Im feelin good... I think Im gettin the hang of it!

[City Situation]

Don't rely on any templates or built-in sounds bro. If you know exactly what your doing, musically, then you should be able to do anything you want without using templates n shit. FL Studio is great, but I think it's best to strip it down first or just desregard the built-in samples, then add in your own shit. Create your own samples folder and also add in plugins.

Yeah I know I never use it. I was just interested because in FL 7 they have more templates with pictures and one of them had an MPC so I was just checking them out. I never made a beat with it I was just looking at what they had in the templates.

By the way, with workstations you don't need to transfer anything, unless you composed an entire beat inside the workstation and wanted to transfer/export the tracks into Pro Tools or something, for example by recording each sequence on the workstation into separate tracks on a DAW. However, you can just hook up your workstation and slave it off of the DAW if you wanted, and play the tracks directly into it through midi. You can slave it off of an MPC also and play directly into the MPC. Hardware is very compatible when it comes to things like this, there really are no limitations. The only thing to keep in mind is preserving quality. And if you wanted to transfer sounds into your workstation, you wouldn't need to, you could just use your workstation as a controller and play the sounds into the DAW, no transfering needed.

Ah yeah I see what you mean. But again that's keyboard and MPC. With only an MPC it's a little limiting. Even with a MIDI keyboard and MPC you're limited.

And eventually you're gonna have to put it into the DAW.

 

[Mr. Samos]

Ah yeah I see what you mean. But again that's keyboard and MPC. With only an MPC it's a little limiting. Even with a MIDI keyboard and MPC you're limited.

And eventually you're gonna have to put it into the DAW.

Your not limited, at all. You can use an MPC as a controller if you wanted to.

And I didn't just say keyboard and MPC, I was talking about how well hardware is compatible with software DAW's.

All decent music that's coming off of a piece of hardware whether it's a music workstation or an MPC or whatever, eventually needs to get put into a DAW so it can be taken to that next level, specifically a Pro Tools system.

You can't compare Fruity Loops to an MPC or a Workstation, period. It's just a basic piece of software that isn't on a professional level (yet). Where as the MPC and workstations like the Motif, are industry standard products.

Peace.

 

[INCHEZ]

You can't compare Fruity Loops to an MPC or a Workstation, period. It's just a basic piece of software that isn't on a professional level (yet). Where as the MPC and workstations like the Motif, are industry standard products.

Peace.

I agree....^^^^
For the short period that I owned a MPC...it was really an eye/ ear opening...
Once I got my hands on some real hardware there was no way I could go back to FL......

Some producers however do pull it off quiet nice...

 

[Mr. Samos]

I agree....^^^^
For the short period that I owned a MPC...it was really an eye/ ear opening...
Once I got my hands on some real hardware there was no way I could go back to FL......

Some producers however do pull it off quiet nice...

This is true. 9th Wonder being one of them. This doesn't mean that it is all he uses, but, perhaps for the basic sequencing, composing, arranging, and birth of a beat. From there, I'm sure it is taken and finalized with much more powerful equipment and software.

I know several producers who use FL Studio, a few very talented ones, but they still understand the importance of what is the standard and what they need to know.

The truth is, FL Studio is a great basic piece of software for the average kid to get started with. It's extremely easy to use and learn, you can be making a beat with your first go at it, and it's extremely affordable. But to be totally reliant on it, IMO, is a huge limitation to ones growth. I personally got bored of it fairly quickly. Within a month. If you want to pursue a career in this, you need to get your hands on everything you can, you can't rely on one piece of software, which is what a lot of these newer "producers" are doing. Eventually your going to need experience or even to start off, just a basic understanding with more professional DAW's. If you start selling your beats, your going to need to break them down into separate tracks, your going to need to know the proper procedure of doing so, your going to need to be able to have them broken down and ready for Pro Tools or whichever other software your client or your clients engineer is using. So, I'm not trying to down the software, it has it's place and it's very popular, but I am saying that it lacks a level of professionalism, and as Sicc Wid It stated, it was never intended to have that professionalism. But who knows maybe in the future it will.

Again, Tall T, apologies.

lol.

 

[MAC WE$TERN]

VST plugins are a MUST IMHO, especially with a program like Fruity Loops. There's so many high quality instruments and effect plugins you can get.

If your running version 7 of FL Studio, to make it really easy for you, just install all these VST plugins to this folder: C:\Program Files\Image-Line\FL Studio 7\Plugins\VST and Fruity loops will automatically find them for you without you having to add the folder path yourself.

Do this for Instrument plugins (not effects):
After you install them, just load up FL, then go to the Channels menu, then Add one, then More..., then go down to the bottom of the list and click on REFRESH, then Fast scan (recommended) and finally after FL finds those plugins they will come up as a RED color and alls you have to do then is select them by clicking on the little boxes. Then close down that big list, go back to the Channels menu and then load them in like you would any other instrument.

To install FX plugins, do the same exact thing, but instead do it from the FX Mixer. Just click on any of the FX inserts (1-8), click on Select, More... and follow the same steps as above.

*BTW, sometimes a lot of freeware plugins just come with the ".dll" file and no installer. The .dll file is the actual VST plugin. So to install that, just manually put it in that VST plugins folder or extract it to that folder.

