If you live in California, Utah or Nevada....

[I AM]

Because I spoke to some people SPECIFICALLY about certain events in PM before it happened. Does the siccness keep an archive of PM's like they do of old posts? If so how can I dig em up?

I don't think that they do keep them archived once you delete them from your box.

Any new predictions?

Googling the Mayan stuff pretty much brought up the same links for both searches...this was somewhat interesting: http://www.13moon.com/prophecy page.htm

 

[HERESY]

Don't google the Mayan long calendar end-date on Google, you'll just get a bunch of matches to places with conflicting information and amateur "studies". I know quite a bit about the 2012 End date and have read 2 books devoted to it. John Jenkins (the #1 authority on the subject and author of the best book on it, Maya Cosmogenesis) as well as other leading scientists in the field have all reported that there is no proof or sign that any natural physical changes will occur on the planet Earth itself. They aren't saying there "wont" be either, but it seems like you're missing the whole point of the end date. The end date is a shift in human consciousness as a whole, as we move into the 5th age of the human race's timescale. The 4th age is ending in 2012, and has been deemed the 'technological' age, which makes sense.

The change will be a psychological and social shift on a grand-scale. The "ends" of all of the previous Maya calendar long counts (which equals about 5125 years) have been fairly strongly theorized to have all ended in similar ways and global transitions throughout humanity have occurred more strongly during this phase.

It's not like on December 21'st of 2012 there is going to be a massive earthquake, solar flares, tsunamis, and everything else going crazy. That makes absolutely no scientific sense and the Maya would never, ever claim something to be along those lines, whether or not they are 'scientific' themselves. Whatever is going to happen is going to happen in a transitioning "shift", a sped up process that could be compared to evolution in mechanism, and it's going to happen on a global scale.


That's all. There's nothing to worry about here.
We should worry more about the San Andreas faultline *still* building up to undergo a violent reaction, than we should about the Mayan end date.

Thank you for the info, and if they follow my instructions they will find a more detailed explanation when they google it and click on the fourth link.

 

[Psilo707]

Oh for sure... that site always comes through with the real hard facts. Everyone should read up on that if they are even a little bit interested

 

[HERESY]

bibliogrphy info

Brotherston, Gordon. The Book of the Fourth World. Cambridge University Press. 1992.

Edmonson, Munro. The Book of the Year. University of Utah Press, Salt Lake City, Utah. 1988.

EZCosmos. Astrosoft, Inc. DeSoto, Texas. 1990.

Jenkins, John Major. Tzolkin: Visionary Perspectives and Calendar Studies. Borderlands Science and Research Foundation. Garberville, CA. 1994.

Mayan Calendrics. Dolphin Software. 48 Shattuck Square #147, Berkeley, CA. 94704. 1989 &1993.

Meeus, Jean. Astronomical Tables of the Sun, Moon and Planets. Willmann- Bell Publishers. Richmond, VA. 1983.

Michelsen, Neil F. The American Ephemeris for the 21st Century. ACS Publications. San Diego, CA. 1982, 1988.

Ridpath, Ian (ed.). Norton's 2000.0: Star Atlas and Reference Handbook. Longman Group UK Limited. 1989.

Schele, Linda and Freidel, David. A Forest of Kings: The Untold Story of the Ancient Maya. William Morrow and Company, Inc. New York. 1990.

Schele, Linda; Freidel, David; Parker, Joy. Maya Cosmos: Three Thousand Years on the Shaman's Path. William Morrow and Company, Inc. New York. 1993.

Tedlock, Dennis. The Popol Vuh: The Definitive Edition of the Mayan Book of the Dawn of Life and the Glories of Gods and Kings. Simon & Schuster. New York. 1985


http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html <---hit it.

 

[Hemp]

Don't google the Mayan long calendar end-date on Google, you'll just get a bunch of matches to places with conflicting information and amateur "studies". I know quite a bit about the 2012 End date and have read 2 books devoted to it. John Jenkins (the #1 authority on the subject and author of the best book on it, Maya Cosmogenesis) as well as other leading scientists in the field have all reported that there is no proof or sign that any natural physical changes will occur on the planet Earth itself. They aren't saying there "wont" be either, but it seems like you're missing the whole point of the end date. The end date is a shift in human consciousness as a whole, as we move into the 5th age of the human race's timescale. The 4th age is ending in 2012, and has been deemed the 'technological' age, which makes sense.The change will be a psychological and social shift on a grand-scale. The "ends" of all of the previous Maya calendar long counts (which equals about 5125 years) have been fairly strongly theorized to have all ended in similar ways and global transitions throughout humanity have occurred more strongly during this phase.

