whats your thoughts on the akg 414???ive noticed quite a few studios using this thing i dont really understand the point of thousands and thousands dollars on equipment studios using a 400 dollar(used) mic????does it sound just as good as somthin in the 3-4 thousand dollar range mic???i just dont understand feed back please....
industry standard mics??
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You'll also see a shure 58 ($99) in the big studios. It's not so much as the price but it's the sound they give off and what can be recorded with it. Some people sound better with certain mics. If you have one mic you're limited to recording music one way, but if you have several mics, and they all have different diagphrams, frequency responses, polarity etc you have more options.
The higher end mics are made different from the lower end ones and cheap parts are not used. Higher end = very delicate, should be handled with care. Low end = can be dropped, can sing directly into the mic and still get used on the next 9000 sessions. People also tend to use the higher end mics when it comes to capturing certain sound sources (like an old school baby grand for example). But you also have to remember that these studios have teh BEST pre amps, converters and engineers. You put these together and that $400 mic will sound like a $4,000 IF the engineer knows how to capture the sound.
The higher end mics are made different from the lower end ones and cheap parts are not used. Higher end = very delicate, should be handled with care. Low end = can be dropped, can sing directly into the mic and still get used on the next 9000 sessions. People also tend to use the higher end mics when it comes to capturing certain sound sources (like an old school baby grand for example). But you also have to remember that these studios have teh BEST pre amps, converters and engineers. You put these together and that $400 mic will sound like a $4,000 IF the engineer knows how to capture the sound.
is this the only mic they had? many studios carry multiple mics for different tasks and sounds.I go to a studio and they have a grip of top of the line mic pres etc,yet still have some behringer shit.Are these studios you talkin about big studios,or home studios.You may not like a certain mic,but that same mic with the right preamp might change your mind.
Like Heresy already wrote, different mics for different voices.
Madonna's new album was recorded with a Rode NT2. I know not a lot of people around here are into her if anybody at all but quality is not genre-specific.
I've had people sound better on an SM58 than a neumann. SM57's are still pretty popular for recording acoustic instruments.
The best thing to do is to try something out and not get stuck on the brand or even who used what. If you sound good with a mic, regardless if everybody else had bas results using it, stay with it.
Madonna's new album was recorded with a Rode NT2. I know not a lot of people around here are into her if anybody at all but quality is not genre-specific.
I've had people sound better on an SM58 than a neumann. SM57's are still pretty popular for recording acoustic instruments.
The best thing to do is to try something out and not get stuck on the brand or even who used what. If you sound good with a mic, regardless if everybody else had bas results using it, stay with it.
^I got a Rode NT1, which is pretty much the same thing, and it was a huge step up from my old Behringer, truth be told tho- a mic doesnt hafta be worth 2Gs to sound good, as mentioned earlier in the thread, "different mics for different ppl" but when it really comes down to it, a lot of it depends on the engineer as well......a good engineer can always make a shitty recording sound decent if he really knows whats hes doing
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Ha Ha Ha good one.....Im sayin this... a good engineer can make a cheap set up have a good sound quality,Ive witnessed that with this guy slikk rikk,he records on a korg d8,an alesis pre-amp(I think ) a lil behringer mixer,he uses those dr series drum machines and a kurzweil k2000, from step one to finished product the quality is a very good sound.
My arguement is and there isnt no arguement there are mics on the market that have a steep price, and you cant duplicate that with anything...,Look at dre he uses a sony c800 and you can find one of them used for a couple Gz ,very cheap compared to a telefunken,but the cheaper mic gives a good sound result,also for reverb there are outboard that costs thousands and he uses an old yamaha rev7 why cause it acheives the sound he is lookin for...So there are no wrong answers just different sounds we all try to acheive,Ive never been to a studio( besides a home ) that only had one mic,the current mic I use in the studio is a blue-bottle, not the babybottle,Ive used cheaper mics Ive liked as much........goodnight
Ha Ha Ha good one.....Im sayin this... a good engineer can make a cheap set up have a good sound quality,Ive witnessed that with this guy slikk rikk,he records on a korg d8,an alesis pre-amp(I think ) a lil behringer mixer,he uses those dr series drum machines and a kurzweil k2000, from step one to finished product the quality is a very good sound.