It's really simple, I like how FL Studio gives you the option to select your own plugins after it finds them, most other programs just select them for you and in some cases if you have too many plugins, it'll freeze because of a incompatible plugin or some $hit.

I dont know if i did it right. I installed it and everything, then i went to the channel menu then refreshed it it, i didnt see anything red though. I tried to load into a channel then an error message came that said "cant load effect to a channel. What did i do wrong? And what does this thing do again?

 

[Mr. Samos]

I dont know if i did it right. I installed it and everything, then i went to the channel menu then refreshed it it, i didnt see anything red though. I tried to load into a channel then an error message came that said "cant load effect to a channel. What did i do wrong? And what does this thing do again?

You need to open your mixer and load it though the effects bank.

Peace.

 

[Mr. Samos]

Through*

 

[50cal]

Also not everyone works with computers....some digital audio works stations and some still analog...adats tape....so Its never exclusively necessary to transfer to a computer..

 

[MAC WE$TERN]

I heard alot of wack beats from people that used the MPC or the MV8000 and Pro Tools as well. I've heard wack beats from people that used the Motif and Fantoms too. I think its the guy behind the beats not the equipment. Once u master whatever u got then u'll know how to do whatever u want to do with it. Hardware or software.

 

[BOOBOO619]

I heard alot of wack beats from people that used the MPC or the MV8000 and Pro Tools as well. I've heard wack beats from people that used the Motif and Fantoms too. I think its the guy behind the beats not the equipment. Once u master whatever u got then u'll know how to do whatever u want to do with it. Hardware or software.

That's true. Of course quality equipment can make a huge difference interms of sound quality, but it all comes down to the user's ability to make "music." A lot of people have proper tools, yet they still make some wack sounding shit because they don't know how to compose music properly. I think we all seem to forget that. We talk this and that about hardware/software, yet we never talk about the actual musical elements being made. "Those strings sound dope, that snare/clap hits hard!, nice piano/guitar n chords, nice lead synth,etc..." You can have the wackest quality sounding beat, but if I hear some good musical elements behind it, there's no doubt in my mind that it has a lot more potential once you replace those sounds with better quality ones. One of my homies makes some sick shit on FL Studio, but quality wise it sounds like shit because he doesn't know better, but musically it blows me away, but he just doesn't know better interms of finding better samples/plugins and adjusting the audio dynamics, compression, EQ, etc.... I have to help him out in that aspect. The potential is there though.

 

[City Situation]

Your not limited, at all. You can use an MPC as a controller if you wanted to.

And I didn't just say keyboard and MPC, I was talking about how well hardware is compatible with software DAW's.

All decent music that's coming off of a piece of hardware whether it's a music workstation or an MPC or whatever, eventually needs to get put into a DAW so it can be taken to that next level, specifically a Pro Tools system.

You can't compare Fruity Loops to an MPC or a Workstation, period. It's just a basic piece of software that isn't on a professional level (yet). Where as the MPC and workstations like the Motif, are industry standard products.

Peace.

Believe me, I would love to have an MPC, Motif, SP1200, EPS, ASR10. But with Fruity Loops you can do similar functions. (Of course, like you said, FL is a toy compared to those. The quality is unmatchable).

How do you take a sample on an MPC and then get the pads to play different pitches of the sample? I know you can adjust Tone in Program, but how do you assign different pitches to different pads with the sample? Also how do you use the fader on the left to change the pitch of a pad while you play it? So you can do slides/portamento.

The only thing easier about FL Studio is Export all Tracks as WAV, Split Mixer Tracks. Since it's already digital it's easier to put into Pro Tools. But I see what you're saying about how you can't compare them. You can't compare the quality.

On another note: Don't you think the MPC is a sort of accidental genious? Not really accidental genious, but I definitely think Robert Linn is a heavily right minded side of the brain person. Because a lot of the technical things make absolutely no sense, but once you start to learn it, creatively it makes all the sense in the world.

 

[MAC WE$TERN]

good lookin out BooBoo and Mr Samos for the you wa shock help. Now what am i supposed to do with this? lol. I dont really mess with all the other stuff on this program. I just make beats with it.

 

[Sick Wid It]

Don't you think the MPC is a sort of accidental genious? Not really accidental genious, but I definitely think Robert Linn is a heavily right minded side of the brain person.

All my MPCs say Roger Linn on them. Damn, I must have bought the chinese bootleg versions.

 

[City Situation]

^ Haha my bad. It is roger haha.

 

[DFresh77]

so Mr. Samos..

give me a list of what you recommend to start off as a "home producer"?

 

[BOOBOO619]

good lookin out BooBoo and Mr Samos for the you wa shock help. Now what am i supposed to do with this? lol. I dont really mess with all the other stuff on this program. I just make beats with it.

Well that plugin is a multiband compressor/limiter. So you have to load it in the FX mixer of Fruity Loops, just like I said. Put it on your main master channel. Well as soon as you load the plugin, you will notice an immediate difference in sound quality, it'll bring your track out with more thump and clearity. I would stick to using more subtle settings on the knob, anywhere from 25-50%. You can turn the knob more, but it might start messing with the dynamics of the track. I would consider this plugin to be like a quick, lazy, mastering plugin.