Interesting Brady Fact
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that's just stupid to say tom brady was a bigger star than mike vick. I'm not saying BETTER QB I'm saying BIGGER STAR, meaning endorsement deals, celeb status, shit like that...shit, there are hella bigger stars in the nfl, THERE'S EVEN ONE ON HIS TEAM....this season is what he'll be remembered for and will forever be a star because of it.....and this ain't my hatred of the almighty asschin, there were just bigger stars than him before this season
lol…c’mon man…it’s not the Patriot way.
First of all…it’s easy to sign for less when your team is winning. If the Pats were as bad as the Raiders…all of their players would be holding out.
As for Brady signing for less money…the total of his contract was less…but looking at his contract…he gets most his money in the first 3 years…about 40 mil. That’s more than what Manning got in his first 3 years of his new contract.
You can’t look at the total…especially considering most totals don’t mean a thing. Players are always cut or restructure.
The patriot way…please…..
First of all…it’s easy to sign for less when your team is winning. If the Pats were as bad as the Raiders…all of their players would be holding out.
As for Brady signing for less money…the total of his contract was less…but looking at his contract…he gets most his money in the first 3 years…about 40 mil. That’s more than what Manning got in his first 3 years of his new contract.
You can’t look at the total…especially considering most totals don’t mean a thing. Players are always cut or restructure.
The patriot way…please…..
Brady is SMART. He knew he'd have the opportunity to make more money after his career is over if he was a winner. He took less pay out of selfishness, believe it or not. He wants to be known as one of the best QBs ever, and that would not happen without a great surrounding cast. Brady has never put up huge numbers until this year and that's due mostly to his O-Line giving him so much time to find an open guy from his beefed up WR corps.
People give Brady all the credit in the world for the SuperBowl championships and great playoff record, but they don't credit the defense enough. Brady wasn't winning these games by himself. He's always had a defense that keeps the other team's points down and allows Brady to put enough points up to win the game. It's not like Peyton Manning's situation where there is hardly any defense helping him (aside from last season and the SuperBowl season). Peyton and his offense had to carry that team into the playoffs every year with a terrible defense. Brady has never had to deal with that.
People give Brady all the credit in the world for the SuperBowl championships and great playoff record, but they don't credit the defense enough. Brady wasn't winning these games by himself. He's always had a defense that keeps the other team's points down and allows Brady to put enough points up to win the game. It's not like Peyton Manning's situation where there is hardly any defense helping him (aside from last season and the SuperBowl season). Peyton and his offense had to carry that team into the playoffs every year with a terrible defense. Brady has never had to deal with that.
Brady has had an overall better team around him than Peyton Manning has ever had. You can say Brady had no receivers, but we all know that's not the truth. He's had receivers who get open and catch the ball. Just because there were no big-name, pro bowlers for him to throw to does not mean he had garbage receivers. So throw that argument out the window.
Brady does not run his offense like Manning does. He does not carry his team like Manning does. Manning has had great success WITHOUT a great defense. Brady has never had to deal with that shit. Therefor, Peyton is better than Tom Brady. The numbers prove it. Brady has won more SuperBowls, but that doesn't mean everything. Like I said it's a team effort and doesn't mean one QB is better than another because of it. If that argument holds true, then Terry Bradshaw is better than Brady since he's won more SuperBowls..
Brady does not run his offense like Manning does. He does not carry his team like Manning does. Manning has had great success WITHOUT a great defense. Brady has never had to deal with that shit. Therefor, Peyton is better than Tom Brady. The numbers prove it. Brady has won more SuperBowls, but that doesn't mean everything. Like I said it's a team effort and doesn't mean one QB is better than another because of it. If that argument holds true, then Terry Bradshaw is better than Brady since he's won more SuperBowls..
Well I dont think anyone is basin it on solely rings but it is a big part. And just like u sayin throw out the reciever argument, then throw out the defensive argument. He had 11 guys on defense just like Manning does right? How u gonna say we can use the receiver argument when Manning has Harrison & Wayne?? lol come on now, T. Brown and Branch aint even close!! Brady made those scrubs who they were, just like he is makin Welker!! I mean we just disagree on this one and this is a big debate but I dont think its close!! Give Brady the talent that Manning has and shatters Mannings numbers! The proof is in the pudding!! Got Em!!
At first I was thinking Peyton Manning was/is better but after this season Brady has changed my mind.
Fatal, come on now dog. You're making it seem like Peyton Manning is a one man team. He's had more weapons to work with over a longer period of time than Brady has had. He's developed chemistry with Harrison and Wayne over the years. And to say Peyton Manning never had a defense until last year is crazy. The Colts d improved ever since Dungy took over.
Brady has won more than Peyton has and has had less talent to work with. He's never had a true #1 wide receiver until this year and then all of a sudden he shattered records while leading his team to an undefeated season.
If the Pats win the SuperBowl, Brady will be the best qb ever hands down. He's on his way to winning 4 times as SuperBowls as Manning. Brady has performed better in the playoffs.
Fatal, come on now dog. You're making it seem like Peyton Manning is a one man team. He's had more weapons to work with over a longer period of time than Brady has had. He's developed chemistry with Harrison and Wayne over the years. And to say Peyton Manning never had a defense until last year is crazy. The Colts d improved ever since Dungy took over.
Brady has won more than Peyton has and has had less talent to work with. He's never had a true #1 wide receiver until this year and then all of a sudden he shattered records while leading his team to an undefeated season.
