HR457

J-Boeg · Apr 4, 2006

ok, i read this in the paper today, makes perfect sense to me...

many illegal immigrants come to this country for the opporutunity to live a better life and raise a family...however it IS illegal

the guy said this
"if a man robs a bank, but it is so his family can live better, does that make it right?"

and dont call me racist...my last girlfriend was mexican and i play in a latino baseball league, so dont even start with all that

and dont try to chime in with stuff like "they do work nobody else will do" because thats bullshit...nobody deserves free shit when REAL citizens are living on the streets

CCCUser925 · Apr 4, 2006

how you gonna compare a bank robbery with a latino/mexican working at a farm picking your fruits and vegetables?

J-Boeg..you're a fucking moron and a stupid fucking wannabe cop kid with no kind of knowledge....I hope you get shot when you become a cop..

"rookie cop shot in his asshole after a confrontation with a transexual hooker in downtown SF, the cause of his death is still sort of unknown. Coroners still have to pull out a bullet that went inside his butt-hole"

MEXCOM · Apr 4, 2006

J-Boeg said:

Ok, how about this:
The American Economy is sustained on Illegal labor.
1. No one will do the Agricultural jobs for the same price some of the illegals are doing it for.
2. If you paid illegals the "legal" minimum or "basic workers rights" then the price of vegetables and other crops would skyrocket quite possibly ending, or hampering, California's billion dollar economy.
3. If you stop ALL illegal immigration and legalize the illegal workers that are already in the country then what incentive would they have to work the fields? None, especially since with their new residential status they would then be able to get a job at another place.
4. Legal workers (ie those who are not predominantly of "hispanic" descent) are given the agricultural jobs the illegals had. The same thing would happen as with example 2.

Finally: No one gets ANYTHING for free. The illegal agricultural workers are pumping more money INTO the system than they are taking from it.

Nick470 · Apr 4, 2006

MEXICANCOMMANDO said:

Ok, how about this:
The American Economy is sustained on Illegal labor.
1. No one will do the Agricultural jobs for the same price some of the illegals are doing it for.
2. If you paid illegals the "legal" minimum or "basic workers rights" then the price of vegetables and other crops would skyrocket quite possibly ending, or hampering, California's billion dollar economy.
3. If you stop ALL illegal immigration and legalize the illegal workers that are already in the country then what incentive would they have to work the fields? None, especially since with their new residential status they would then be able to get a job at another place.
4. Legal workers (ie those who are not predominantly of "hispanic" descent) are given the agricultural jobs the illegals had. The same thing would happen as with example 2.

Finally: No one gets ANYTHING for free. The illegal agricultural workers are pumping more money INTO the system than they are taking from it.

DAMN SKIPPY!! :siccness:

westbaygiant · Apr 5, 2006

J-Boeg said:

ok, i read this in the paper today, makes perfect sense to me...

many illegal immigrants come to this country for the opporutunity to live a better life and raise a family...however it IS illegal

the guy said this
"if a man robs a bank, but it is so his family can live better, does that make it right?"

and dont call me racist...my last girlfriend was mexican and i play in a latino baseball league, so dont even start with all that

and dont try to chime in with stuff like "they do work nobody else will do" because thats bullshit...nobody deserves free shit when REAL citizens are living on the streets

Your a dumb ass. HR457 is the Organ Donor Leave Act . Get your fuckin facts straight you dumbass rasicts!!!!! Youd be the perfect cop!!!!

Nick470 · Apr 5, 2006

westbaygiant said:

hahaha..YEAH ITS HR4437 !! YA SABEN!!

Lamberto Quintero · Apr 5, 2006

J-Boeg said:

ok, i read this in the paper today, makes perfect sense to me...

many illegal immigrants come to this country for the opporutunity to live a better life and raise a family...however it IS illegal

the guy said this
"if a man robs a bank, but it is so his family can live better, does that make it right?"

and dont call me racist...my last girlfriend was mexican and i play in a latino baseball league, so dont even start with all that

and dont try to chime in with stuff like "they do work nobody else will do" because thats bullshit...nobody deserves free shit when REAL citizens are living on the streets

MENSO.

