Isreal wants peace? Ya right

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May 13, 2002
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Children shot in third day of Israeli army raids

Conal Urquhart in Jerusalem
Thursday June 5, 2003
The Guardian

The screams echoed around the clinic yesterday as a woman brought her seven-year-old daughter in for treatment. She had been shot in the abdomen by an Israeli soldier.
As George Bush talked about peace with the Israeli and Palestinian prime ministers, Israeli soldiers were rampaging around the refugee camp of Balata and the city of Nablus for the third day running.

The seven-year-old girl was the latest casualty in Balata. According to the Red Crescent, some 50 people have been treated for bullet and shrapnel wounds in two days.

Many in the West Bank were looking at their television in astonishment as their prime minister, Mahmoud Abbas, met his Israeli counterpart, Ariel Sharon, and President Bush in the Red Sea resort of Aqaba.

Many feel as if the events are entirely dislocated from them and the rhetoric is from another planet.

Terms such as the road map and the peace process appear fraudulent.

Mohmmad Rada, 35, said: "I do not have any trust for this summit in Aqaba. It was convened at the expense of the Palestinian people and the expense of our president, Yasser Arafat, who is besieged in Ramallah.

"They are trying to provoke us so that they can say that we are the terrorists. I have just seen them shoot a little girl in the street," he said.

The girl was hit by a rubber-coated bullet as it richocheted around the narrow alleyways of the West Bank's largest refugee camp. A doctor at the clinic said that she was the first casualty of the day, although there had been dozens the day before.

The doctor had to halt the telephone interview as tear gas seeped into the clinic, forcing everyone to leave.

Later, a boy was shot in the head with another rubber-coated bullet. His condition remains unclear.

Dr Samir Abu Zarur, the head of the casualty department at Rafiah hospital in Nablus, said that his department alone treated 32 people injured by the Israeli army on Tuesday. Around half came from Balata refugee camp.

"Twelve of the injured were children. One eight-year-old was shot in the face with a rubber-coated bullet. A young woman lost her eye and a young man lost a kidney. There are two or three still in a serious condition," he said.

According to witnesses, the Israeli army has been conducting a series of nightly raids in the camp, followed up by daily patrols that invite stone-throwing attacks from the youth of Balata. The soldiers then respond with tear gas, rubber-coated bullets and regular bullets.

The Israeli army announced yesterday that it had sealed off the refugee camp, a cramped ghetto housing some 30,000 people on the outskirts of Nablus.

Angela, a peace activist from New York who refused to give her surname for fear of arrest, said Balata had been under attack for the past three days.

"This is the road map on the ground. They have been arriving at 2am in the morning with hundreds of troops and breaking into houses and using human shields to search property," she said.

"Today we woke up to brand new roadblocks around the camp and on the way into Nablus. The supposed easing of restrictions is a farce."

A spokesman for the Israeli army said: "There are very serious security alerts in that area. We don"t mean that there is actually a suicide bomber with a vest of explosives on but we have to increase our vigilance in that area."

Walid Khaled, a youth worker in Balata, said the activities of the army were antagonising the camp's restless youth who have spent much of the last two years confined to the camp which is less than a square mile in area.

"The young people are facing the soldiers with only stones," he said. "They are not going to the soldiers, the soldiers are going to them. There are no more gunmen left here, yet the situation is getting worse not better."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,970652,00.html
 
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Michael Reagan, June 3, 2003


Road Map Could Cost U.S. Our Best Friend and Ally

Making Sense By Michael Reagan

"Israel must vanish, Muslims say" blared a headline in the June 3, edition of International Herald Tribune.

And if my fears are justified, that’s where the so-called "Road Map," to peace could lead us.

What that road map ultimately does is weaken our only friend and real ally in the Middle East, and we have to understand that this friend is Israel.

By putting together this road map and even talking about giving the Palestinians a state is telling the world that terrorism wins. The lesson this would teach is that if you terrorize long enough, hard enough and lie enough, then ultimately you’ll get the big dog, the United States to give in and believe that if we give you your own state you'll be a peaceful country.

Well that’s not what history shows. In 1948 the Palestinians had what amounted to a Palestinian state. What happened? They went to war trying to destroy Israel.

Most Palestinians live in Jordan, which is about 80 percent Palestinian. So they have a state, but they aren’t welcome there.

The fact is that the people President Bush wants to give a state are not peaceful people – they are terrorists. We may call them Palestinians, but we have to remember that they are Arabs, and the attitude of Arabs toward Israel and the United States is one of sheer hostility, as the Pew Research poll reported in the Herald Tribune story reveals.

Reports the Tribune, "Animosity [to the U.S.] is so high that solid majorities in five populations surveyed expressed confidence in Osama bin Laden to ‘do the right thing’ in world affairs." Incredibly, bin Laden was one of the three "leaders" most trusted by the nine Muslim populations surveyed, outranking even UN secretary-general, Kofi Annan. Bin Laden’s confidence rating was matched only by Yasser Arafat, leader of the Palestine Liberation Organization, and Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.

According to the poll, at exactly the time the Israeli government, under intense U.S. pressure, has accepted the right of Palestinians to statehood, most Muslim populations surveyed believe by wide margins that the needs of Palestinians cannot be met so long as the state of Israel exists.

The poll, conducted by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, questioned more than 15,000 people in May. Muslims in Indonesia, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Morocco, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Palestinian Authority and Turkey were included in the massive poll.

