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May 13, 2002
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Cloning Super Horses.

Are we to clone super humans next??

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Champion endurance horse cloned

The birth of the world's second horse clone has been announced by scientists.

The foal is a copy of a world endurance champion, Pieraz, an animal that has been castrated and was therefore incapable of normal reproduction.

The research was undertaken by genetic engineering labs Cryozootech of Evry, France, and LTR-CIZ of Cremona, Italy, where the foal is being kept.

The World's first horse clone Prometea, was produced by the same group of researchers in 2003.

The new clone, called Pieraz-Cryozootech-Stallion, was born on 25 February.

Pieraz, the donor of the genetic material used to create the foal, reached the top of his equestrian discipline in 1994 and 1996. He is owned by the Kanavy family of Fort Valley, Virginia, US.

Endurance riding involves racing at controlled speeds over distances of many tens of kilometres.

The sport is popular world-wide with a very keen following in the United Arab Emirates, where local horses are known for their stamina.

Currently, international rules do not permit artificial insemination, or any kind of fertility treatment, for the production of thoroughbred race horses.

This is not such a great restriction in flat racing because the champion horses of the turf are rarely castrated; the best stallions and mares will be sent to stud at the end of their careers to breed the next generation of top horses.

But the proponents of cloning say the copying technology could be useful in those sports frequented by animals that are often gelded at a young age and have no ability to reproduce normally.

Cryozootech has a bank of genetic material from more than 30 horses that have excelled in various equestrian disciplines, such as jumping and dressage.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4443881.stm
 
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Merciedez said:
Wouldn’t it be tight if those scientist and doctors could be accessible to assist in hospitals and countries who are in dire need of doctors for the sick and dying?

oh well, priorities. i'd prefer for a limited use of medical professions to research cloning while a larger majority are in hospitals.

Actually, scientific doctors and medical doctors aren't interchangeable. I would rather have a cardiologist taking care of my heart than a bioresearcher.
 
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I can't wait tell they open up Jurasic Park...lol.. real deal though thatz shitz krazy, I alwayz knew thiz kinda shit waz gunna happen... cloning humanz will be an enevitable step in the cloning process... which IMO will fuck up society...
 
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First order for pet dog cloning

A South Korean company says it has taken its first order for the cloning of a pet dog.



A woman from the United States wants her dead pitbull terrier - called Booger - re-created.

RNL Bio is charging the woman, from California, $150,000 (£76,000) to clone the pitbull using tissue extracted from its ear before it died.

The work will be carried out by a team from Seoul National University, where the first dog was cloned in 2005.

Commercial cloning

RNL Bio says this is the first time a dog will have been cloned commercially.

"There are many people who want to clone their pet dogs in Western countries even at this high price," company chief executive, Ra Jeong-chan, told the Korea Times.

The firm is expecting hundreds more orders for pets over the next few years and also plans to clone dogs trained to sniff out bombs or drugs.

One out of every four surrogate mother dogs produces puppies, according to RNL Bio's marketing director, Cho Seong-ryul.

"The cost of cloning a dog may come down to less than $50,000 as cloning is becoming an industry," he said.

Dog attack

The pitbull's owner, Bernann McKunney, gave the company ear tissue, which an American biotech firm preserved before the animal died 18 months ago.

She is said to have been particularly attached to the dog, after it saved her life when another dog attacked her and bit off her arm.

The university's team is led by Professor Lee Byeong-chun, who was previously in a team headed by the disgraced stem cell scientist, Hwang Woo-suk.

Mr Hwang's results on cloning human stem cells, initially hailed as a breakthrough, were found to have been falsified and he is now on trial charged with embezzlement and fake research.

But the team did succeed in creating the world's first cloned dog two years ago - an Afghan hound named Snuppy.

They continued with the programme, cloning more dogs and also producing clones of Korean grey wolves.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7246380.stm
 
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damn congratulations on referencing someone who was minutely famous THIRTEEN YEARS ago

but looking at the nWo wcw reference in your avatar its obvious youve been buried in some time capsule since 95-96
 
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Yes it would be nice, but you should know by now the only priority under a capitalist society is profit.

Helping the needy does not generate $$$
Profit is good. The more money you make the more people you can help. Capitalism is great. You use the system to help the masses. You only seem to see the negative aspect. I want to make money and capitalism is the quickest way to do it. If it takes an evil system to generate the most good then by all means at least others are profiting as well.

Helping the needy does generate profit. If people see you helping someone out, they in turn will donate (usually) or help out your company to help those. Thus people will be more inclined to use your services. Thus generating a profit and thus giving to the needy. You may know your communist/socialist viewpoints (which is fine Iam not saying you are the devil for knowing it and living it) but you have no clue how to truly do business. Thats not your thing and I understand that, but dont run around saying its all evil, because if one thing will always be fact its there are exceptions to every rule.
 
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Profit is good. The more money you make the more people you can help. Capitalism is great. You use the system to help the masses. You only seem to see the negative aspect. I want to make money and capitalism is the quickest way to do it. If it takes an evil system to generate the most good then by all means at least others are profiting as well.

Helping the needy does generate profit. If people see you helping someone out, they in turn will donate (usually) or help out your company to help those. Thus people will be more inclined to use your services. Thus generating a profit and thus giving to the needy. You may know your communist/socialist viewpoints (which is fine Iam not saying you are the devil for knowing it and living it) but you have no clue how to truly do business. Thats not your thing and I understand that, but dont run around saying its all evil, because if one thing will always be fact its there are exceptions to every rule.
Profit is indeed good – for CEO’s and shareholders. Not for the layperson, the poor, and especially not for the planet. I agree with the basis of your following statement: the more money you make the more people you can help. Yes, that’s true. What is equally true is that having the means to help someone isn’t the same as actually helping them – i.e. sure, they can help more people, but they don’t (there are rare exceptions, like Bill Gates funding research into disease etc.)

The negative aspects of capitalism far outweigh the positives. When you hear on the news that the share prices of a bank have fallen because ‘they only turned a 300 million dollar profit last quarter’, alarm bells should be ringing immediately. You know it’s going to result in increased fees, more job losses and ultimately worse service for customers – all so they can make their targeted 400 million dollar profit and further increase share prices. What do these companies do for the people? Apart from donating meagre sums of money to charities (which are far too small to affect their bottom line but enough to generate positive PR), they don’t do jack shit for anyone. Again, as I feel the need to reiterate – the only people who get anything out of such companies are the shareholders and the companies themselves.

In the US ‘capatilism-on-steroids’ model, helping people rarely generates profit. If a multinational company funds research into a malaria vaccine, do you honestly think people will donate money to that multinational company and thus increase their profit? Absolutely not. The only way companies can increase profits by donating is through positive PR – if a bank donates $10K to cancer research and advertises their ‘generosity’, occasionally people may switch to that bank because they feel as though the bank is doing something to help the masses. They don’t give a shit about actually helping people – the only reason they make such donations is so they don’t look like devils and because it may even help them turn more profit.

I don’t think you would have much chance of running a successful business yourself. If you opened a company, sold your product at a reasonable price and gave away a moderate percentage of your profits to charity, then other businesses which sold the same product will outcompete you every time and within months you’d be bankrupt. Capitalism = greed. Giving away money doesn’t fit the bill sorry.
 
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I'm honestly more on some "How the fuck does this bitch think the cats personality is"

How many behaviors does a cats brain have to REALLY differentiate it from another cat.

One word to that bitch

ASININE!