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[Lamberto Quintero]

Sorry I thought it was you who used the bank robber metaphor. And I'm not an illegal immigrant, I was actually born here. And I know what American Law says and doesnt say, why wasn't this a problem before? There could have always been terrorists coming through, they have always had the same "negative" affect on the economy. Why now? This is being done for something a lot bigger than the economy, people at the top are worried about our clashing cultures and the power we are gaining with so many numbers. And if it was the economy they were so worried about, why are they still pumping so much into Iraq? It's bigger than that my friend.

 

[surcaliman]

^^^Go eat a burrito fat fuck.

 

[Likwid]

IVE SEEN SOME PRETTY HEALTHY LOOKING MOTHERFUKERS EVERYWHERE STANDING ON CORNERS BEGGING FOR CHANGE RATHER THAN WORKING THESE JOBS. YOU KNOW HOW EASY IT IS TO GET A JOB WORKING THE FIELDS??

Lol what about them cat's off of N. Main and Boronda. That one crazy dude with long hair that stands in center divide dancing around wearing one of those witch wigs you would get at a haloween store. One dude hit me up when I was pumpin gas at the chevron, " you got any spare change?, I just need 6 more dollars so I can eat at the buffet. "

 

[gas uno]

Sorry I thought it was you who used the bank robber metaphor. And I'm not an illegal immigrant, I was actually born here. And I know what American Law says and doesnt say, why wasn't this a problem before? There could have always been terrorists coming through, they have always had the same "negative" affect on the economy. Why now? This is being done for something a lot bigger than the economy, people at the top are worried about our clashing cultures and the power we are gaining with so many numbers. And if it was the economy they were so worried about, why are they still pumping so much into Iraq? It's bigger than that my friend.

its always been a problem. shit aint new. bush just all the sudden decided he had a novel idea for it, like usual.

arnold should be dealing with that shit, personally. you cant trust a wild cowboy texan to do something compassionate. they have that "GO GET EM YEEHAW!" attitude.

slavery had always been a problem, too.. and one day someone stepped up like "you know what, this shit aint right man."

not that im equating illegal immigration to slavery though, because one group was forced on a plantation with shackles, and one group ran to the fucking plantation themselves.

you dont see me digging into the ground to find hell.
mexicans arent the only illegal immigrants in america, by the way.

everythings done for a bigger reason. its not like this is the first documented case of evil in america. is it right? no. does it happen? yes. welcome to the thunderdome.

look what happened to the native americans.

and its too late to blunt 'clashing cultures'....im not worried about iraq, thats a totally different conversation altogether and iraq has nothing to do with mexico nor the crossing of borders to find work. america pumps money into all types of shit, its ran by white folks who are inherantly evil. so like i said, injustice and evil isnt new.

you can say 'its not right' and shake your head all day but at the end of the day, you either hit the fly with the fly swatter or you lead it outside.

theres a part on training day where ethan hawke smokes pcp and is brought into the heroin dealers house, and the heroin dealer tells him that story about the doorstep..

its the bigwig deciding what to do with the "pest"...compassion isnt involved, extermination of a host, is.

sure its wrong. but thats just real. it happens to black folk on a different level/psyche, as well.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

My friend, Iraq has a lot do do with it, if the excuse for closing up the boarder is to save the economy. And the type of thinking you show is that which plagues this country and it's citizens, they know something is wrong yet they let it happen without doing anything to stop it. Who are you reffering to as the pests by the way?

And the marches show what we are capable of. The bottom line isnt that the government will eventually kick everyone out. The bottom line is we arent going anywhere, no matter what.

 

[gas uno]

My friend, Iraq has a lot do do with it, if the excuse for closing up the boarder is to save the economy. And the type of thinking you show is that which plagues this country and it's citizens, they know something is wrong yet they let it happen without doing anything to stop it. Who are you reffering to as the pests by the way?

And the marches show what we are capable of. The bottom line isnt that the government will eventually kick everyone out. The bottom line is we arent going anywhere, no matter what.

bush considers immigrants pests. *i'm* not referring to anything as pests.
and thats not gonna save the economy, its an exscuse, like you said yourself.

iraq has nothing to do with it because the war on iraq is a fluke to begin with.
and of course they know something is wrong. see, there you go bringing morality into evil again.

you think bush gives a fuck about a march? that nigga dont care bout yall illegal asses marchin'. if anything he looked at that shit as an oppurtunity to run all yall greencards on site and get it poppin that moment. and personally, i dont care if yall are kicked out or not, where your not going etc... shit dont make my blunt burn any quicker. i dont even follow laws.. its whatever to me.

im just saying it how i see it.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

You are right, morality cannot be brought into that evil.

