that's what i'm trying to say Chris. P Diddy is on a much higher level than Bash, with the same type of music. they're both whack as fuck in my opinion, but if i call P Diddy a fag nobody gives a fuck. but if i were to say Baby Bash is a fag, well, just look at this thread. if you go to another board (not bay-related with an abundance of bay area heads) and ask about Bash they'll probably tell you he sucks hairy balls. you all know this is true, dont play yourselves.