IS GOD ON THE SIDE OF AMERICA?

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IS GOD ON AMERICA'S SIDE?

  • YES GOD IS WITH AMERICA AND PROTECTS HER.

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • NO GOD IS NOT WITH AMERICA AND HER JUDGEMENT IS COMING.

    Votes: 14 70.0%
  • GOD DOES NOT EXIST.

    Votes: 4 20.0%

  • Total voters
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clearing throat...

EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING...

but i wanted to say i read it first and then agreed hes not on our side. According to the speaches given. There are many different ways to look at it tho, i mean afterall the only evidence the author is going off of is 2 presidents speeches.
 

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@916
The article is dualistic as is the poll. Knowing this, why would anyone wish to answer a completely biased poll?
THE SAME REASON WHY YOU PROBABLY READ THE BIASED ARTICLE MORE THAN ONCE.

@V
It is, and the poll reflects that.
SO IF YOU KNOW THAT WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR TYPING VERY LONG POSTS IN RESPONSE TO THE POLL ?

@BLIGHT. THANKS FOR INTERUPTING. I APPRECIATE IT. I SEE SEVERAL PEOPLE ON THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DRAG THINGS ON....SOME WILL ARGUE WITH A STOP SIGN.......

@DOSIA THE EASTER BUNNY IS ON YOUR SIDE.

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@DOSIA THE EASTER BUNNY IS ON YOUR SIDE.

:h:
LOL!


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The U.S. has done more dirt than the talibans. I don't see why God would be on the side the U.S.

The U.S. won't stand forever and neither will her fake ass promises of freedom.
 
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THE SAME REASON WHY YOU PROBABLY READ THE BIASED ARTICLE MORE THAN ONCE.



Nope.
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SO IF YOU KNOW THAT WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR TYPING VERY LONG POSTS IN RESPONSE TO THE POLL ?



It was in response to the poll being biased, not to the poll itself. The poll is obsolete.
 
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Do not worry yourself to much, my friend.

I CAN answer what I wish. If Vyasadeva wishes to reply, he may. And don't worry, he probably will. I just made it clear that none of these long posts are within the frame of the poll. Rather, they are transcendent of the mindstate put into the article.


I feel the poll would be *better* put as:

IS AMERICA ON THE SIDE OF GOD?

just a suggestion...
 
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LOL @ "arguing with a stop sign" !

^^^^^^IS AMERICA ON THE SIDE OF GOD?
I think that America will pervert his words to mean anything to be on "our side". You gotta have the backing of god, and they know it. When it becoms a question of religion and war together, if you got people thinking God is not on our side.... there would be a shit load of chaos if we went to war. Also a lot of people would not back it. You think there is a lot of lack of support now....
 

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Do not worry yourself to much, my friend.
im not worried one bit.
I CAN answer what I wish.
yes i understand that but the question was WHY are YOU replying to something that was NOT directed at you? the question was asked to "V" and ****HIS**** reasons as to why HE made HIS posts.
If Vyasadeva wishes to reply, he may.
i understand this. however the question was NOT directed at YOU. you did NOT make the posts.
And don't worry, he probably will.
thats why i asked him the question.:rolleyes:
I just made it clear that none of these long posts are within the frame of the poll.
YOU didnt make the posts. how can YOU make it clear to me about the next mans thought process etc etc etc??????? i wanted to know HIS reason for doing it. not YOURS. please read this thread again.
Rather, they are transcendent of the mindstate put into the article.
:confused: zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I feel the poll would be *better* put as:
who cares how you feel?


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@H


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"im not worried one bit."



Then it shouldn't have been brought up.
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"yes i understand that but the question was WHY are YOU replying to something that was NOT directed at you? the question was asked to "V" and ****HIS**** reasons as to why HE made HIS posts."



Have I stopped Vyasadeva from the chance to answer your question?.....
NO.
Stop ***worrying*** about it.
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"i understand this. however the question was NOT directed at YOU. you did NOT make the posts."

see above.
Also, I understand the state of mind from which Vyasadeva is coming from. I commented on it because I felt like it and because I can.
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"thats why i asked him the question."


And you just may be getting more than what you asked for. I hope we aren't overwhelming you. But, of course we aren't so let it go...
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"YOU didnt make the posts. how can YOU make it clear to me about the next mans thought process etc etc etc??????? i wanted to know HIS reason for doing it. not YOURS. please read this thread again."


