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i think its only wrong if you force your beliefs on the child in a harmful manner that can affect the childs life

if its your child than you can raise the child as you see fit, its your "right"
it is NOT a right to raise a child, or to do it in a certain way...not everyone should be entitled to breed (and not all do obviously).

it's more of a privilege than anything, a fuckin right? HA...i dont' think so.
 

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Never heard of someone being accused of forcing their son/daughter to be gay, but then again I never said anything about being gay, we're talking about religion here right? And no it's not child abuse for teaching something that they believe is right because that's their believes. The first amendment says you have the right to whatever religion you want right? So why is it terrorism to pass the beliefs down to your child? They have as much freedom as to reject those beliefs but they probably won't realize that until their minds are developed. Remember we're talking about religion not sexual orientation or anything else.
dude, that's like saying it's ok to give a gun to a cop who's going to kill someone in cold blood...they have the "right" to have a gun, but it's not "right" to kill someone.

kids don't know any better than to believe their parents. that's why so many ignorant people believe the bible word for word.

parents may have the "right" to tell their kids what they want, but that doesn't make it RIGHT.....if i had a kid, and told them that if they had sex their penis would fall off and they would die, that's not RIGHT, but it's my "right" to say that as a parent....

the reason i think it's more on the brainwashing side, is because a CHILD doesn't know the difference, they don't know SHIT besides what they see and they're parents tell them. i got too much to say and not enough time to say it...so i'll just stop rather than trying to fit it in cause it'll just sound retarded...
 

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your right, it is a privilage but why is it that alot of dopefiend parents are still rasing their children? its a very controversial subject with many different scenarios an cant be labels as "is it right or not"

an it depends, beating your kid an firmly disciplining them is different. some times a nice firm spanking wil do wonders, more than some bullshit time out
 

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they have no freedom, you are not able to judge things when you're 5 years old, it is an evolutionary adjustment, that helped children learn quickly that what was dangerous and what was not by following their parents uncritically

you are not likely to reject what you learned at a very early age for the rest of your life unless it's something really ridiculous (like Santa Claus). Not that religion isn't ridiculous, but you're not likely to realize it in a society that is not only mostly positive about religion but is also hostile against atheism
Exactly they have no mind to judge what's right and wrong so you should teach your child what is the "right path" is according to you. I may have a completely different vision of "the right path " for my child to go down then you and/or anyone else has. That's my right to think differently then anyone else if I want to.


dude, that's like saying it's ok to give a gun to a cop who's going to kill someone in cold blood...they have the "right" to have a gun, but it's not "right" to kill someone.

kids don't know any better than to believe their parents. that's why so many ignorant people believe the bible word for word.

parents may have the "right" to tell their kids what they want, but that doesn't make it RIGHT.....if i had a kid, and told them that if they had sex their penis would fall off and they would die, that's not RIGHT, but it's my "right" to say that as a parent....

the reason i think it's more on the brainwashing side, is because a CHILD doesn't know the difference, they don't know SHIT besides what they see and they're parents tell them. i got too much to say and not enough time to say it...so i'll just stop rather than trying to fit it in cause it'll just sound retarded...
Are you guys agreeing with me or something? Because I'm reading it that way. And don't give me any other examples like "we'll if a crackhead teaches a son to do drugs is that right" because I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about religion and beliefs(spiritual). Again let me state this we are talking about religion. And I'm not talking about forcing it on to your children, I'm talking about teaching it/passing it down. Never did I say this applies to other teachings about life.

Little high so some of this might not make sense, I even got confused a lil bit while typing this. Also I'm not gonna post in this topic anymore. Not getting mad, I just don't want to keep going back and fourth like every other topic I've seen in this section, could be a good discussion tho if we were actually talking to each other in like a class or something and not typing.
 

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it does not matter whether it is religion or anything else, what matters is that it is FALSE and silly, and leaves permanent damage on a person's intellectual abilities
 

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@el toro...my reply wasn't towards you...i haven't been reading much of the thread..just saying shit...
 