And again, I am not illegal. There are Mexicans who are born here sir.

 

[gas uno]

man. im not saying youre illegal. lol
thats already been covered.

i just said 'yall illegal asses' in a stereotypical light. ie: all blacks are criminals, all middle easterns are terrorists, etc. going along with the american theme, here.. hate.

everyone that marched aint illegal, either. but i said bush probably looked at that as an oppurtunity to pop it off on all yall then and there.

i live in san diego and i can see mexico from my window at this very moment, i know the deal. shit, its not even an argument man...just a discussion. dont feel the need to be defensive..im not attacking.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

I just wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but I didnt take any offense to it, just making sure. I think the worst part about this whole thing is that people wont admit why they are doing this, and keep saying its for terrorism while Canada remains the same. And they keep saying its for the economy while the War in Iraq is where most of the money is going. It will be a terrible day when the government starts to really crack down on deporting these people, chances of a civil war exist with this.

 

[gas uno]

unfortunately, i feel bush follows through with threats. i can always sense the beginning of something happening.

how many wars can be fought at one time, though? and i wonder how many military personnel would sit down here with AK's and run green cards if it comes down to it? thats just fucked up thing to think about.

that would honestly, make california a police state. we'd need police and army personnel in the streets. mutha fuckas rioted in LA over one person bieng beat down. people riot over small things like a loss of a football game.

i really wouldnt want to see it happen, just because that would fuck off california harder than anything i can think of.

you know what the funny (not really) thing is? the actual wall of the border isnt even that huge. you could throw drugs over, if you wanted to.

a week or two ago three people climbed that bitch. actually climbed the damn wall.

 

[westbaygiant]

first off, id like to say, IT IS ILLEGAL TO BE HERE WITHOUT PAPERS,THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW...not hard to understand

and who the fuck is cree? my last girlfriend WAS mexican, i dont talk shit about blacks or mexicans, i have maybe one or two friends who are skinheads and i rarely kick it with them...so expose yourself you weiner sucking faggot

Damnnnnn..............This fool admits to kickin it with skinheads. Damnnnn......... Thats all the proof anyone needs from now on. If this fag j boeg has anything to say just quote him on this shit. And what the fuck is your need to up hold the law so fuckin bad. "ohh my god their breaking the law, awwwww" shut the fuck you you crying little bitch. If there was a law that said slap yourself in the face youd be the muthafuckin posterboy. On the commerical all stupid slapping yourself saying it tha LAW, awwwwww. fuckin skinhead nazi hitler loving little dick fag!!!!

 

[Defy]

I love it how as soon as someone mentions border everyone immediatly assumes mexicans....there are plenty of people from other countries coming to america to build that "better life"

the thing I don't get is since this country is built on immigration and racism, why are they focusing on stopping immigration first?

the bank robber analogy was just poor.....and what about the statute of limitations....would that be saying if a immigrant hides out for 10 or so years then they're in the clear?

I say deport bush....send him to any middle eastern country and put an actual president that came from the working class in office

 

[westbaygiant]

^^^^^^^
That would never happen. Ever. And its never happened in the history of the united states before. Just to run for president you need several million dollars. So that right there takes out the working class president idea out the window. every president ever in this country came from a rich wealthy familiy. Look it up!

 

[Ne Obliviscaris]

^um.... lincoln?

 

[Ne Obliviscaris]

youll learn all about him when you get to the seventh grade.

just fucking with you man.

 

[Defy]

^^^^^^^
That would never happen. Ever. And its never happened in the history of the united states before. Just to run for president you need several million dollars. So that right there takes out the working class president idea out the window. every president ever in this country came from a rich wealthy familiy. Look it up!

I know it'll never happen....but could you imagine it? what kind of massive change it would bring....they'd institute "trickle up" economics, minimum wage would sky rocket...the possibilities are endless....

 

[gimpypimp]

I love it how as soon as someone mentions border everyone immediatly assumes mexicans....there are plenty of people from other countries coming to america to build that "better life"

It wasn't assuming...he's the one who was talking about Mexicans.


"and dont call me racist...my last girlfriend was mexican and i play in a latino baseball league, so dont even start with all that"