It is not about the next man's thought process. It is based on what has been written by Vyasadeva and it is OBVIOUS what his intentions were. If you do not see it I suggest you do as you say to me: "please read this thread again." Also, Vyasadeva still has the opportunity to answer you himself. I have done nothing to stop him.
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"zzzzzzzzzzzzzz"



this is always real cute, Herezzzzzzzzzzzzzy
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"who cares how you feel?"



Who cares about answering this ignorant poll, but the ignorant? The mindstate behind it is IGNORANT. The wise do not speak of the topic within its biased limits. They expose its faults. This should not offend you since you neither wrote the article nor answered the poll. Unless you do adhere to the mindstate behind it. In which, I am truly sorry for calling you ignorant...



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Then it shouldn't have been brought up.
yeah just like the suggestion you recently made.
Have I stopped Vyasadeva from the chance to answer your question?.....NO. Stop ***worrying*** about it.
im not annoyed by it. nor am i "worried" about it. however i would like to know why you would answer something that wasnt asked of you? if i wanted your opinion or take as to why YOU replied i would have asked YOU. so it seems to me that ***YOU*** are the one who is ***WORRIED*** about it. you took your ***TIME*** to answer something that wasnt directed at YOU..........
see above.
see above also.
Also, I understand the state of mind from which Vyasadeva is coming from.
i understand what he types. i DO agree with him in some cases. however i *dont* KNOW WHAT IS IN *HIS* HEAD. its ***IMPOSSIBLE*** for *YOU* to answer the question i asked him. YOU didnt make a certain statement.
I commented on it because I felt like it and because I can.
so your admitting to commenting on something that OBVIOUSLY has NOTHING to do with you,never had anything to do with you and never will have anything to do with you.........all because you can?????? and you say *I'm* worried???????? :rolleyes:
And you just may be getting more than what you asked for.
???????
I hope we aren't overwhelming you. But, of course we aren't so let it go...
who is we????? :confused: you want to be "involved" soooooooooooooo bad that you took it upon yourself to answer a question that was not directed at you and group V and yourself as "we". im sorry but V is an intelligent man. i have seen his posts/threads. i dont think he needs you to answer for him or label him as "we". this is not a heresy vs 916 and v thread. its not a heresy vs v thread. you seem to be overwhelmed by the question.....which is why you answered....proof is in the pudding......
It is not about the next man's thought process. It is based on what has been written by Vyasadeva and it is OBVIOUS what his intentions were.
if it were *obvious* as to what his intentions were i would have NEVER asked him the question.
If you do not see it I suggest you do as you say to me: "please read this thread again."
i did that. especially my SECOND post of this thread.
Also, Vyasadeva still has the opportunity to answer you himself. I have done nothing to stop him.
yes he does have the oppurtunity to answer. you havent done anything to hinder him. however i want HIS answer not YOUR answer or what you THINK his answer is. once again i admit you have done nothing to stop him. the ONLY thing you have done is answered a question that has nothing to do with......you simply because "you can".
this is always real cute, Herezzzzzzzzzzzzzy
no actually i do that when you bore me.....which is often the case.
Who cares about answering this ignorant poll, but the ignorant?
you must care about it. you made a suggestion that a fourth option be included.
The mindstate behind it is IGNORANT.
that would be the article.
The wise do not speak of the topic within its biased limits.They expose its faults.
when Vyasadeva was making his posts what was he doing?
This should not offend you since you neither wrote the article nor answered the poll.
i agree and it doesnt. have i gave any inclination that i am offended? nope.
Unless you do adhere to the mindstate behind it. In which, I am truly sorry for calling you ignorant...
no ignorant would be answering questions that are obviously not directed at you.......

"fool dont know shit, and what he know dont matter"~first degree the d.e.-SIMON.
 
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@H

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"yeah just like the suggestion you recently made."


You do not see me even bringing that up anymore.
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"im not annoyed by it. nor am i "worried" about it. however i would like to know why you would answer something that wasnt asked of you? if i wanted your opinion or take as to why YOU replied i would have asked YOU. so it seems to me that ***YOU*** are the one who is ***WORRIED*** about it. you took your ***TIME*** to answer something that wasnt directed at YOU.........."



As you are taking your ***TIME*** to keep stressing this. Perhaps you should have PM'd Vyasadeva. This is a public forum. I now give you permission to let go and move on...
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"i understand what he types. i DO agree with him in some cases. however i *dont* KNOW WHAT IS IN *HIS* HEAD. its ***IMPOSSIBLE*** for *YOU* to answer the question i asked him. YOU didnt make a certain statement."



