I Believe There Is A Church Here

[SeriouslyThug]

=What?+Does it not, isn't that the first most important thing of a Church? Didn't Paul say he went to the people of Greece first because it was easier because they already had gods and knew of things he was talking about?

bro what you guys are for some very odd and mysterious reason failing to understand is that your rationalization of your beliefs is starting from the bible.

You are for some reason unable to see that 'A is true because B is true, B is true because A is true" is NOT a logical or rational argument.

In the quran it says that the quran is the word of god. So if you go to a muslim and ask him how does he know that the quran is the word of god, and he says 'because it says so in the quran' says nothing and adds nothing to the discussion.

You must question the claims a things makes about itself. You cannot say 'oh what it says must be true because it says that everything it says is true'

are you following this 101 logic still??

So to go back to your response, you cannot defend the bible by saying "didn't Paul say so n so in the bible??"
Your circular logic is the death of your comprehension. It is not real logic dude. You are not really thinking or computing or figuring anything out.

you are merely parroting things someone else put into your head

 

[StillHustlin]

are these books so to say where the style of the new testament came from or the story itself? I would like to know more about this direction where this might take me off to? I only like to know more about what i'm reading before I read it.

This IS the real New Testament, written in 75 A.D. by Flavius Josephus (research him). Granted the English version is translated in the 19th Century. Everything being attirbuted to disciples and all that other nonsense is a lie. The New Testament was derived from this original work from 75 A.D. Saying it doesn't matter is accepting the lies that have been fed for centuries.

It's also quite ironic about your last statement there isn't it? You have accepted a Bible as the word of some god without knowing more about it before reading it.

At the end of the day, believe what you want, but please know that it is people like you that hold us back as a society. Nothing will ever change until people get their minds right and the truth is they have been conditioned for so long I think some sort of switch has been turned off in those people's DNA, therefore they continue to breed the same offspring.

 

[Danger Manye]

@SeriouslyThug

Oh why the bible is true Hmmm I've thought long hours to this tho

The LORD spoke to Moses
He told Moses that there would be "Prophets" and He would put His words in their mouths that they would speak to the people
Then them Prophets came and prophesied stuff that happened and even Lord coming that Jesus would come unto earth one day (his name was prophesied as Yehoshua which means Yeshua or Joshua)
So to did one of the Old Testament Prophets Jeremiah prophesy that there would be a New Covenant proving the validation of the Apostles
So Lord Jesus came and fulfilled the prophecy and all of the Law of Moses Like 600 Years After The Last Old Testament Book Was Written
Then another Old Testament Prophecy that was fulfilled was Paul the messenger who came to preach to the Gentiles setting up the Churches

So I read the bible and I believe it really doesn't start speaking to the New Covenant (Or New Creation As I Believed They're Called) Till After Jesus Dies, Before all that he was Jewish and there was no New Covenant yet. I believe up until he dies we must look at it like a part of the Old Testament. I don't know if anyone agrees with me but that is how I feel after I have read it so many times.

There is Law and Freedom In Christ and so many times have I read that Jesus was fulfilling the Jews Law. But Paul came unto us "ALL" to preach now that we have Freedom in Him.

So to what I said the Freedom now which may have made the Epistles different and maybe even the Gospels than the rest of the Bible (Old Testament) in that it may or may not have had the Law rest of authority over it as scripture but was so because it was of God fully (a True Love Letter to save people from the worst torture and agony of "hell" and give them best place of all time "heaven...") & ( Full of truth that it was the Apostles that they are a step higher than all the Prophets that words of the Lord came from their mouths and the greatest in knowledge of their time.)


As Far As Physical Proof: I watched videos of the Under Water Chariots Of The Red Sea & The Place Of Mt. Sinai, I Watched Videos Of The Burnt Cities Of Sodom And Gomorrah, I Watched A New Video On The Palace Of King David, I've Even Believe The Video Of The Stigmata Of Pablo Pia.


(I don't want you to dislike us or hate me at that even, but in all just really thought maybe somewhere you thought maybe something in it of it all was cool:classic:

Edit: The Best Physical Proof Is To Have YHWY Come Onto You As The Spirit Of The Lord, From There You Will Know You Are Being Tested And He Is Far From Any Of The Other Spirits.

