If 50 Cent sign a Norteno Rapper?
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i dissagree....completely....its not the fact nortenoz arent on the level to go mainstream or nothing...its the fact they choose not to...u can rap without talkin bout kill a skrap norte norte norte...i mean dont get me wrong i love norteno rap...but i mean that bitch lil rob gets radio play...why? because he keeps his music and his gang life on 2 seperate situations...u can rap and then go kill a skrap...but does it have to be mentioned in every track? thats my opinion
no i gotta agree most northern rappers ive heard with the exception of a few just arent all around great artists...(and this goes for underground cali rappers in general)
alotta these cats just arent well rounded..they dont have a good delivery..wordplay..they havent mastered the art of rappin they just put some raps together and spit um..they dont know breath control and shit like that..they dont hit there bars smooth on the beat....just overall they not polished..a few examples of artists i think actually are well rounded from the Northern category..Shadow...Woodie....even big Tone.....but for the most part this is my opinion
alotta these cats just arent well rounded..they dont have a good delivery..wordplay..they havent mastered the art of rappin they just put some raps together and spit um..they dont know breath control and shit like that..they dont hit there bars smooth on the beat....just overall they not polished..a few examples of artists i think actually are well rounded from the Northern category..Shadow...Woodie....even big Tone.....but for the most part this is my opinion
2 be honezt chit i'd sign on da dotted line 4 a mill any body on thiz bitch would sign u gotta be about da dumbezt perzon 2 pazz up on a million n dat aint countin da money u going 2 be makein off cd salez n radio play it dont matter if yo chit weak niggaz will buy it up juzt cuz u in g-unit look at bankz he aint all that tight but with 50'z help he blow up 50'z a maztermind juzt look what he did 4 da game so juzt think off da thingz he can do 4 a homie niggaz will blow up dont get me wrong i think he sold out big time but chit who da fuck wouldnt sell out 4 all da money he got n iz makein "EVERY BODY IN THIZ BITCH WOULD SELL OUT " n thatz real azz fuck u can say u wouldnt but with that much money in yo face u would be gone n not think twice bout yo rep on da streetz u'd be rich n we'll still be poor tryin 2 make endz meet thatz juzt life niggaz cant be mad at u 4 it cuz niggaz would do it 2 anit no if'z or but'z about it every one would sell out
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FACT #1
CURTIS DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT A NORTE IS
FACT #2
NORTE MUSIC DONT APEAL TO BLAKE AND THEO IN MONTANA....OK THEY MIGHT GET A WOODIE CD CASE HE IS HELLA LIGHT SKINED!!!!!....AND HE WAS FEAT. ON THE GOTTI'S SHOW,.....HAY WOOD,...JUST ONE MORE SEASON OF THEM BRATS AND YOU GOT THE SHOW OPEN TO SYNDACATION,.....HOPE THAT MEANS PAPPER FOR YOU,...YEAH I BEEN WATCHING ,....
FACT #4
COME ON MANNNNNNNN,...IF SUR RAP IS GETTING AIR TIME,...YOU THINK HE WOULD WANNA TAKE THAT KINDA RISK,.....KNOW THE GAME,...AND I DONT MEAN THE ASS PLUG THAT TURNED HIS BACK ON THE BAY WOULD YOU LIKE TO BUY A BRIDGE FROM ME?
FACT #4
NORTE RAP HAS NO "SUPERSTARS",....
WOOD THINK YOU CAN JUICE UP LIKE CURTIS DID AND HAVE ALL THOSE LIL WHITE GIRLS WANTING YOUR BODY LIKE A BROTHA WANTS A JOB?
FACT #1
CURTIS DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT A NORTE IS
FACT #2
NORTE MUSIC DONT APEAL TO BLAKE AND THEO IN MONTANA....OK THEY MIGHT GET A WOODIE CD CASE HE IS HELLA LIGHT SKINED!!!!!....AND HE WAS FEAT. ON THE GOTTI'S SHOW,.....HAY WOOD,...JUST ONE MORE SEASON OF THEM BRATS AND YOU GOT THE SHOW OPEN TO SYNDACATION,.....HOPE THAT MEANS PAPPER FOR YOU,...YEAH I BEEN WATCHING ,....
FACT #4
COME ON MANNNNNNNN,...IF SUR RAP IS GETTING AIR TIME,...YOU THINK HE WOULD WANNA TAKE THAT KINDA RISK,.....KNOW THE GAME,...AND I DONT MEAN THE ASS PLUG THAT TURNED HIS BACK ON THE BAY WOULD YOU LIKE TO BUY A BRIDGE FROM ME?