As for the future of the U.S.-sponsored "road map" to peace, the poll showed Muslims convinced that "the rights and needs of the Palestinian people" Palestinian state or no Palestinian state, "cannot be taken care of as long as the state of Israel exists."

In other words, giving the Palestinians their own state carved out of part of Israel not only fails to insure Israel’s security, it poses a serious threat to the continued existence of our sole friend and ally in the Middle East.

According to the poll, the conviction that no way can be found for Israel and the Palestinians to coexist is strongest in Morocco (90%), followed by Jordan (85 %), in the Palestinian Authority itself (80 %), Kuwait (72 %), Lebanon (65 %), Indonesia (58 %) and Pakistan (57 %).

This is the reality of the situation, and the "road map" to peace flies in the face of it, accepting the naïve belief that satisfying Palestinian demands for a state of their own will somehow remove the ever present threat to the very existence of Israel.

Keep in mind the fact revealed in the poll – that fully 80 % of the population included in the Palestinian Authority – the people who will be the citizens of the Palestinian state - want Israel to vanish. They insist that there can be no peace as long as the country that is ready to give them their own state continues to exist.

The only two men who could have brought real peace were Itzhak Rabin and Anwar Sadat. They’re gone, murdered because the terrorists do not want peace.

Golda Mier put it this way: "When the Palestinians start loving their children more than they hate their enemies there will be peace." Not before then.

Mike Reagan, the eldest son of President Ronald Reagan.

©2003 Mike Reagan.
 
Mar 13, 2003
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Stop cutting and pasting faggots. If you had fucking sense you could talk it out - If I want to read a bunch of smokescreen hardliner shit I'd go to the fucking webpages myself.
 
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That is absolute and utter bullshit. Reducing an entire nation to 'terrorists' is common far right-style tactics. The Palestinians are poor, homeless, afraid, and disenchanted. They don't bomb simply to kill Jews or promote Islam. At the heart, it's a territorial battle, nothing more, nothing less.
 
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man, everytime they show a demonstration
they put pictures of a Palistinian kid who's been hurt
but never of an Israelian kid who's been blown to pieces by a suicide bomber

you wanna make a statement
SHOW A PICTURE OF BOTH

like miggidy said, crazed assholes on both sides, in no way do they speak for the majority
 
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Why is it so fuckin hard for these countries to get over it...we shud just stop going to and helping the countries until they realize how fuckin gay they are and quit killing....but no there just too FUCKING GAY...FUCKING FAGS
 

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my knowledge of the topic is limited but from what i do know i dont see why the palestinians arent granted statehood. is that all it would take to end the fighting? from what i know the situation is never going to end until one or the other is completely eliminated from the planet.
 
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YOUNGMOE said:
man, everytime they show a demonstration
they put pictures of a Palistinian kid who's been hurt
but never of an Israelian kid who's been blown to pieces by a suicide bomber
OH FUCK OFF HOESUS. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU GO BLATHERING YOUR PRO JEW AGENDA IN EVERY FUCKING POST WHEN YOU'RE NOT EVEN A JEW. YOU FOLLOW THAT TOA-DOA FRIED RICE CHINAMAN BULLSHIT AND ANY ORTHODOX RABBI WOULD FART IN YOUR DIRECTION.

WHAT CLAIM DO YOU HAVE TO ISRAEL I DON'T GET IT - THE ONLY CLAIM JEWS HAVE TO ISRAEL IS THE TORAH WHICH YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN - YOU BELIEVE IN CHINK FORTUNE COOKIES YOU FAGGOT. AND EVEN IF YOU DID BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE YOU'RE NOT EVEN A FUCKING JEW, YOU'RE A BROOKLYN POLLACK WHO GOT CONFUSED SOMEWHERE AND STARTED SPEAKING YIDDISH...REAL PPL FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH AND ACTUAL ISRAELITES WHO FOLLOW THEIR OWN SCRIPTURE SEE YOU AS GENTILE SHIT ANYWAY...PLUS YOU THINK YOU'RE BLACK ANYWAY SO WHAT THE FUCK IS IT GOING TO BE, ARE YOU A NEGRO GANGSTA FROM THE BAY, A YID FROM THE EAST COAST, A KENTUCKY REDNECK, A CHINESE FOOD DELIVERY BOY OR A FUCKIN JEW.

FUCKOFF
 
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HOE STOP PLAYING TO THE CROWD LIKE THIS IS THE WWF ABSOLUTELY NOBODY BELIEVES YOU KILL ANTS EVEN. IT'S BURNING YOU UP INSIDE THAT I'VE GOTTEN UNDER YOUR SKIN CONSISTENTLY SO YOU RESORT TO PHYSICAL THREATS - AND IT ALSO BURNS YOU AS WELL THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNOT WHOOP MY ASS EITHER. UNLESS YOU LEARNED KUNG FU FROM THOSE JAPS WHO TEACH YOU YOUR FAGGOT LO MEIN RELIGION YOU CANNOT BEAT HAND TO HAND COMBAT. I'M SWOLL YOU'RE BIRD CHESTER I'M THE MAN YOU'RE GAY AND ON TOP OF THAT THE MERE FACT YOU FELL FOR ALL OF MY FLAME BAIT SHOWS YOU'RE NOT VERY SMART AT ALL. LOOK AT HOW JEALOUS YOU ARE.