HOW MANY OF YOU RAP OR SING?

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Are you a writer,rapper or a singer?
1.QUESTION WHY DO YOU SING OR RAP? What is your purpose?

2.Is it a hobbie or do you plan on it being your life.

Also who do you think could help you and how could they help you achieve the goals that you have set.?

And what could your peers and your rap community, loyal rap fans do to help you as an artist get recognized.Besides attending shows and buying your cd?

These are serious question's if you have nothing positive to say don't reply please!!
GB
@@IF YOU ARE AN ARTIST POST UP YOUR LABEL GROUP OR STAGE NAME AND YOUR UP COMING RELEASES AND CITY.
 
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Do I sing or rap... i've made a few audios... my purpose is just to have fun i guess....

i don't quite know if it is a hobbie or a career.... im still young...im 14 almost 15... so i'd say its a hobbie

anybody who knows about the hip-hop business could help me.. whether it be CONSTRUCTIVE criticism (not just sayin you suck.. get the hell out), doing a song with me, or just makin beats for me... everyone could use help...its a fact

fans need to offer promoting jobs... if all fans around the country offer to promote.. you're bound to go big..

im not with a label.. but one motha fucka wants me to record with him but wont set up the date..*cough*Masked Man 206*cough*...lol.. good lookin though KRIME

pz
 

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YOUNG KRIME said:
1.QUESTION WHY DO YOU SING OR RAP? What is your purpose?

2.Is it a hobbie or do you plan on it being your life.

Also who do you think could help you and how could they help you achieve the goals that you have set.?

And what could your peers and your rap community, loyal rap fans do to help you as an artist get recognized. Besides attending shows and buying your cd?
Artists: Mo-X & Lil' G
Album: Angry Souls
Label: Unknown Territory Records
D.O.B: Winter 2002

Why do I rap and what is my purpose? I rap because I've always been into hip hop and it's always been my outlet to vent frustrations. I was raised on hip hop, I don't know anything else... never did like that bullshit ass grunge crap that they tried to pawn on the world, for me it's always been hip hop till the death of me. I write rhymes because I have to, because it challenges me, because I gotta get shit off my chest that bothers me. And my purpose is simply to be heard. I'm not one of those bitch ass rappers who is into this shit for the fame, money or bitches. I got my head sewn on tight, I see the bigger picture in life. Fuck bitches, I'm tryna get a wifey who can love my ass and we can grow as two people and have kids. That's the bigger picture. Everything else is a lie.

Hobbie or life? Everything I do is calculated around hip hop. I base 100% of my friends around the life of hip hop. I see it as a lifestyle, a movement, not just a fad that motherfuckers is into. I'm tryna be heard, fuck all these faggot ass doods that ain't sayin' shit, strummin there guitars talking about how fat this bitches ass is. That ain't me. I got a message behind what the fuck I'm tryna say. Example... I was mad offended by priests in the news who don't even make an attempt at remorse for there nasty ass actions. Conclusion? My verse on Angry Souls. Message? Watch who the fuck your kids play with and never leave 'em alone with someone you think you can trust because fact of the matter is... you can't trust nobody except yourself and your family. This shit is a lifestyle and I'll be damned if someone is gonna strip it away from me because I'm going somewhere. Whether I gotta damn near give you my CD or you're paying full price for it, you're gonna hear me speak.

Who do I think could help me and how could they help me achieve the goals that i've have set, and what could my peers and my rap community, loyal rap fans do to help me as an artist get recognized. Besides attending shows and buying your cd? This is like the hardest question to answer because the hip hop community in Seattle doesn't support itself. Kube 93 is lacking in a department that they absolutely shouldnt' be lacking in. They should be helping local artists who are tight, come up. But the problem with them is that they are only in this shit because it makes them money, like it's a fuckin' fad or something. I remember being young and them fuckers straight up switched they style and started playing all kinds of rock, alternative bullshit because that was the popular shit at the time especially in Seattle. But that to me is a stab in the back. If hip hop in Seattle is going to go anywhere, Kube needs to step up to the plate. There is no other way without spending huge amounts of money to reach the masses in this state. And this comment right here coming up next is not directed at any given person, but rather just shows what's up... but, I don't give a fuck how successful you think your label is. 5,000 units or whatever your pushing is only 5,000 people you've reached in Washington State. That is less than 1% of the population. The NW has so much talent we should be in the ears of everybody listening to hip hop in this state. That's the damn truth. But what local cats need to do is open there eyes to the talent in the NW, that's all. Whether you buy the CD or not, listen to what your own community is trying to say.
 