FACT #4
NORTE RAP HAS NO "SUPERSTARS",....
WOOD THINK YOU CAN JUICE UP LIKE CURTIS DID AND HAVE ALL THOSE LIL WHITE GIRLS WANTING YOUR BODY LIKE A BROTHA WANTS A JOB?
i have to disagree here a little... i think a lot of norteno rappers have the potential to succeed in a mainstream environment, but there's a certain stigma in the music industry that makes it incredibly difficult to break out in that fashion. shit, in my personal opinion, i think that the homeboy Woodie is one of the dopest to ever drop and as a lyricist is above 99.99% of cats in the game right now. when Demonz N My Sleep first dropped on Koch in 2001, i believe, i expected to see him blow the fuck up everywhere an i was a little suprised when he didn't, at least not to the degree that i anticipated. the thing is, the mainstream charts are being burned up by club hits and whatnot, and unless you're dropping crossover jams like that, it's hard to get majors to take you seriously. of all hiphop music in America, 65% is purchased by hispanic females between the ages of 14 and 30 (this is true, some of boys DJ at some of the top stations in the central valley and these are the demographics collected by Clear Channel, etc.), so unless you're putting out music to appeal directly to that fan base, you're pretty much strating out with a strike against you.
in a perfect world the music would speak for itself and true talent would be recognized for what it truly is. however, this is not a perfect world, and sadly many truly talented artists are slept on and will probably continue to be slept until a major shift in listening/buying trends change. again, in my opinion, i think that the majority of the stuff i hear on the radio is crap. 50 cent and lil jon and all them ARE NOT THAT TALENTED, but they all have major backing so in spite of everything they are pretty much destined to succeed.
now, as far going as going mainstream is concerned, i don't think that it makes you a sellout. what you do after going mainstream, however, can make you a sellout. if you can maintain and stay true to yourself and what you hope to accomplish, and make some serious skrill at is, then do your thing homie and watch the chips stack up, but, if you switch up your style and burn your bridges to make a buck, then guess what, you've stepped across the line and it's damn near impossible to go back. i'm all for artists signing with someone bigger to get their name out there so that they can eventually branch off and do their own thing, provided they keep it real to the best of their ability in the process. the way i look at it is, when in Rome do as they Romans; when you're in your house, do what the fuck you wanna do
its not how much skillz you have or how tight you are or even how tight your beats are...its how well you put togeather an album! most "norteno" rappers dont know how to make a song. most "norteno" rappers do everything themselves or have their homies do shit for them for little or no cost. im not saying its bad because their is alot of money to be made and their is a market for it. but when you go shopping for a major deal they look for the total package. the look for the next hit. their looking for the next hot single! they look for quality in sound and production, they look for how marketable you are, they look for artists that can make them money. can a "norteno" rapper go mainstreem? yes! can he bang norte in his songs and get on the radio? yes!
but he cant do it with beats made by dj joe blow on his new phantom he just got last year. he cant do it with songs that are recorded in a basement or room with no sound proof booth or sound control. tight lyrics, catchy hooks, knockin beats, quality recording and a marketable product will get you signed no matter what you clame or where your from. i seen motha fuckas get major deals, i seen motha fuckas loose major deals. ive kicked it with a&r's from priority, interscope, universal, avatar, mca and many others and they all told me the same shit. you gotta be able to make a million before the will give you a million. you gotta prove you can make back the 100,00 dollers a region that the majors will spend on your project. if not you gotta make them beleave you can make them a gold or platnum album. and you cant just make 1 radio hit and think thats good enough. the majors want at least 5 songs that can be singles. it alot of shit you gotta go throught to get signed, but if you got the right cash behind you like lil rob, you can buy your way on the radio you can buy major distribution you just gotta know how to go about it and you gotta spend alot of money in the right spots. their is alot more to cover but i dont feel like gettin into it. just some food for thought.
but he cant do it with beats made by dj joe blow on his new phantom he just got last year. he cant do it with songs that are recorded in a basement or room with no sound proof booth or sound control. tight lyrics, catchy hooks, knockin beats, quality recording and a marketable product will get you signed no matter what you clame or where your from. i seen motha fuckas get major deals, i seen motha fuckas loose major deals. ive kicked it with a&r's from priority, interscope, universal, avatar, mca and many others and they all told me the same shit. you gotta be able to make a million before the will give you a million. you gotta prove you can make back the 100,00 dollers a region that the majors will spend on your project. if not you gotta make them beleave you can make them a gold or platnum album. and you cant just make 1 radio hit and think thats good enough. the majors want at least 5 songs that can be singles. it alot of shit you gotta go throught to get signed, but if you got the right cash behind you like lil rob, you can buy your way on the radio you can buy major distribution you just gotta know how to go about it and you gotta spend alot of money in the right spots. their is alot more to cover but i dont feel like gettin into it. just some food for thought.