It's not like on December 21'st of 2012 there is going to be a massive earthquake, solar flares, tsunamis, and everything else going crazy. That makes absolutely no scientific sense and the Maya would never, ever claim something to be along those lines, whether or not they are 'scientific' themselves. Whatever is going to happen is going to happen in a transitioning "shift", a sped up process that could be compared to evolution in mechanism, and it's going to happen on a global scale.


That's all. There's nothing to worry about here.
We should worry more about the San Andreas faultline *still* building up to undergo a violent reaction, than we should about the Mayan end date.

u got everything right except for the info about the 4th world ending in 2012.
the 4th world has ended in 1988, and we are currently in between worlds. A time of revelations where truth about government, religion, humanity will come out.
the 5th world begins in 12-21-12
you know about the 5th world being a cosmic consciousness right?
and about time speeding up until it becomes meaningless.
read up on the earths heartbeat and you will see its been speedin up since 1988. look at the earths magnetic changes.

also, in 12-21-12 is when we enter the age of the aquarius.
a feminine energy will take over.

also, alot of the changes on earth will be comming from the sun and the changes there.
read about the alignments of the planets on 12-21-12, including our sun being in the center of our galaxy at that date.
read about solar flares being their highest ever, weather on earth being hottest ever, and well, look around.

this post is for all, not just psilo

 

[inphxerno]

Wow Homie, Thats Some Trippy Stuff, By Cosmic consciousness you mean?


<-tard

 

[Hemp]

Collective unconscious is a term of analytical psychology, and was originally coined by Carl Jung. He distinguished the collective unconscious from the personal unconscious, which is particular to each human being. The collective unconscious refers to that part of a person's unconscious which is common to all human beings. It contains archetypes, which are forms or symbols that are manifested by all people in all cultures. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Consciousness

^thats the closest our old age science can understand about anything having to do with consciousness.

 

[Psilo707]

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[Psilo707]

u got everything right except for the info about the 4th world ending in 2012.
the 4th world has ended in 1988, and we are currently in between worlds. A time of revelations where truth about government, religion, humanity will come out.
the 5th world begins in 12-21-12
you know about the 5th world being a cosmic consciousness right?
and about time speeding up until it becomes meaningless.
read up on the earths heartbeat and you will see its been speedin up since 1988. look at the earths magnetic changes.

also, in 12-21-12 is when we enter the age of the aquarius.
a feminine energy will take over.

also, alot of the changes on earth will be comming from the sun and the changes there.
read about the alignments of the planets on 12-21-12, including our sun being in the center of our galaxy at that date.
read about solar flares being their highest ever, weather on earth being hottest ever, and well, look around.

this post is for all, not just psilo

The first half of your post is definitely good info and thanks for the fact that we are already 'transitioning' right now, I hadnt heard anywhere that they considered the previous age to have ended - especially since technology didnt come about in full form until the 1990's.


But Astronomy is one of my main thangs, and the 2nd half of your post has a lot of info to be corrected:

First thing, our solar system rests within the fully *outer* layer of the Milky Way Galaxy, and it can never, ever change position. Not even a Supermassive Black Hole could move us from our 'ratio' to the center of the milky way. The sun is over 26,000 light years from the center of the Milky Way, which by the way is mainly the constellation of Sagittarius. The star "Sag A" has been confirmed as the nearest possible spot to the exact center, though obviously the EXACT center is a dormant black hole in a resting state.

You can check NASA's (shitty) website for official confirmation but here is a pic from another site that basically shows our current location:

As for time speeding up, that's a very vague statement and Im pretty sure Einstein already gave us most of the info we need on that. As the universe expands, space-time itself is stretching at every point where it exists, and this creates a less quantified state in the overall scheme of things. We will never "feel" time get faster.. time can never change. The second will always be "the second". It would be better to say that the 'space' dimension is speeding up and therefore affecting the time dimension very heavily.. instead of saying time itself goes faster.


btw sorry for almost turning this into a physics post, but i guess its relevant if there is info going around about 2012 that needs to be corrected before it happens.