Then I have done the impossible. I never said that I was speaking for him.
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"so your admitting to commenting on something that OBVIOUSLY has NOTHING to do with you,never had anything to do with you and never will have anything to do with you.........all because you can?????? and you say *I'm* worried????????"


I commented on something in which I felt commenting on. It is as simple as that. Anything beyond that it pointless argument.
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"who is we????? you want to be "involved" soooooooooooooo bad that you took it upon yourself to answer a question that was not directed at you and group V and yourself as "we". im sorry but V is an intelligent man. i have seen his posts/threads. i dont think he needs you to answer for him or label him as "we". this is not a heresy vs 916 and v thread. its not a heresy vs v thread. you seem to be overwhelmed by the question.....which is why you answered....proof is in the pudding......"




I understand where V has been coming from from the moment he posted in this thread. It has nothing to do with being involved. And I seem not quite as overwhelmed with the question as YOU are with the answer...proof is in the pudding....
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"if it were *obvious* as to what his intentions were i would have NEVER asked him the question."



I suppose we don't all see the same things. I understood from the beginning. I answered, not as him, but as someone who understands where he is coming from. You did not ask for my answer, but you got it anyway. This is what I meant when I said, "you may just be getting more than what you asked for."
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"yes he does have the oppurtunity to answer. you havent done anything to hinder him. however i want HIS answer not YOUR answer or what you THINK his answer is. once again i admit you have done nothing to stop him. the ONLY thing you have done is answered a question that has nothing to do with......you simply because "you can"."



The question wasn't directed at me so it has nothing to do with me. But, the answer does. And I took a step forward in supplying my answer.
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"no actually i do that when you bore me.....which is often the case."


If your goal here in the forum is to be entertained then maybe you should check out the sports forum or something. You being bored is about as cute as zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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"you must care about it. you made a suggestion that a fourth option be included."


actually I didn't make that suggestion. I suggested that the poll be completely re-worded. I do not care about it in the confines of its ignorance. You must still be thinking inside the box. Or thinking that is what I am doing...
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"that would be the article."


yes.
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"when Vyasadeva was making his posts what was he doing?"


exposing its faults.
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"i agree and it doesnt. have i gave any inclination that i am offended? nope."


good.
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"no ignorant would be answering questions that are obviously not directed at you......."



If you wish to see it that way.




"I am free in all the ways you are not."
--Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
 

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#34
You do not see me even bringing that up anymore.
yet i shouldnt have brought up what i brought up......
As you are taking your ***TIME*** to keep stressing this.
this is my choice. now if i were taking my time answering something that wasnt adressed to me......well.....
Perhaps you should have PM'd Vyasadeva.
perhaps not.
This is a public forum.
i understand this. however i see no reason for me to pm him in regards to a statement that HE made on this public forum.
I now give you permission to let go and move on...
i now give you permission to do the same.
Then I have done the impossible. I never said that I was speaking for him.
when i asked V a SPECIFIC question adressed to HIM and YOU responded with
It was in response to the poll being biased, not to the poll itself.
you dont call that speaking for him? or attempting to do so?
I commented on something in which I felt commenting on. It is as simple as that. Anything beyond that it pointless argument.
a person answering a question that isnt directed at them is pointless. its as simple as that.
I understand where V has been coming from from the moment he posted in this thread. It has nothing to do with being involved.
i uinderstand where he is coming from also. however the question to HIM still remains.
And I seem not quite as overwhelmed with the question as YOU are with the answer...proof is in the pudding....
well if im overwhelmed by the question i have a right to be. I asked it :classic: . the fact of the matter is:

1.YOU DIDNT MAKE THE POSTS.

2.YOU DIDNT ASK THE QUESTION.

3.YOU WERENT ASKED THE QUESTION NOR WERE YOU ASKED TO EXPLAIN YOUR POSTS.

so who is "overwhelmed"???? i have the right to be overwhelmed.it involves me. not you. thats all the proof WE need.

