Black Man in America Islam. We can prove this without any doubt. If you really are interested, go to FINALCALL.COM and order a lecture on ISLAM by our Min. Farrakhan, take notes. Cause all that you cut and pasted has been defeated. Better yet, you can PM me and let me know what city you are in, and I can direct you to the Nation there. this is when you will have an oppurtunity to bring all this to the table. WE WELCOME ANY CHALLENGE AGAINST THE TEACHINGS, because in your challenge that means you will have to study, and you might find something out that you didnt see be for. I have a feeling that you wont, cause you in a comfort zone. We go out there and get our people Sir. I've been to the masjid, all I can say is like my homie Critic says, "You betta google who you ****** with" LOL
Salaam Sir. Allah is the BEST knower, keep that in my mind when you get on here speaking on the Nation.
Bro. Maurice X
Mosque #73
Sacramento, CA
Oh, and all those names you mentioned. Hypocrites.
Salaam Sir. Allah is the BEST knower, keep that in my mind when you get on here speaking on the Nation.
Bro. Maurice X
Mosque #73
Sacramento, CA
Oh, and all those names you mentioned. Hypocrites.
Call your cult whatever you want to call it but it sure aint no ISLAM.
"THEY"? Ive heard the NOI members speak about their beliefs before, and it has nothing to do with islam. NOI is a racist cult, plain and simple.
No one said anything about arabs, islam is before ethnicity and nationality.
Now your just regurgitating NOI propaganda. Yes there are muslims who do sell alcohol and pork, but when speaking about a religion you dont look at the followers, you look at the doctrine. And arabs make up 15-18% of the muslim population.
?
Farakhan fooling yall for money.
Im staying out in Newark NJ, if your on this black pride tip, come see the brothers out here. REAL MUSLIMS, many of them former NOI members, who learned the truth. Give these brothers a call, or have your head NOI member or whoever you feel comfortable with call these brothers and talk about ISLAM
Masjid Ar-Rahmah
57 Martin Luther King Jr Blvd, Newark
(973) 621-8833
its Allah for me, but isn't it wallace fard for you?
and in the beginning you said, One GOD "not 3 parts", so is it 2 parts?
"THEY"? Ive heard the NOI members speak about their beliefs before, and it has nothing to do with islam. NOI is a racist cult, plain and simple.
No one said anything about arabs, islam is before ethnicity and nationality.
Now your just regurgitating NOI propaganda. Yes there are muslims who do sell alcohol and pork, but when speaking about a religion you dont look at the followers, you look at the doctrine. And arabs make up 15-18% of the muslim population.
?
Farakhan fooling yall for money.
Im staying out in Newark NJ, if your on this black pride tip, come see the brothers out here. REAL MUSLIMS, many of them former NOI members, who learned the truth. Give these brothers a call, or have your head NOI member or whoever you feel comfortable with call these brothers and talk about ISLAM
Masjid Ar-Rahmah
57 Martin Luther King Jr Blvd, Newark
(973) 621-8833
its Allah for me, but isn't it wallace fard for you?
and in the beginning you said, One GOD "not 3 parts", so is it 2 parts?
Synical DJ - I had stated in my "rebuttal" what needs to be done to answer his/her questions. Either accept it or reject it. No pressure. There is no compulsion is religion.
Shoowilla- I knew that when I posted that you would be "patrolling" the boards so that you could respond just as you did. Take what I said, put quotes, and then give some shoowillisms after each one. Typical and very predictable. As not to argue over Islam on the Siccness, I suggested that you PM me. You chose not to. I understand. You are so hell bent on a mission to prove the NOI to be false, and not real, that you dont even have time to slow down, and seeing what is being brought to the table. The hardest person to teach is one who thinks they know ALREADY. I directed you to a website in which you would get the information that you seek. I even was going to direct you to a place of study close to you, so that you can get your answers if you were serious about getting answers. Or are you just on a smear campain against the Nation?
I've been on the Siccness for awhile, and I seen where these debates go. I'm not going to allow Islam, or the Nation to be disrespected, and made mockery of on a gangsta rap website. So I will not be going back and forth with you to give you answers, that I have told you to seek out for yourself, and I have gave you the right way to go about it.
The Siccness is like an elementary school playground. Some will go above and beyond to show they ass and act other then what thier norm is just to get some sort of following or reaction from the other members. I'm not going subject Islam to that Sir.
Shoowilla- I knew that when I posted that you would be "patrolling" the boards so that you could respond just as you did. Take what I said, put quotes, and then give some shoowillisms after each one. Typical and very predictable. As not to argue over Islam on the Siccness, I suggested that you PM me. You chose not to. I understand. You are so hell bent on a mission to prove the NOI to be false, and not real, that you dont even have time to slow down, and seeing what is being brought to the table. The hardest person to teach is one who thinks they know ALREADY. I directed you to a website in which you would get the information that you seek. I even was going to direct you to a place of study close to you, so that you can get your answers if you were serious about getting answers. Or are you just on a smear campain against the Nation?
I've been on the Siccness for awhile, and I seen where these debates go. I'm not going to allow Islam, or the Nation to be disrespected, and made mockery of on a gangsta rap website. So I will not be going back and forth with you to give you answers, that I have told you to seek out for yourself, and I have gave you the right way to go about it.
The Siccness is like an elementary school playground. Some will go above and beyond to show they ass and act other then what thier norm is just to get some sort of following or reaction from the other members. I'm not going subject Islam to that Sir.
If you want to take this to PM's its fine with me, but I aint trying hear no NOI propaganda. I want you to explain my points that where made in the first post, what does the nation have to say?
You mean, The hardest person to fool is one who already knows the truth?
I aint seeking info on the NOI, you are the one who should be seeking, because you sound like youve been programmed. Typical NOI, not being able to give answers.
I know islam, i have studied it for many years. NOI is not islam, nor im I intersted. NOI is using the name of islam, which is what bothers me, and that is why I'm ready to disprove your false beliefs. Call your cult something else, and then I could care less.
The whole basis for your reasoning is flawed, because farrakhanism is not islam.
And I gave you the number to the newark masjid feel free to call and speak with african american brothers about real islam or the noi.
You mean, The hardest person to fool is one who already knows the truth?
I aint seeking info on the NOI, you are the one who should be seeking, because you sound like youve been programmed. Typical NOI, not being able to give answers.
I know islam, i have studied it for many years. NOI is not islam, nor im I intersted. NOI is using the name of islam, which is what bothers me, and that is why I'm ready to disprove your false beliefs. Call your cult something else, and then I could care less.
The whole basis for your reasoning is flawed, because farrakhanism is not islam.
And I gave you the number to the newark masjid feel free to call and speak with african american brothers about real islam or the noi.