Is rap music damaging (American) society?

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CHRISHOGGALYPSE

CHRISHOGGALYPSE

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This is a serious question...

I don't know if it's because 90's babies just don't know how to handle themselves or what but seriously, what the hell is going on with society. Around every turn, I just see negativity associated with hip hop. Hip hop was born out of the streets but it wasn't always negative. Even real, street commentary like The Furious Five wasn't negative. Gangsta rap has been around forever now, so has Too $hort. People loved him and NWA and the like. Gangs were rampant in the 80's and early 90's. Seemed like Snoop and Dre made it cool all over again to smoke weed like crazy.

Not much has changed but it also seems worse for some reason. I can't tell you how many worthless cars I see with 22" or 24" rims. Kids feel the need to wear jewelry and fake necklaces. Kids from the projects spending ridiculous amounts of money on clothes to look like what they see on tv. Kids feel the need to give their neighborhood a reputation, even when it's not even a bad area.

Those are just examples and some of you may vehemently disagree but it seems like the amount of socially conscious hip hop artists is getting to be less and less and people like Wacka Flocka Flame are being played on the radio. Soulja Boy, for all intents and purposes is a superstar.

Will hip hop be completely dead with a damaged society in the next 15 years? Think about the progression that rap music has made in the last 15. The outlook doesn't look good
 
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Not anymore than Janis Joplin or the Grateful Dead in there time . If you see people w/ chains & money & you want that your gonna do it legal or not its your choice . Same w/ seeing some taking Acid on stage you might cheer but doesn't mean you need to drop .

I think (HOPE) our youth will be smarter .

ITS ALL ON YOU NOT THEM .......... You can be a follower then your a slave to the record company & the fake ass rapper .
 
THE ACIDRAPTOR

THE ACIDRAPTOR

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Reality shows are polluting the most in today's society besides rap... Theyre infecting every youths minds by makin them drink, use drugs & lose their virginity at an even younger age, then transforming all good quality girls & women into disposable garbage hoes & good quality men into pussy scavenging hyenas & then disposable rotten flask meat garbage ya know??? Im blessed Im totally against the grain from all that shit cuz I wouldve been a victim myself... It aint nathan nice out here anymore... All that I see around makes me think that the mentalities of humanity are nothing more than just blank screens......
 
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I've spent years as a Hip Hop listener defending Hip Hop calling it art imitating life. I hate to go back on that, but as the years go on, I see certain interpretations of Hip Hop as destructive, and more and more see those interpretations leading to irresponsible behavior which is life imitating art.
 
CHRISHOGGALYPSE

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MrDiamondFDC said:
It ain't the record executives problem that the artists are stupid enough to be manipulated. Maybe if they would take some of that money they spent on a grill and got a good lawyer shit wouldn't be like it is today.
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Checks makes people make bad decisions. You been broke your whole life? A million bucks is everything you've ever dreamed about
 
Dhadnot

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as I said corporate interests. Read Antonio Gramsci's thoughts on Cultural hegemony and you'll see what is happening what has been happening with Hip Hop or anything that starts off real and ends up BS and corporatized.
 
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When Hip Hop went "mainstream" it already had corporate interests behind it. The Sugar Hill Gang did not know each other, they were formed by their label to capitalize on the new sound coming out in urban communities. It also lowers the bar of what to aim for in having a "successful" life. As a musical form in the independent, its an artform, in the hands of corporations its a wonderful social engineering tool.
 
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I don't think you can equate Sugarhill on that indie label to say, A Dre and Snoop who blew gangsta rap wide open on interscope or whatever big corporate engine they had behind them.
 
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Well that was the inception and introduction of hip hop to the masses. They were on a smaller scale back then because it was so new, most people were like the Sugar Hill Gang with usually no more than one hit, until people like Kurtis Blow and others came along in the 80's. Then they were able to turn artist into the product, instead of the music they produced, the road to the "stars" like wayne & drake we have now, where people don't care about the music as much as they care about the artist behind it.

They were testing the waters with TSHG, by the time of Dre & Snoop they had the marketing and image down, so they were able to push them further.
 
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Dre and Snoop proved that the gangsta image and talk was very marketable, the A&R's and corporate forces in the recording industry latched onto it. That's the point of cultural hegemony, Things are organic as they come, but if they prove to be influential the powers that be grab onto it, pervert it and use it for their ends.
 
CHRISHOGGALYPSE

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Hip hop isn't totally to blame but the biggest things I look at now, you could be from damn near anywhere and make it as a rapper as long as you have something that the labels can exploit but there are plenty of places I've been that the kids swear is the hardest hood ever and a lot of that comes from rap music. It wasn't like that back in 1993 when I moved here. People didn't want to say they came from a crappy area cause it's embarrassing, now people wanna be from an area with a bad reputation and if it's not bad enough, knuckleheads try and do stuff to validate it's reputation. Not due to legitimate beef or problems but because it's (fill in the blank hood).

I think hip hop is partly to blame for this. It doesn't really come from anywhere other than hip hop. Not movies, not reality tv, not the internet.

These kids feel like they have to live up to the music they listen to. Thinkin that these rappers are really still pushin these drugs like that's the thing to do. No one is talkin sense to these kids
 
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