Chree · Apr 5, 2006

tuff luv said:

lol I know J BOEG this fool is from my city yadida, he fucks with them skinhead fools, i always heard this fool talkin shit bout mexicans and blacks, he gonna be the perfect cop lol @ last girlfriend was mexican y u gotta lie J? She aint mexican just cuz she can say a few words in spanish

MISTADON · Apr 5, 2006

J-Boeg said:

ok, i read this in the paper today, makes perfect sense to me...

many illegal immigrants come to this country for the opporutunity to live a better life and raise a family...however it IS illegal

the guy said this
"if a man robs a bank, but it is so his family can live better, does that make it right?"

and dont call me racist...my last girlfriend was mexican and i play in a latino baseball league, so dont even start with all that

and dont try to chime in with stuff like "they do work nobody else will do" because thats bullshit...nobody deserves free shit when REAL citizens are living on the streets

Comparing Illegal Immigrants to Bank Robbery is a bit of a slippery slope.

J-Boeg · Apr 5, 2006

first off, id like to say, IT IS ILLEGAL TO BE HERE WITHOUT PAPERS,THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW...not hard to understand

and who the fuck is cree? my last girlfriend WAS mexican, i dont talk shit about blacks or mexicans, i have maybe one or two friends who are skinheads and i rarely kick it with them...so expose yourself you weiner sucking faggot

COPIUM · Apr 5, 2006

J-Boeg said:

ahhahahahaha damn

gas uno · Apr 5, 2006

im with illegal immigrants staying here, cuz i dont really give a fuck either way...

but that whole "we do jobs you wont do" IS SUCH A FUCKING COPOUT.

i know alot of people who dont have jobs that are american citizens that would do those jobs. but they dont even get a chance to get those jobs if they wanted to do them, because all the hiring is internal and it goes to mexicans due to the fact they can pimp yall. now due to the fact were citizens, they have to pay atleast minimum wage, thats just law.

its not right, IMO. you cant just fucking assume people wouldnt do those jobs. theres alot of people in san diego that cannot get a job. ever look at our unemployment rate? thats why its so bad.

what would happen? more unemployed people in this country would have jobs. shitty jobs, sure..but you know what? THEY WOULD HAVE JOBS. and they would HAVE to raise the wages because the work has to get done.

its not cool for people who were born here to suffer on account. and sure youll say "then go to college so you can get the jobs we cant" but what if thats not the case? americans are starving and homeless too.

like if i need to go to work right now..so i hop in my car and start driving to work. a cop pulls me over and asks for my liscense..i say i dont have a liscense.. and i give him this long sobb story about my 4 kids and how i have to work to live and etc etc and he can see the pain in my face..does all that matter? no. im not legally allowed to do what im doing, and if i want to do it then maybe i should go take my driving test and legitimately be able to drive.

and yall aint legally allowed to work here, much less even be here.
become citizens. i mean mutha fuckas prolly paid 1200 to the mexican mafia to cross the border anyway. just do the shit legally and there wouldnt be a problem. cant do it legally? tough titty.

and just to reiterate..i dont care what happens...im just basing shit on US law, and not morality. because if morality played a part in US law we wouldnt be where we are today, now would we?

edit: and if the law dosent apply to illegal immigrants, you cant make them felons, because the american justice system shouldnt apply. now if they were felons by american law, and say you legally got the paperwork to live in america later on, you wouldnt get jobs anyway, due to the fact youre felons.

ahh, the joys of america.

gimpypimp · Apr 5, 2006

J-Boeg said:

Yeah, but you're comparing someone coming here and cleaning my house to robbing a bank.

Your skinhead friends may be rubbing off on you.....