i still dont understand why you are including V in YOUR assessments. he hasnt even answered yet and your saying "we". as if this is some type of battle of struggle between :H: and V with n9newunsuxx5150.....oh excuse me. n9newunsixx5150.
I suppose we don't all see the same things. I understood from the beginning. I answered, not as him, but as someone who understands where he is coming from. You did not ask for my answer, but you got it anyway. This is what I meant when I said, "you may just be getting more than what you asked for."
once again i understand where he is coming from. however the question STILL remains unanswered. YOUR answer wasnt satisfactory (to me).
The question wasn't directed at me so it has nothing to do with me.
BINGO!!!!!! TELL THIS MAN WHAT HE HAS ONE JOHNNY!!!!!!!!!!!
But, the answer does. And I took a step forward in supplying my answer.
HEY THATS GREAT BUT IT WASNT NEEDED.
If your goal here in the forum is to be entertained then maybe you should check out the sports forum or something. You being bored is about as cute as zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
??????? LOL!!!! NO COMMENT.
actually I didn't make that suggestion. I suggested that the poll be completely re-worded.
ok thats fair enough. however you making a suggestion in regards to the poll is an indication that you are concerned about it. if not you would have kept your mouth shut (not typed).
I do not care about it in the confines of its ignorance.
yet you suggest that i reword it.....and you continue to talk about it.
You must still be thinking inside the box.
look my name up in the dictionary.
Or thinking that is what I am doing...
like how you are thinking and answering for V? nah....no need to think about what you are doing.
exposing its faults.
have you considered Blights posts?
If you wish to see it that way.
yes thats how i see it.
"I am free in all the ways you are not." --Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
wasnt tyler durden a NUTCASE??????? BEATING HIMSELF UP AND BLOWING THINGS UP????? now i know where you get your logic from..........:confused:

"FREE AT LAST FREE AT LAST THANK GOD ALMIGHTY WE ARE FREE AT LAST"~M.L.K JR (I HAVE A DREAM-Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C. on August 28, 1963.)
 
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H: its very simple. the article itself should be considered dualistic.

V: It is, and the poll reflects that.

H: SO IF YOU KNOW THAT WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR TYPING VERY LONG POSTS IN RESPONSE TO THE POLL ?
To give an alternate point of view, which is that God is impartial to the land we exist upon.

I understand the options of the poll were "Is God on the side of America?" 1. Yes. 2. No. 3. No God.

All I was saying is that a 4th option of "God does not take sides", is what I would have voted for if it were an option.

We obviously digressed into other issues but that is the only reason I responded, to offer a different view than which was presented in the options of the poll.
 
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@H


It is pointless to keep this going. How about if I had put, "I realize this question wasn't for me, but here's my take on it...", before I had answered the question. Would this resolve it somewhat?...

Also, resorting to purposely misspelling my name is low. I respect the inner child, but lets keep this forum for grown ups.

V's 4th option completely transcended the other three. This was "thinking outside the box", as I put it.
 

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@v i understand that. which is why i tried to go back and add another option but it wouldnt let me do it. once you make a poll thats it. you cant change it later.

@916
It is pointless to keep this going.
so stop.
How about if I had put, "I realize this question wasn't for me, but here's my take on it...", before I had answered the question. Would this resolve it somewhat?...
that would have been cool however your imput would not have been considered.
Also, resorting to purposely misspelling my name is low. I respect the inner child, but lets keep this forum for grown ups.
is heresy spelled with zzzzzzzzzz's????? sure it is......now that i use tactics that YOU first iniated my actions are deemed "low".....if you hit someone you cant expect them to hit you back with a soft punch.....expect an equal blow or something more severe.....
V's 4th option completely transcended the other three. This was "thinking outside the box", as I put it.
once again have you considered Blights post?



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@H


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"so stop."


its done.
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"that would have been cool however your imput would not have been considered."


fine.
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"is heresy spelled with zzzzzzzzzz's????? sure it is......now that i use tactics that YOU first iniated my actions are deemed "low".....if you hit someone you cant expect them to hit you back with a soft punch.....expect an equal blow or something more severe....."


you're right. I apologize for that. Though, why is it that you resorted to this sarcasm first by typing, "zzzzzzzzzzz"?
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"once again have you considered Blights post?"


I'll have to go back and read his again. We have been a little off the topic recently...
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i think god isnt on any1's side. he says love our enemies. and we want to destroy them. so hes not gonna help any1. we gonna get what we deserve, and im not sure if its a bad or good outcome.
 
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LMAO...
I have to respond to this:

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"wasnt tyler durden a NUTCASE??????? BEATING HIMSELF UP AND BLOWING THINGS UP????? now i know where you get your logic from.........."



1. You never seem to fail to see anything beyond the surface. You just can't look deeper and I have encountered your petty materialistic thought many times like this. It makes me giggle that you once told me that I am, "spiritually dead", and reminds me of a phrase:
"To be damned by the devil is to be truly blessed."
--David Carradine (Kung-Fu: The Legend Continues)
Its like a mentally disabled kid gets off of the short bus and calls me stupid for looking at him.


2. I think Tyler Durden would be a great candidate for vice president when you decide to "bomb America"... Hypocrite!