If the Pats win the SuperBowl, Brady will be the best qb ever hands down. He's on his way to winning 4 times as SuperBowls as Manning. Brady has performed better in the playoffs.
You can't be serious man... If all that holds true then why does Brady have 3 SuperBowl rings? You must didn't watch the Patriots much this year. There's a difference between Manning and Brady. When Manning starts getting pressured and hit, he'll start to lose his composure. That's why the Steelers and Chargers have beaten the Colts recently in the playoffs.
When Brady gets hit... he doesn't lose his composure or gets rattled. He gets pissed off, starts cussing and starts lighting defenses up. Manning can be rattled at times... Brady can't.
When Brady gets hit... he doesn't lose his composure or gets rattled. He gets pissed off, starts cussing and starts lighting defenses up. Manning can be rattled at times... Brady can't.
It's not the same. We both know it. I'll continue below..
Troy Brown and Deion Branch got open and made catches. They were more than formidable receivers. Peyton Manning's defense was not NEARLY as helpful to him.
The reason I say to throw out the receiver argument is because Brady did in fact have receivers. Period. They weren't some horrible group of receivers who never got open and couldn't catch.
The Colts' defense has been ass for a long time. Brady's defense has been good for a long time.
Moss and Stallworth are making Welker. Nobody is paying attention to Wes Welker because of those two. Even though he is putting up big numbers there's nothing a defense can do because if they focus on Welker instead of Stallworth then Stallworth will be doing the same shit, or better. They definately can't focus on Welker instead of Moss. Not many team have good enough corners to double Moss, hold down Stallworth AND contain Welker at the same time.
As of right now Brady has way more talent on his offense than Manning, and he didn't "shatter" anything. He beat Peyton's TD record by 1. Brady's receiving corps is better than Manning's (Moss is better than Harrisonand although Wayne is better than Stallworth, Welker is better than anyone else the Colts have). Brady's line is way better (he can stand there FOREVER).
What I'm saying is Brady's overall team has always been better than Peyton Manning's Colts. Manning has had to carry his teams into the playoffs, not so in Brady's case. You give any QB the time Brady has in the pocket and they will do a good job. Period.
Put Peyton Manning behind a line that allows him to stand around as long as he wants and give him Brady's receiving trio. I guarantee he shatters the records Brady set this year. And give him a superb defense and he'll win the SuperBowl again.
People never factor this shit in. They just see Brady's numbers, SuperBowl rings and the 16-0 record and automatically label him the greatest.
Troy Brown and Deion Branch got open and made catches. They were more than formidable receivers. Peyton Manning's defense was not NEARLY as helpful to him.
The reason I say to throw out the receiver argument is because Brady did in fact have receivers. Period. They weren't some horrible group of receivers who never got open and couldn't catch.
The Colts' defense has been ass for a long time. Brady's defense has been good for a long time.
Moss and Stallworth are making Welker. Nobody is paying attention to Wes Welker because of those two. Even though he is putting up big numbers there's nothing a defense can do because if they focus on Welker instead of Stallworth then Stallworth will be doing the same shit, or better. They definately can't focus on Welker instead of Moss. Not many team have good enough corners to double Moss, hold down Stallworth AND contain Welker at the same time.
As of right now Brady has way more talent on his offense than Manning, and he didn't "shatter" anything. He beat Peyton's TD record by 1. Brady's receiving corps is better than Manning's (Moss is better than Harrisonand although Wayne is better than Stallworth, Welker is better than anyone else the Colts have). Brady's line is way better (he can stand there FOREVER).
What I'm saying is Brady's overall team has always been better than Peyton Manning's Colts. Manning has had to carry his teams into the playoffs, not so in Brady's case. You give any QB the time Brady has in the pocket and they will do a good job. Period.
Put Peyton Manning behind a line that allows him to stand around as long as he wants and give him Brady's receiving trio. I guarantee he shatters the records Brady set this year. And give him a superb defense and he'll win the SuperBowl again.
People never factor this shit in. They just see Brady's numbers, SuperBowl rings and the 16-0 record and automatically label him the greatest.
BECAUSE HE HAS A COMPLETE TEAM. Can you not read?
How would you know? If you watched ANY Patriots games this season you'd know that Brady HARDLY EVER GETS HIT. He hasn't been hit enough times to even know if he gets rattled or not. Nobody gets any damn pressure on him. That's why he's not the best QB ever, he has a LOT of help.
How would you know? If you watched ANY Patriots games this season you'd know that Brady HARDLY EVER GETS HIT. He hasn't been hit enough times to even know if he gets rattled or not. Nobody gets any damn pressure on him. That's why he's not the best QB ever, he has a LOT of help.
I like how you downgrade the Colts as a team and upgrade the Patriots as a team to make it seem like Brady isn't doing much. You keep coming up with lame excuses as to why you think Peyton is better than Tom. Tom Brady doesn't have all the time in the world to throw. He has "pocket" presense! That's what gives him time to throw.
I already pointed out the difference between Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Manning gets rattled under pressure and Brady doesn't. That's why Brady has more rings.
How would I know? Because I watch just like everybody else. In the Baltimore game... Brady was getting hit but stood strong in the pocket. Against the Giants he was getting hit too....
I already pointed out the difference between Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Manning gets rattled under pressure and Brady doesn't. That's why Brady has more rings.
How would I know? Because I watch just like everybody else. In the Baltimore game... Brady was getting hit but stood strong in the pocket. Against the Giants he was getting hit too....