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I rap......

I do it cuz I wanna get my message out to the world....but I would be lying if i told yall I wasnt trying to get a better life for me and all my loved ones.....

just keeping it real

neema khorrami
unexpected arrival
 

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Re: Re: HOW MANY OF YOU RAP OR SING?

mo-x said:
Kube 93 is lacking in a department that they absolutely shouldnt' be lacking in. They should be helping local artists who are tight, come up. But the problem with them is that they are only in this shit because it makes them money, like it's a fuckin' fad or something.
I thought most of what you said was cool......except this. You have the same mentality that alot of cats do. I USED to feel the same way too.....until I actually sat down with my folks Tony B and chopped it up with him. And by the time he was done.....I had an entirely different outlook on commercial radio.

KUBE 93 wants to help people.....they really do. Nothing would make them happier than to get behind an artist from Seattle (or Tacoma, etc) that is ready to blow up nationally.....and be the ones that helped make it happen. But the problem is......MOST people don't have their shit together well enough to be worthy of the air time. And the people who DO have their shit together.....and have the financial resources to make shit happen.....well....their product simply isn't hot enough.

You wanna know the formula for gettin' on KUBE 93? I'll tell all ya'll this 1 time.............so print it out......take a picture.....whatever!

1. MAKE A HIT RADIO SONG! If the song is crap.....then you're dead in the water before you even get to step 2.

2. Submit the HIT SONG to Tony B @ Future Flavors. Do follow ups to make sure he received the package and make him familiar with you and your label. Be courteous and professional.....remember that THEY are doing YOU a favor.

*Secret tip #1* Tony B doesn't return his phone calls or messages.......e-mail is the absolute best way to contact him.

3. If and when your song hits the air on Future Flavors.....have everybody and they mama call up and show some support for the song. The more calls they get about the song......the more they will play it. Byrdie's "Player's Policy pt.2" was on Future Flavors for like 10-12 weeks straight before they decided to TRY to get it into regular rotation. Send e-mails......all that shit. There HAS TO BE a demand for the song.

4. IF and WHEN your song is determined to be worthy of regular rotation......you will have a sit-down with the stations music director (Eric Powers) & Tony B.....and they will inform you that they have decided to move forward with it. The music director will ask you if it's getting play anywhere else (other cities)....if it's registered with BDS (Broadcast Data Systems.....never heard of them? And you want to be on the radio? Do your fuckin' homework!).....and if the album is being actively promoted via fliers, snippets, vinyl & shows. They will want to get promo materials from you to give to the KUBE 93 street team to help support the single......and you better have that shit!

5. At this point....the single will go into regular late night rotation. Usually they will play the song 2-3 times a night (according to the playlists) from about 9pm to 5am. If they get plenty of requests for it and shit is going right......after a few weeks.....you will move to the final step.

6. FULL ROTATION. You gets played all day.....everyday. And if you're lucky (like my boy Neema) you'll end up on the Top 7 @ 7.

MOST PEOPLE can't get past step 1......making a HOT radio song. Much less know how to BDS their shit or be promoting their shit right. There are alot of hoops to jump through to get on the radio.....it's not easy. But once you're in there.....you're in there.

*Secret tip #2* Go to KUBE functions and mingle with the KUBE DJ's.....get to know them! These are the people that will be playing your shit! NETWORK with them.....most of them are really cool people and love to support local artists that are doing shit on a serious level. Don't come at them all stupid like...."My name is MC Dumbass and we're the shit." Just chop it up with them....you'd be surprised how many of them will give advice and actually tell you what to do and what NOT to do.

