Joseph Stack's Manifesto

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Why do you think he did this? because nobody would listen to him when he was living. He's obviously had enough of being ignored and took action.
Are you kidding me? What did he do to get "heard" before he decided to act like a jackass? Did he get people together? Did he protest in front of IRS buildings constantly? Did he raise hell with the government? It seems to me he wrote a manifesto that only he read until he decided to do this shit. What else did he do?

You want to know what standing up and speaking until you are heard is? Watch some videos based on the movements in the 1960's. Read some books on the Civil Rights Movement, or Women's Suffrage.

Those folks weren't heard at first, but they didn't go blow anything up or kill people to get a point across. They kept truckin', and kept yelling until they got what they were after. Civil Rights folks are HEROES...this dude had a valid complaint, but took the bitch route. Therefore, he's a coward...
 
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Joe Stack Is Sign of the Times

No pitchforks, but expect more airplanes or more likely guns. Everyone wants a just, fair country back, but the black guy didn’t take it.

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Joseph Stack, frustrated American, flew his airplane into an Austin, Texas, office building. He was one of the 79 per cent of Americans who have given up on ‘their’ government.

The latest Rasmussen Poll indicates that the vast majority of Americans are convinced that ‘their’ government is totally unresponsive to them, their concerns, and their needs. Rasmussen found that only 21 per cent of the American population agree that the U.S. government has the consent of the governed, and that 21 per cent is comprised of the political class itself and liberals. Rasmussen concludes that the gap between the American population and the politicians who rule them ‘may be as big today as the gap between the colonies and England during the 18th century.’

Indications are that Joseph Stack was sane. Like Palestinians faced with Israeli jet fighters, helicopter gunships, tanks, missiles and poison gas, Stack realized that he was powerless. A suicide attack was the only weapon left to him.

Stack targeted the IRS, the federal agency that had gratuitously ruined him. He flew his airplane into an office building occupied by 200 members of the IRS. This deliberate plan and the written explanation he left behind segregate him from deranged people who randomly shoot up a Post Office or university campus.

The government and its propaganda ministry do not want to call Stack a terrorist. ’Terrorist’ is a term the government reserves for Muslims who do not like what Israel does to Palestinians and the U.S. government does to Muslim countries.

But Stack experienced the same frustrations and emotions as Muslims who can’t take it any longer and strap on a suicide vest.

‘Violence,’ Stack wrote, ‘not only is the answer, it is the only answer.’ Stack concluded that nothing short of violence will get the attention of a government that has turned its back on the American people.

Anger is building up. People are beginning to do unusual things. Terry Hoskinsbulldozed his house rather than allow a bank to foreclose on it. The local TV station conducted an online survey and found that 79 per cent of respondents agreed with Hoskins’ action.

Perhaps the turning point was the federal government’s bailout of the investment banks whose reckless misbehavior diminished Americans’ retirement savings for the second time in eight years. Now a former head of the most culpable bank is campaigning to cut Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits in order to pay for the bailout. President Obama has obliged him by creating a ‘deficit commission.’

The ‘deficit commission’ will be used to gut Social Security, just as the private insurance health plan is paid for by cutting $500 billion out of Medicare.

It could not be more clear that government represents the interest groups that finance the election campaigns. …

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/02/24/joe-stack-is-sign-of-the-times/
 
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Are you kidding me? What did he do to get "heard" before he decided to act like a jackass? Did he get people together? Did he protest in front of IRS buildings constantly? Did he raise hell with the government? It seems to me he wrote a manifesto that only he read until he decided to do this shit. What else did he do?

You want to know what standing up and speaking until you are heard is? Watch some videos based on the movements in the 1960's. Read some books on the Civil Rights Movement, or Women's Suffrage.

Those folks weren't heard at first, but they didn't go blow anything up or kill people to get a point across. They kept truckin', and kept yelling until they got what they were after. Civil Rights folks are HEROES...this dude had a valid complaint, but took the bitch route. Therefore, he's a coward...
This shit is bigger than the Civil Rights Movement.

I bet you'd be saying the Founding Fathers are terrorists too for standing up to its government doing these types of things. So the founding fathers are considered cowards too huh?
 
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This shit is bigger than the Civil Rights Movement.

I bet you'd be saying the Founding Fathers are terrorists too for standing up to its government doing these types of things. So the founding fathers are considered cowards too huh?
First of all, I never even said this dude was a terrorist...I said he was a coward.

This shit is NOT bigger than the Civil Rights Movement. In order for it to be bigger than the Civil Rights Movement, people would have to ban together, get organized, and go at it...TOGETHER. Just because people sit there and bitch in different parts of the country doesn't mean it's a movement.

The founding fathers, again, are completely different. They rose up against a tyrannical government TOGETHER! There were British soldiers imposing British law on people that wanted to be free. Again, the people rose up against a common enemy and died fighting a war for their freedom from Tyranny.

This dude did not die fighting a battle...he did not die for his freedom...and he did not die for the freedom of anybody in this country. He died because he was sick of the IRS...and he killed an innocent man that was just doing his job in an office. He didn't kill the people that pass tax laws, he killed himself and somebody that did what somebody else told him to.

You need to learn your history before you compare this dude to anybody that had a real fucking cause. People in 2010 are too lazy to march...or to fight tyranny....they all think a fuckin e-mail with 200,000 signatures will get shit done.
 
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Are you kidding me? What did he do to get "heard" before he decided to act like a jackass? Did he get people together? Did he protest in front of IRS buildings constantly? Did he raise hell with the government?
I don't know if he did. Do you know he didn't?
 
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Did you hear about him starting a movement on the news? If not, then he didn't do enough.
Good point. Everybody knows if you don't hear it on the news it didn't happen.

I don't know what movements he started or what protests he attended. I do know what he wrote, and his words are those of somebody who was tired of being ignored by his government. To what extent did he try to get the governments attention before flying a plane into an IRS building I don't know, but he obviously reached the point where he felt violence was as he said "not just the answer, the only answer".