IMMINENT THREAT???????

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miggidy said:
^^^^
It was about spreading capitalism in the Middle East.

Sticking with the subject, Bush said we had to go after Saddam ASAP because he had WMD's and could strike against us at any moment. Isn't that an imminent threat????
not only that but the Bush administration accused Saddam of working with Al Qaeda, and invovled with 9/11. Accussing it of having WMD. And Saddam's regime alleged ability to strike the United States.


Isn't that an imminent threat????
 
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Mac Allah said:
Your right Tenkamenin did make some great points.. but all i'm trying to say is why did we not do anything about it in the past why did we just sit on our ass until now sadam gassed the kurds in the 80's...
I really don't know why they (there was a different government then) didn't stop him in 1988 when the Kurds were gassed. Something should have been done, I couldn't agree more. I think Mcleanhatch made a pretty good point in saying that both countries (Iran - Iraq) were our enemies at the time; maybe that's why they didn't intervene, I don't know.

Mac Allah said:
And why did we support other brutal murderers.
I have a hard time understanding this "we" that some of you guys use redundantly. Are you refering to Reagon, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., All of them, None of them, or maybe the people of America, I don't get how you can use "we" when the "we" that was responsible in a lot of these cases doesn't exist anymore, or is no longer a serious factor in making decisions.

Mac Allah said:
why should we go after sadam and not other evil dictators are we going to liberate the world.. are we going to go into every country to free the people or are we content with iraq..
I hope we can continue to liberate countries in dire need. if however, we stop at Iraq, it is still better then nothing, although it looks pretty bad. Right now focus has been placed on North Korea (they need liberation as well) and there weapons programs. I would rather we worry about famine in North Korea, but if a ruler can watch his country soak in poverty then it would probably be best if we took away his nuclear weapons as well. Because of what has been in the works, North Korea has already agreed to freeze all of it's weapons programs for the time being. Sometimes progress IS a slow process.
 
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Nitro the Guru said:

I have a hard time understanding this "we" that some of you guys use redundantly. Are you refering to Reagon, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., All of them, None of them, or maybe the people of America, I don't get how you can use "we" when the "we" that was responsible in a lot of these cases doesn't exist anymore, or is no longer a serious factor in making decisions.
The current Bush admin has people that were also in the Bush Sr. Admin, Reagon admin and I believe even the Clinton admin.
 
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I really don't know why they (there was a different government then) didn't stop him in 1988 when the Kurds were gassed. Something should have been done, I couldn't agree more.
Glad we agree :D

I have a hard time understanding this "we" that some of you guys use redundantly. Are you refering to Reagon, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., All of them, None of them, or maybe the people of America, I don't get how you can use "we" when the "we" that was responsible in a lot of these cases doesn't exist anymore, or is no longer a serious factor in making decisions.
When i say WE it is because the people in power who are supposed to represent us the people, is who i am talking about. Now it could be REAGON, BUSH SR, CLINTON, BUSH JR. i really don't care cuz all of em are dicks and if i can't trust my past presidents why should i trust any other ones that come my way. thats why i'm glad i got both canadian and american citizenship so i can stay up in canada. and yall don't even know what a trip canada's government is. damn they got this dude jean cretchin i can't even spell his last name right anyways he the prime minister (canada doesn't have presidents) and this dude is a fuckin psyco. this guy Jean chrecthein was out in public and some crazy protester decides to run up on him... he pushes past the body gaurds and the pm put him in a chokehold... then there's this other time when someone broke into the PM's house so he smashed a statue on the guys head. Not only that and i know yall aint' goin be knowin this but jean cretchien said about the whole canadian weed dicriminilazation thing which didn't really end up happening that if it went down he'd smoke a joint with his fine in his hand ready to pay. that' shits hilarious. americans make me sick


sorry for the useless ramblin bout nothing but i'm high as a motheafucker and ain even carin

anyways heres some links yall should check out

Canadian prime minister a pot head:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/975443.asp?0cv=CB20&cp1=1

Few facts about canada's pot head primeminsiter

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/chretien/funfacts.html

i'm tellin yall it's more fun in canada.
 

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IF IRAQ WAS NOT AN "IMMINENT" THREAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS VIOLATED RULES AND REGULATIONS SET FOURTH BY NATO/U.N.

RIGHT NOW IM LAZY AND I'M LEAVING OUT THE HOUSE FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS. A THREAD EXISTS IN THIS FORUM IN WHICH I LISTED U.N. RESOLUTIONS MANDATES ETC ETC ETC. SOMEONE *PLEASE* FIND THAT THREAD AND LINK IT HERE OR SIMPLY REPLY TO IT AND BRING IT TO THE TOP.

MANDATE, IMMINENT THREAT, NATO AND ILLEGAL ARE WORDS THAT WERE CONSTANTLY USED IN THE THREAD. SOMEONE PLEASE BRING IT UP AND COMPARE THAT THREAD TO THIS MCLEANCUNT THREAD. PEEP HIS REPLIES IN THAT THREAD....


:HGK:


PS LOL@"LIBERATION"
 
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HERESY said:
IF IRAQ WAS NOT AN "IMMINENT" THREAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS VIOLATED RULES AND REGULATIONS SET FOURTH BY NATO/U.N.
What he did to his own people combined with his already proven capacity to inflict harm on other countries (for something such as oil revenues) has proven that he is an imminent threat. I don't know that he was a threat to the U.S. specifically, but to other countries, I believe he was. Im not trying to clear America for any wrong doing, I'm speaking directly on the subject matter at hand, Saddam Hussein and Iraq.
 

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Other countries? Thats up for debate. What I'm talking about is the united states of america attacking iraq because iraq was an "imminent threat". Since iraq was NOT an imminent threat why attack? An imminent threat would be a missile that is on its way and about to slam into america. Iraq didn't have the capabilities to launch such an attack. Honestly iraq attacking other countries is irrelevent. America is not the sanctioned world police so why attack iraq?


Find that thread i'm talking about and read it. I listed several things that america did which were basically "illegal" based on rules and regulations set fourth by un/nato.



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I don't need to read the article to know the United States has committed a list of illegal actions against U.N. regulations. I will check it out if I have time, but this is not something I'm even arguing. I'm just glad Saddam Hussein is gone, and I don't care who it was that did the job.
 
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acutally how can iraq be a threat to its neighbor? it doesnt have US backing as it did before, 10 years of sactions turned the country into a third world nation. Nobody in the region consider him a threat. We all saw the fight his army put up.
 
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THIS IS WHY I SAY THAT THOSE WHO SAY THAT BUSH SAID THAT IRAQ WAS AN IMMINENT THREAT ARE EITHER LYING OR MISQUOTING HIM.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030128-19.html
^^^ STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS


Mcleanhatch said:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110004556

Bush "sold the war on the basis of an imminent threat to U.S. security, and that has now been shown to be false," Ben-Ami said. Since the threat from Iraq was not imminent, the administration could not properly justify the war, he said.

But this is a lie. In fact, in his 2003 State of the Union Address, the president said precisely the opposite:

"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Well, McLeanFaggot, no one is going to find bush saying "Iraq is an imminent threat" because he never said that sentence...not exactly any ways. All you have to do, McNugget, is read the transcripts from his pre-war speach's, the speach at Cincinnati Museum Center is a good place to start. Bush's speach writers sure did a great job of twisting words around and at the same time making the public believe Iraq poses a threat to Amerika. "The threat comes from Iraq." Not quite "imminent threat" but still a threat. "confronting the threat posed by Iraq is crucial to winning the war on terror"