OK.....that will be $500.....the game is to be sold.......YA DIG?!?!
 
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my answer to these ???

i rap....but you ask too many questions man.........lol,naw i just woke up i dont have the energy to answer these questions right now...i like whats' being said..i'll eventually answer these ? later today.
 
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My mission is to get the north-west working as one

That is real good of you to lace the few people that didn't know what to do as far as Kube 93 goes and mo-x i feel you homie.
I started this thread so every artist could let it be known where they came from and where they are headed.And also i believe that all us labels and rappers that are in it for the long haul meaning life,can work on helping our hip-hop rap community grow and change the game as we know it.Have you ever been down south Texas,A.T.L basically the whole down south i know most of you probably don't like there music but my point is that, that is all you hear on the streets,radio every where down there they support there own first off and also they live off the music that there rap artist make it's a way of life down there.My mission is to get the northwest sound to be our way of life it's cool to listen to cali rappers,oregon,or who ever but if an artist or group from washington got heat it should be put on a higher level.Instead of gettin down played.
YK
 
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I rap (I cannot sing and wouldn't even try).

I am doing this as a hobby right now but it will someday be a side hustle for me for the fact that I have talent and one message for these mass market bullshitters: Love what you do or leave the game.

I am Southern, I'm from Birmingham, Alabama and my focus is to elevate Southern hip-hop to a higher level, not how Cash Money does it, to a lower end of the commercialist side of thangs. I want the money in all actuality but at the same time I think about giving people somethin that's worth it: hard, underground lyrics with a focus: eradication of repetition. They say it's nothing new under the sun, but I feel it's a lie cause I bring a love of the game to the table.

I am a 20 year old Junior and a Comm. major who hopes to be a Public Relations person. My only obstacles are my parents who are haters, and I try to explain that I can do what I want to, and that's rap.

Hip hop is a lifestyle for me because it gives me an outlet to express my inner feelings that only my peers can understand, I began with poetry around 15 years old and I ain't quit since. I wrote my first rap in a Biology class as a college freshman.

My rap name is Stealth Killa because it is on the DL (hence the Stealth) that I can flow and the Killa is because I'm on some murdering MC's type shit. I'm a fine, Black, Southern female.

Any questions about my influences or skills, PM me anytime after reading this post.
 

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@D-Sane: thanks dawg, you just filled in mad information that was lacking in the department of: "How do I make Kube love me" - I gotta appreciate that. You're dead right too. Kube would love to blow up a local act into the national spot light... my problem with them is that I'm still bitter from there late 80's early 90's switch up. I used to get all my music from Kube or steal it from stores and when they did that shit, I was pissed. But I see what you're saying. They're just waiting for someone who has all there ducks in a row and the talent and then it's on. We're seeing eye to eye on that now. I guess there was a little bit of "feeling sorry for yourself" attitude in what I said, but what you said makes sense straight up.
 

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I was just reading up on BDS and it would be interesting to know what there algorithm is for finger printing music. If one could already know this information, or reverse engineer it, they could fake the data going into BDS. Lets just say you've got the ability to listen to music before anybody else does... you get a copy of the song, figure out it's finger print, and then fake the figure print of your song to match the song that is going to be mad popular. You submit your track to BDS, they finger print it. The new whoever comes out and it's got the same finger print as you... I wonder would BDS pick up on the fact that there are two finger prints that match, or would the computer just default to the original finger print? If that's the case, it would be a cool way to get air play... because station programmers use BDS to see what they should be playing and if they see that Mo-X & Lil' G is hugely popular (and of course you sent your song to all the major radio stations), they are going to play it.... when in reality your stats were generated by some commercial artist. Who knows, maybe both your stats would go up. Never know until you try. I wonder if that's fraud, I'm sure it is... I would still love to get my hands on a copy of there encoding software, run it through a debugger and figure out how they do the finger prints. mwhaha, I'm scheming on how to get my shit played. lol
 
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Rapper here.