 

[Psilo707]

Ok Hemp I just re-read a couple things in my book here and I realize the reason why you were talking about us being in the "center".

On 12/21/2012, our galactic center will be ALIGNING with the exact 'path' of the solstice (aka sunrise,sunset, for us).

Read this here and youll see what I mean:
http://survive2012.com/why_2012_alignment.php

Its not our location, but our parallels, that become 'centered' with each other.

 

[inphxerno]

Porn?

 

[Hemp]

Ok Hemp I just re-read a couple things in my book here and I realize the reason why you were talking about us being in the "center".

On 12/21/2012, our galactic center will be ALIGNING with the exact 'path' of the solstice (aka sunrise,sunset, for us).

Read this here and youll see what I mean:
http://survive2012.com/why_2012_alignment.php

Its not our location, but our parallels, that become 'centered' with each other.

nice find.

Our galaxy has a centre which all the stars take millions of years to revolve around, and it is located in the starriest part of the Milky Way, as seen from Earth. On four occasions within the 25,800-year cycle our galactic centre aligns with the sunrise of a solstice or equinox. The last time it occurred was on a fall equinox 6,450 years ago, approximately the dawn of Old World civilisations. On Dec 21, 2012, which is a winter solstice (Northern Hemisphere) this centre will align with our sun once more. Jenkins presents a mass of astrological, monumental and mythological evidence to show the importance of this event for the Maya, and how their calendar runs out on this day for a reason. Unfortunately he is not sure what that reason is&#8230;His book mentions:

a door into the heart of space and time will open[1]

the cosmos will be reborn or recreated[2]

we will reach the Zero Point of the process - a moment of collective spiritual birth[3]

&#8220;&#8230;our basic orientations will be inverted. On the level of human civilization, our basic assumptions and foundation values will be exposed, and we will have the opportunity to embrace values long since driven under the surface of our collective consciousness&#8221;[4]


&#8220;On a literal level of interpretation, one supported by many popular writers, the field-effect reversal that mystics and futurists intuitively feel occurring on this planet bodes an impending pole shift, a literal shift in the position of the Earth's North Celestial Pole, an event that would have disastrous effects around the globe&#8230; I suppose there is not much we can do about it... I prefer to emphasize what might be termed a pole shift in our collective psyche. This places the possibility of successful, positive transformation squarely in our own hands.&#8221;[5

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the poles have already been inverting, especially around south america. i seen this on a documentary about the bermuda triangle and they showed a chart of an opening of the north pole but in the region of the south pole. and they showed a time frame of it expanding.

but this too is a cycle of earth, and the earth has been overdue for some while.
weird how all these cycles come together, almost as if theres something big happening.

btw, excuse my broken english, im workin on it.

 

[mouth_my_nuts]

This thread just got really interesting, you guys should open a new thread on this subject. I remember watching a documentary about the mayan calender and how their calendar ends in 2012, theres alot of "phrases" I'm having trouble understanding but you guys should start a new thread so every1 can learn about this.

 

[Hemp]

oh yeah about about Time speeding up.
well since we know that time is subjective and relative then how it speeds up is by life on earth speeding up.
we might not notice any of it because its all relative.

 

[inphxerno]

*opens up Google Translator*

 

[Psilo707]

^ you in the wrong forum if any info in this thread went over your head


shit i dont even frequent this forum that much and ive been here for years. but i know when i come here i better have my shit straight if i post.. lol

 

[ReKz]

oh yeah about about Time speeding up.
well since we know that time is subjective and relative then how it speeds up is by life on earth speeding up.
we might not notice any of it because its all relative.

Here's recent (and interesting) article on Time:

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/in-no-time/article_view?b_start:int=0&-C=

 

[inphxerno]

I Had Read On This Before, But Then the Time Thing Fucked Me Up

 

[inphxerno]

Gangster Heresy Said " Watch Ya Back Niggaz!!!! " Some Laugh and Some Ask " Whats Gonna Happen My Ninja " And Heresy Like " Just Get Ready Homies " And Then Im Like " Yo Whaddabout Those Indian Guys In Thongs? " And Then We Started Talking A Bout Them

 

[BIGSBY]

Lol, Its Funny I never post in the GOM forum.
But i was going through new posts like usual and saw this.
Figured I'd check it, good thing i did.
I might be young but im not stupid, Ill take a warning when given.