 

[SeriouslyThug]

@SeriouslyThug

Oh why the bible is true Hmmm I've thought long hours to this tho

The LORD spoke to Moses

hold up...HOW do you know this information?

So I read the bible and I believe it really doesn't start speaking to the New Covenant (Or New Creation As I Believed They're Called) Till After Jesus Dies, Before all that he was Jewish and there was no New Covenant yet. I believe up until he dies we must look at it like a part of the Old Testament. I don't know if anyone agrees with me but that is how I feel after I have read it so many times.

You do understand that there is no such thing as a "New Covenant" as you say, to the people you are trying to convince, right??
they do not believe in the bible, so how could you start talking about something such as a so-called 'New Covenant" when such a concept comes from the bible and its worldview???

There is Law and Freedom In Christ and so many times have I read that Jesus was fulfilling the Jews Law. But Paul came unto us "ALL" to preach now that we have Freedom in Him.

until you can give credence to some guy called Paul, you cannot use his own words to make him relevant
you can't "paul says so n so because paul says so n so"
Are you still struggling to understand where your circular logic is worthless to a real discussion??

So to what I said the Freedom now which may have made the Epistles different and maybe even the Gospels than the rest of the Bible (Old Testament) in that it may or may not have had the Law rest of authority over it as scripture but was so because it was of God fully (a True Love Letter to save people from the worst torture and agony of "hell" and give them best place of all time "heaven...") & ( Full of truth that it was the Apostles that they are a step higher than all the Prophets that words of the Lord came from their mouths and the greatest in knowledge of their time.)

"a True Love Letter" says WHO?? the fucking love letter itself? why are you so fucking dense dude?
Do you see how faulty your testament is?? any other religion with their own book can apply the same logic to their own religion and nobody would get anywhere....
seriously what the fuck?

As Far As Physical Proof: I watched videos of the Under Water Chariots Of The Red Sea & The Place Of Mt. Sinai, I Watched Videos Of The Burnt Cities Of Sodom And Gomorrah, I Watched A New Video On The Palace Of King David, I've Even Believe The Video Of The Stigmata Of Pablo Pia.

post those videos and let us see if they hold any credibility or if you have merely given them credibility solely because they validate YOUR beliefs.

(I don't want you to dislike us or hate me at that even, but in all just really thought maybe somewhere you thought maybe something in it of it all was cool:classic:

Edit: The Best Physical Proof Is To Have YHWY Come Onto You As The Spirit Of The Lord, From There You Will Know You Are Being Tested And He Is Far From Any Of The Other Spirits.

I don't dislike or hate people for no reason. If you are saying that the best proof is the lord coming to me and showing me, then you are saying that I have no chance to get to heaven because he hasn't done so.
So not only was I born to the wrong creed, but due to the circumstances that HE created me in, I shall never find the truth, and not only that, but I must also burn in hell for eternity because of the circumstances he had created me in??
seriously? and this god is worthy of worship?? I wouldn't send anybody to hell for eternity fucking up a 70 year lifespan , aren't I more divine than your own so-called god?

 

[Smiley650Agony]

If you are saying that the best proof is the lord coming to me and showing me, then you are saying that I have no chance to get to heaven because he hasn't done so.

If you feel you don't Need God then why would he provide himself to you.
You act like you're looking for God with open arms. If you're driving 100mph with intentions of picking somebody up on the highway You have to slow down and look. They aren't just gonna pop up in your car.

 

[SeriouslyThug]

If you feel you don't Need God then why would he provide himself to you.
You act like you're looking for God with open arms. If you're driving 100mph with intentions of picking somebody up on the highway You have to slow down and look. They aren't just gonna pop up in your car.

dude stay out of this you keep assuming you know who i am or where I come from. You don't know anything about me. Keep your fairytales to yourself.

 

[WT SAVAGE]

there is no god, move along folks.

show me non photoshooped picture of god or any other "god."

if its a link to a wiki website or a youtube link (its automatically Photoshoped.) and not real and if its hand drawn well you see where im going with this...