BETO916 · Apr 5, 2006

J-Boeg said:

well then mister po-po, your first act as a policeman is to arrest your forefathers for coming over on the mayflower and fuckin' up the turf. those mother fuckers and their decendants have been here the longest WITHOUT PAPERS.....the whole southwest WAS MEXICO stupid ass, we just comin' back home, reclaiming our land this two-faced government stole from us.

instead of being a cop, why didn't you try to pick veggies, wash dishes, or do manual labor? are those jobs too hard for you, don't pay enough, or do you feel you're above doing that sort of work? if YOU won't do that shit, what makes you think the other lazy, spoiled fucks are gonna go out there and apply for those jobs? y'all mutha fuckas need to start showing these immigrants more respect.

while the media and government focuses it's attention on the border with Mexico, who knows who or what is comin' thru Canada. you don't hear people beefin' about the influx of Canadians comin' thru, or any other nationality for that matter.

the other day at the capitol, this fucker had the nerve to yell at school kids that were protesting, tellin' them "fuck you mexicans, go home." I spit in that fucker's face and told him, "we ARE home"

saladbowlking · Apr 5, 2006

IVE SEEN SOME PRETTY HEALTHY LOOKING MOTHERFUKERS EVERYWHERE STANDING ON CORNERS BEGGING FOR CHANGE RATHER THAN WORKING THESE JOBS. YOU KNOW HOW EASY IT IS TO GET A JOB WORKING THE FIELDS??

gas uno · Apr 5, 2006

theyre not gonna hire someone they have to pay more and set up w-2 forms and etc for.

i think thats the whole point.
cheaper drudging, on the employers behalf.

saladbowlking · Apr 5, 2006

I LIVE AROUND ALL AG LAND. THE PEOPLE INCLUDING ILLEGALS MAKE MINIMUM IF NOT MORE.

gas uno · Apr 5, 2006

i live 5 minutes from the mexican border.

the house i live in (which goes for 675,000 on the market right now) was built by illegal immigrants.

some jobs just aint 'open' for americans because the illegal immigrants have an internal hookup on that. the walmart on palm does the same.

all that really dosent matter, illegality is illegality.
i myself, dont follow american laws to begin with, but then again im not rallying, and if a cop stops me im not going back to africa.

Lamberto Quintero · Apr 5, 2006

gas uno said:

Ahh, so why is it the immigrants fault? Why should families suffer when the problem lays with the employer to begin with. How can a worker getting extremely exploited every day of his life be compared to a bank robber?

gas uno · Apr 5, 2006

who the fuck said it was the immigrants fault? are you just trying to argue because you think im anti-immigrant, when im not?

im really speaking on the law side of things and not morality, this isnt human psychology, the shit is illegal, whether you feed your family like that or make a 'honest living' or not, you still broke a law.

its the employers fault for hiring of course, but its also the immigrants fault for breaking the law and even making that choice possible. you cant treat the effect as the cause. the employers are struck with a moral decision to make and they go with it. thats two people breaking laws.

i aint say the laws are right, im just saying theyre laws. and if you break laws in america theres usually a consequence. as a individual its up to you to decide if its worth lawbreaking.

secondly, i didnt compare anyone to a bank robber because im actually somewhat intelligent, thats your boy over there.

everyones suffering. thats what you dont see. you may be so tied up in worried about the poor immigrants that you dont notice the poverty and unemployment rate in san diego. and im sorry homie, immigrants arent any more important than the people suffering that live here. yall dont deserve special treatment.

point blank, american law says crossing the border illegitimately is illegal. and if you crossed illegally then thats the business. this country is ran on laws. if you live here, you either abide by laws or suffer whatever consequences are at hand, thats up to you to choose.

just like those that choose to risk freedom by crossing the border to get drugs. same viewpoint, different situation. they see oppurtunity.

try that sneak-in-a-country shit somewhere else, theyll throw you in jail forever.

the only solution really is that mexico is gonna have to work with america and vice versa. youre coming to the devils den, bush runs this shit, dont expect to be greeted with open arms.

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