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well, i'll just say this...

only telling a child ONE way of life, is a shitty way to parent. there are multiple life styles, and values...and parents that say, "this is the best one, you will be this," are shitty people because they won't let their child develop by themself without being told "this is ok for you, and this is not," and never giving the child a chance to really learn for themself...it's like telling a child, "you are not allowed to be gay, or i'll never talk to you again." and that is related to religion.

it's like saying the only way to eat a hamburger is with nothing but burger, bun, and ketchup...rather than having it YOUR way (lol)...you can make life what you want it to be, whether you want to or not...people just need to realize they have the control most of the time...
 
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your right, it is a privilage but why is it that alot of dopefiend parents are still rasing their children? its a very controversial subject with many different scenarios an cant be labels as "is it right or not"

an it depends, beating your kid an firmly disciplining them is different. some times a nice firm spanking wil do wonders, more than some bullshit time out
but if the parents see fit to literally beat the shit out of the kid its their "right"?
 
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it does not matter whether it is religion or anything else, what matters is that it is FALSE and silly, and leaves permanent damage on a person's intellectual abilities
you CANT PROVE religion is false. and how would it damage their intellectual abilities? im on your side about not teaching it to your kids, but prove religion is false.
 

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Well like a lot of you guys I am an atheist I say if your child has questions you should answer them and try to be as unbiased as possible. Eventually they may be able to make a decision themselves since you have provided them with the basic ideas of each religion. It really pisses me off that people take religion so seriously since they have been told their entire life to take the bible word for word.

One of my girlfriends friends actually believes that dinosaurs never existed because it was not in the bible. She also used to yell at me when ever I used god in vain, I just don't see how she can be mad at me for that when she is a total slut but since she believes in the bible word for word her sin of fucking a bunch of random guys is just as bad as me saying god dammit.

But I think that you should just kind of let your children make their own decisions if they want to be Jewish then they can be Jewish it is really not my life or my choice. The only thing that really matters is that you teach them to be a good person for the sake of being a good person and that they make the best out of the life they have.
 
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kids dont learn anything from being beat, they just need a swat sometimes
Yes they do, Cause if you don't spank them they'll think what they're doing is Ok. What the Heck is time out going to do? He hits his brother in the face thinking it's ok, "ok it's time out time." WTH?! He needs to know that he will be punished for doing bad things, Parents who don't spank their children lack the ambition to discipline their kids. On the Other hand, don't provoke your kids into doing bad, or don't provoke them after you've spanked them.
 

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i definitly agree wit that coment thatguy

kids come out fucked up if they are beat, a good hittin when timing is right is fit

kids need discipline, just dont over do it
 
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Yes they do, Cause if you don't spank them they'll think what they're doing is Ok. What the Heck is time out going to do? He hits his brother in the face thinking it's ok, "ok it's time out time." WTH?! He needs to know that he will be punished for doing bad things, Parents who don't spank their children lack the ambition to discipline their kids. On the Other hand, don't provoke your kids into doing bad, or don't provoke them after you've spanked them.
if this is supposed to be an argument against what i said, if so your retarded
 
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To answer the question, no it is not "terrorism" to teach a child religion. That's probably the most extreme misuse of the word "terrorism" that I have seen.

Yeah, homie. I understand you're an atheist and all, but give me a break.

There are definitely people who take that shit overboard, letting there kids play with poisonous snakes under some other extreme pretext, but that is not the majority.

I was raised in a devoutly Catholic family. It was never once ingrained in me that the Bible was to be taken literally. It was never once told to me that if I did something bad I would "go to hell".

I was exposed constantly to Catholicism and raised to make my own informed decisions.

It wasn't anything near child abuse or terrorism.

Oh, yeah...and I got my ass spanked when I did bad shit. I deserved it and appreciate it now. I have a child (unlike many of you who speculate on parenting) and I whoop his ass when he does shit I don't want him to do.