 

[Smiley650Agony]

there is no god, move along folks.

show me non photoshooped picture of god or any other "god."

if its a link to a wiki website or a youtube link (its automatically Photoshoped.) and not real and if its hand drawn well you see where im going with this...

show me a picture of Gravity

 

[StillHustlin]

show me a picture of Gravity

What keeps you standing on Earth? When you throw a ball in the air what causes it to fall to the Earth again. Have you ever done these experiments or the math behind them..... Doesn't seem like it.

By the way that was a stupid question. Gravity is an actual force that has been proven through experimentation and observation- you can give it any name you like I suppose, but we have proof it exists. Meanwhile, 6 billion plus years later, God has never been proven.

Aye Smiley, if the Earth is a dome, why can't they (still) predict the severity of catastrophic weather events. When I shake a snow globe it's pretty damn predictable what will happen..... Hmm....

 

[Smiley650Agony]

What keeps you standing on Earth? When you throw a ball in the air what causes it to fall to the Earth again. Have you ever done these experiments or the math behind them..... Doesn't seem like it.

1. Nothing because the Earth is Flat. There is no force holding me down because Down is the only way I can Go because Im heavier than Air. If i was lighter than air I would just float.
2. If I throw a helium ball up in the air then it will keep going up because helium is less dense than air.


Gravity holds water on to ground level, but a butterfly is strong enough to fight the forces of gravity and fly around? lmao


"By the way that was a stupid question. Gravity is an actual force that has been proven through experimentation and observation- you can give it any name you like I suppose, but we have proof it exists. Meanwhile, 6 billion plus years later, God has never been proven.:

Einstein couldn't even prove gravity. It was still a DEBATE when he was alive. Its still a THEORY. The book "proving" gravity is 3 times thicker than the BIBLE. LMFAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA x100

 

[StillHustlin]

Thanks for answering my question- you have never performed the physics experiments that prove gravity exists.

Nuff said

 

[StillHustlin]

9.8m/s squared is scientific and mathematical fact.

 

[StillHustlin]

Yes, the two threads can be merged now.

Title should read Smiley's shitposting

 

[Hood Rat Matt]

I believe in miracles

 

[Smiley650Agony]

I believe in miracles

So do I. But some people are to into themselves to believe that something else is greater than them.
I didn't even mention the proof I HAVE of something greater than me and its automatically false because I'm too weak to believe in just myself LMAO

 

[StillHustlin]

I didn't even mention the proof I HAVE of something greater than me and its automatically false because I'm too weak to believe in just myself LMAO

Please enlighten us.

BTW none of us that don't agree with you on the topic doesn't mean we don't believe in something greater than ourselves. For instance I know that gravity is greater than myself. If I jump off a 10 story building I am likely not to survive and wouldn't want to. I know a a great white shark is greater than me if I'm swimming in the ocean and it wants to use his teeth to see wtf I am doing there. I know a car moving at practically any speed, hitting me head on while I'm walking is greater than me. There are many things greater than me and they can all be scientifically and mathematically proven. Does that mean everything in existence has been proven with science and math? Not necessarily, but what it does mean is that it eventually could be. Humans have been around for possibly millions of years and there has not been one shred of evidence of a God that certain people keep proclaiming..... This God, is a jealous God, remember, based on your book, it would not allow itself to not be without evidence if it were real. Beeleedat

 

[InfamousICON]

I believe in miracles

 

[Smiley650Agony]

Please enlighten us.

BTW none of us that don't agree with you on the topic doesn't mean we don't believe in something greater than ourselves. For instance I know that gravity is greater than myself. If I jump off a 10 story building I am likely not to survive and wouldn't want to.

Jump off with helium balloons attached to yourself

 

[Smiley650Agony]

Still Hustlin show me a satellite picture please.

 

[StillHustlin]

Jump off with helium balloons attached to yourself

If you do the math that calculates how much helium in balloons you need to float based on your body weight, sure it works. Again, it takes math and science to figure that out, comprende, not YouTube videos of people babbling after a meth binge