My arguement is and there isnt no arguement there are mics on the market that have a steep price, and you cant duplicate that with anything...,Look at dre he uses a sony c800 and you can find one of them used for a couple Gz ,very cheap compared to a telefunken,but the cheaper mic gives a good sound result,also for reverb there are outboard that costs thousands and he uses an old yamaha rev7 why cause it acheives the sound he is lookin for...So there are no wrong answers just different sounds we all try to acheive,Ive never been to a studio( besides a home ) that only had one mic,the current mic I use in the studio is a blue-bottle, not the babybottle,Ive used cheaper mics Ive liked as much........goodnight
Sorry hans the NT4 and the NT2 are not the same at all, Not saying the NT4 ain't good cuz it is but it is a stereo condenser mic while the NT2 is a multi polar pattern pressure gradient condenser with hella bells and whistles on it. They ain't in the same league. I like Rodes though my fav is the NTK out of the ones in their line that I've actually used. Also when something is recorded shitty there ain't no compressor EQ or magic fairy dust thats gonna make it good all of a sudden. Shit in Shit out, can't polish a turd and expect a prime rib to come out, just a shiny ass piece of shit!
50 Cal how you get hold of a Blue Bottle?? Thats some fuckin paper right there! If I had a endless cash supply I'd definatly get one of those but 5 grand is just too much for a mic.
All I can say is do your reaserch one of my teachers ran a shitty berhenger mic through Smaart and found it has the exact same frequency response as a TC30K. He also found these Aphex mics that are exactly the same as a telefunkin and another that is the same as a U-89 or U-87. These are 200 dollar mics we are talking about here, if you have the knowhow you can find some great sounding mics for pannies on the dollar of what some high priced mics run.
50 Cal how you get hold of a Blue Bottle?? Thats some fuckin paper right there! If I had a endless cash supply I'd definatly get one of those but 5 grand is just too much for a mic.
All I can say is do your reaserch one of my teachers ran a shitty berhenger mic through Smaart and found it has the exact same frequency response as a TC30K. He also found these Aphex mics that are exactly the same as a telefunkin and another that is the same as a U-89 or U-87. These are 200 dollar mics we are talking about here, if you have the knowhow you can find some great sounding mics for pannies on the dollar of what some high priced mics run.
^ I never said anything about a NT4, I compared a NT1 to a NT2 and I'm positive they're similar, I owned both of them myself at one point. and from what I've worked with, the NT1 is probably my favorite mic...I've used blue mics as well, including the babybottle and they're incredibly clean but I notice a huge difference as opposed to the Rode
at 50cal, misunderstood what you said. youre right, there are no wrong answers, I'm just sayin that if u give a really good engineer, a really shitty setup, sometimes they can work wonders and make even a computer mic sound decent
at 50cal, misunderstood what you said. youre right, there are no wrong answers, I'm just sayin that if u give a really good engineer, a really shitty setup, sometimes they can work wonders and make even a computer mic sound decent
let me clarify,i might have came off as a big shot.I dont own any recording equipment,unless you count my nuendo,yamaha mg 16 and a sennheiser e 835( I use this to fuck around with my talkbox,and the mixer is to seperate my beats(I make as a hobby) with my mpc3000,and motiff rack,jp8000,tx81z(for talkbox).I love the technology side of music,and have read many articles and listened to some pros,hung out at guitar center like its mt second home,sitting in with the engineeers who are buying and comp[aring pro audio,my friends have owned nearly anything you could think of at guitar center,keys pro audio etc,bumpus,ask bigg saccs about dj raw steel of demolition men,they was both on raging bull bigg sacccs aka dazzie dee,raw was in the killafornia group,and now makes beats. and did then.
I came home from 6 months in Iraq with more then 20,000 in my pocket,I opted in buying beats for projects,and went to a reasonable studio in anaheim and thats where Im using the blue bottle,yeah it costs about 5 grand but they also bought the case with different capsules worth another 4 grand.I used the neuman TLM103 wich i liked better.I pay for studio time cause I know Im at this point uncapable of recording at that level,I would rather learn on my beats not professional beats
I came home from 6 months in Iraq with more then 20,000 in my pocket,I opted in buying beats for projects,and went to a reasonable studio in anaheim and thats where Im using the blue bottle,yeah it costs about 5 grand but they also bought the case with different capsules worth another 4 grand.I used the neuman TLM103 wich i liked better.I pay for studio time cause I know Im at this point uncapable of recording at that level,I would rather learn on my beats not professional beats
I know thats right but here is the thing,I cant rap....my beats is only o.k. so I decieded to buy beats studio time,and do some projects,when and If i flip that money I will work on gettin a set-up,also I gota lot of respect for engineers and I know that just cause I buy some equipment doesnt make me one,I may not have the ear,So to me buying studio time is fine cause i get the better results