Jacka & Husalah run into A-Wax at SXSW

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*must he devote his soul to hip hop? do you have a hip hop blog?
What are you talking about, sir? My response was ONLY to point out that Wax isn't really that much different from all the artist he shunned.

*A-Wax, Philthy Rich, C-Bo, Cellski, Paul Wall, Freeway, Cormega are your typical "gangster" rappers.
Confirmation bias, sir?

A-Wax, Jacka, Philthy Rich, C-Bo and Cellski are MUCH much more alike as far as subject and style goes than they are in comparance with Paul Wall, Freeway, Cormega, Zion I. The latter artist couldnt' be more different from each other let alone those "typical" west coast rappers. All I'm saying is A-Wax hasn't nearly stepped outside of the box as the previous poster claimed.

And sir, If you can please point to me these instances in which A-Wax has completely evolved as the other poster stated.. we'll be on our way here. An example of evolving IMO is Atmosphere going from a more traditional hip hop sound to live instrumentation and stronger focus on story telling.

*so in essence Jackas choice of beats is "stepping out the box"? you typed all that for that, breh?
No, sir. Regarding what the previous poster stated.. Again, in comparance to A-Wax, he's done more to "step out the box". If you had actually read both my response and the previous posters response.. You would caught that.
 
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you must not listen to A-Wax or any of his songs in which he is "story telling"
Actually, sir I've heard everything he's put out (as far as his solo projects go) up to "The Street Album".. But, what's your point, sir?

Lots of artist tell stories, how in any way does that mean he's a completely evolved overall as an artist (as the previous poster stated)?

In Comparing Atmosphere's "Overcast" album and "The Family Sign" overall musically, you can hear the growth of the artist between those 2 albums. When you compare Savage Times to Unconditional Thug (or The Street Album) you'll hear that they are essentially more of the same thing, his flow, voice,lyrics, may have slightly adjusted or changed, but it's still essentially the same stuff. And their's nothing wrong with that.. You stick to what you're good at. It's just some of you, sirs... overhype him...

And again, sir.. if I'm wrong point to me these instances (that I apparently missed) where he's evolved. No one has shown me yet...
 
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Sir, bad way to start a discussion, you sound like another whiney "rap" fan... Oh but, wait... A-Wax is your musical savoir. You sound like you work on his promo team, sir.
I don't look at any rapper as a "savior" but you can tell it all you want for the sake of siccness.


No sir, I think some of you people just like throwing words around because they sound good.. Is his music REALLY evolving that much? His lyrics and flow may have improved (which is debatable)... but overall his music is essentially the same stuff he was putting out on 65 g'z.. The only difference in his music now is he raps about being a piru.. over southern sounding production. Not exactly a big leap from where he started.
The quality of his music has improved. I am talking sound quality, better visuals, etc. But that is my opinion.


What exactly has he done that's stepping outside the box? In the end, he's essentially your typical gangster rapper. I've heard all of his albums, sir.. so you go ahead and try to point out to me what I missed that makes him so much different from other gangster rappers like Philthy Rich or C-Bo.
Well lets see, he doesn't feature all the same artists as everyone else, he is networking outside the Bay, and meeting new people. But once again, that is my opinion.


Sir, you definitely have a biased angle.. LOL So stop acting like you're being objective here.. You can't give A-Wax props for "stepping out the box but then down play Tear Gas like that. The thing that's great about TG is the overall variety it offers from the wide variety of production to the wide variety of features from Cellski, Zion I, Paul Wall, Freeway and Cormega and they don't sound out of place. If that's not "stepping out of the box" than I don't know what to tell you, sir. In fact, the only thing that holds Tear Gas back are too many features and not enough solo tracks...
The quality as in sound quality wasn't as good I would have expected, considering all the hype surrounding the album. I expected some money to be spent on some production, not songs recorded at the same little underground spots as everyone else is my point. Really I bought it to support and because jacka was always good with me and wasn't on some bullshit in real life.

If anyone here is biased, it is you massa....
 
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its funny how people dont want their local artists beefs exposed, but they go crazy about other rappers getting socked up on cam, and talk hella shit about socked up rapper being a bitch.

pot calling kettle what again?
 
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You really can't be that dumb, can you?
Sir, Atmosphere is a rap group... and if you're seriously trying to tell me they havn't evolved in the entire span of their career.. you CLEARLY either havn't heard ANY of their material before, or you're just reaching (and it's pretty clear you are).

Oh that's right.. You're the guy who doesn't listen to rap any more (except for A-Wax) so how would you know anything about Atmosphere? LMAO... Checkmate, sir... checkmate..

And LOL at the sir who blindly agreed with you.. you look like an even bigger idiot than the guy I'm quoting..
 
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Sir, Atmosphere is a rap group... and if you're seriously trying to tell me they havn't evolved in the entire span of their career.. you CLEARLY either havn't heard ANY of their material before, or you're just reaching (and it's pretty clear you are).

Oh that's right.. You're the guy who doesn't listen to rap any more (except for A-Wax) so how would you know anything about Atmosphere? LMAO... Checkmate, sir... checkmate..

And LOL at the sir who blindly agreed with you.. you look like an even bigger idiot than the guy I'm quoting..
Sir, I don't listen to rap (I break down every once in awhile though, I can't lie) because of the false advertisement it really is. I have never heard of "atmosphere" nor do I care too. What I do know is you couldn't checkmate me on my worst day, let alone your best. I heard the other side of the lake has a better bite, so you might want to take your pole over there because the bite is slow over here. This fish has learned to not bite on artificial lures....
 
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*What are you talking about, sir? My response was ONLY to point out that Wax isn't really that much different from all the artist he shunned.


*A-Wax, Jacka, Philthy Rich, C-Bo and Cellski are MUCH much more alike as far as subject and style goes than they are in comparance with Paul Wall, Freeway, Cormega, Zion I. The latter artist couldnt' be more different from each other let alone those "typical" west coast rappers. All I'm saying is A-Wax hasn't nearly stepped outside of the box as the previous poster claimed.

*And sir, If you can please point to me these instances in which A-Wax has completely evolved as the other poster stated.. we'll be on our way here. An example of evolving IMO is Atmosphere going from a more traditional hip hop sound to live instrumentation and stronger focus on story telling.
*no. your responce was to him not listening to rap much nowadays, and being a "whiny" rap fan. who gives a fuck. not everybody jacks off to Slug and says sir.

*A-Wax and Jacka sound more like grimy ass east coast artists than traditional west coast rappers. they dont sound too much like C-Bo, Philthy, or Cellski. Zion I in the same club as Freeway, Paul Wall, and Cormega? again, all but Zion I are essentially "hardcore" rappers. your acting like a 90's baby sayin all that.

*though i think Wax has grown since 65 G'z, im not arguing that on here.