IT WOULDNT HAPPEN REGARDLESS IF UR A SURENO OR A NORTENO... WHO WANTS TO HEAR A "CHICANO" GO MAINSTREAM??? NO ONE... SURENO AND NORTENO RAP IS NUTTIN BUT A BIG FUCKIN JOKE IN THIS RAP INDUSTRY... WHILE OUR RAPPERS STRUGGLE JUST TO GET BY... THEYRE LIVIN LIKE KINGS... NIGGERS GOT THIS RAP GAME ON LOCK... A "CHICANO" OR LATINO PERIOD WILL NEVER HOLD THE CROWN AND THATS THE SAD THING ABOUT IT
OF COURSE NIGGERS CREATED RAP... BUT IF A WHITE BOY CAN COME UP IN THIS GAME... Y CANT A "CHICANO"... ONLY LATINOS THAT GET RECOGNIZED R PUERTO RICANS... CAUSE THEYRE JUST LIKE FUCKIN NIGGERS... DIDNT EVEN ONCE CLAIM TO BE PUERTO RICAN... BUT EVER SINCE THAT REGGAETON SHIT CAME OUT... THEYRE ALL PROUD OF BEIN LATINO... AND THATS STUPID... MAJORITY OF CHICANO RAP IS BETTER THAN THAT NIGGER SHIT... BUT STILL OUR RAPPERS WONT GET RECOGNIZED FOR THE TALENT THAT OUR RAPPERS HAVE
that attitude right there is y it wont happen. no1 ever thought hip hop / rap period would make it but it did...y because their is money to be made. and their is alot of money to be made in chicano rap but chicanos hold themselves back...just callin it chicano rap segragates it from other rap. chicano rap (norteno and sureno) has a bad rep for being low quality garbage. until chicanos change that sterotype than "chicano rappers" wont make it. 1 quality, marketable chicano album with major backing can do that. all chicano rappers north and south need to step it up. but it can and will happen!
TRUE... BUT WHAT OUR RAPPERS NEED TO DO IS LEAVE ALL THAT GANG SHIT OUTTA THEIR SONGS... ITS COO TO HAVE THAT SHIT ON SOME SONGS... BUT WHO WANTS TO HEAR THAT SHIT... NO ONE BUT US... QUE NO??? WE HAVE THE TALENT TO BLOW UP IN THIS GAME... AND I KNOW UR GONNA LAUGH WHEN I SAY THIS... BUT LIL ROB IS HELPIN OPEN UP THE DOORS IN THIS CHICANO RAP GAME... NO ONE IN CHICANO RAP HISTORY HAS EVER GOTTEN SO MUCH RADIO PLAY ALL OVER THE U.S... DR. DRE WANTS TO SIGN LIL ROB AND SO DOES FAT JOE... BUT HE WONT TAKE NONE OF THEIR OFFERS... LIL ROB DOESNT REALLY HAVE THAT MUCH TALENT... BUT HE GOT FIRME HOOKS THAT MAKE THE SONG A HIT FOR SOME REASON... HES SHOT A VIDEO WITH PITBULL... AND JUST RECENTLY SHOT ANOTHER VIDEO THAT WILL BE AIRED ON MTV AND BET PRETTY SOON... BUT ANYWAYZ... "CHICANOS" WILL BECOME PART OF THE "RAP/HIP HOP" ERA ONE OF THESE DAYZ... AND HOPEFULLY SOON
true lil rob is opening doors for all chicano rappers, north and south, but at the same time hes just adding to the typical "cholo" sterotype that says all mexicans only rap for mexicans. not true. all that "nigger" talk is nonsence because we have black mexicanos in mexico. but back to topic... you can bang in your music as long as you dont over do it and do it right...quality is the mutha fucken key! lil rob got cool raido friendly beats but wack ass lyrics. any chicano that does music wit black people, alot of chicanos call em "nigger lovers" that shit is just childish. get over it make good music and make that money. if 50 cent were to sign me...depends on the contract.