Ill try to explain myself without writing my life story:

Before music, I never had a passion...I'd have hobbies that would come and go, but that was it. I never had anything besides my family that really meant something to me. I always liked music, but it was never really anything except music to me until I was 14. This is when I started listening to underground gangsta rap. I still to this day havent been able to pinpoint why...but something about this type of music hit me like no other music ever had. Everytime I listened to it I got an adrenaline rush that was addictive like a drug. As time passed, my love for this music got greater and greater and grew from just gangsta rap to rap itself. Rapping started out as a hobby to me...I would memorize my favorite verses and rap em out loud. People always commented on how I had a knack for impersonating a rapper's flow perfectly. After a while I wanted to make my own raps. So in 2000, on this board actually, I wrote my first rap. Of course, it was garbage...but I kept writing shit on the flowz board and eventually got pretty damn good. It was hard to transfer my skills of just writing lyrics on the board to writing verses to spit. About every rap I spit for a year or so after I first started was garbage. But the more music I listen to, the more my knowledge of things like rhyming and lyricism increased, and so did the quality of my work....till in the summer of 2001, I wrote my first tight verse that was actually a rap (the only tight shit I had before this was online text verses). After I stopped trying to sound like my favorite artists and started developing my own style, I just started to get better hella fast, without really trying.
 
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continued....

Now I rap for the love of it, and as sort of a mission...

I, as a lot of rap fans are, am really upset with the current state of hip hop. It isnt about who has talent anymore...its about who can look cool on TV and sell the most records to a fanbase that doesnt have any real appreciation for the art at all. I dont have the goals of most rappers. I'll be perfectly honest: I dont have dreams of making it big...my goal isnt to be on MTV...my dream isnt to be rich off music. In fact, I dont even expect music will be my source of income as an adult. Like Mo-X, I just wanna be HEARD. I feel that Im a talented artist...and with my talent I feel like I owe something to the fans like myselves that are pulling their hair out trying to find new music to listen to thats actually GOOD. And I feel with my work I can bring a breath of fresh air to these people, whether I reach 10 or 10,000 of 'em. My style is something you wont hear anywhere else. I take great pride in my creativity and originality. My style is very west coast but Ive also integrated things Ive learned from east coast rappers (things like underlaps and multi-word rhyming) to make myself more skillful. And with my album that'll be released on Street Level Records in 2003, I'll be exposing fans to a style that all hip hop fans can appreciate...clever lyrics with a tight delivery, and concepts that anybody can relate to. And at the young age of 17, I dont have room for anything except improvement.
 

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LOL @ Mo-X.....always trying to find a way to scheme.

What would most likely happen is that both songs would register everytime the one song is played.....or vice versa. They would most likely catch on after a while too......since the numbers would be identical for both songs. Another thing......BDS keeps track of spins by station.....so if it's saying that your song has received 200 spins on Jammin' 95 in Portland.....and your shit ain't on the playlist to even be played yet.....you're gonna be busted when the music director checks the BDS lists.

Nice try you fuckin' computer hacker you!
 

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Mr. D-Sane said:
LOL @ Mo-X.....always trying to find a way to scheme.

What would most likely happen is that both songs would register everytime the one song is played.....or vice versa. They would most likely catch on after a while too......since the numbers would be identical for both songs. Another thing......BDS keeps track of spins by station.....so if it's saying that your song has received 200 spins on Jammin' 95 in Portland.....and your shit ain't on the playlist to even be played yet.....you're gonna be busted when the music director checks the BDS lists.

Nice try you fuckin' computer hacker you!
I was thinking about that too, and if you can't get remote access into there database, then you could either break into the building or get a job at BDS or get a job doing janitorialy services, or break bread with the janitor (or security guards) and have them give you access to the building. Either way, you've got access to a terminal, and with a pretty proficient level of skill you could easily penetrate whatever security is protecting the database and add new records and then doctor the logs so that you were never there. I'm just saying it would be a pretty cool hack to pull off. Because if you were on the lists, you would get a shitload of air play before they figure out they got owned and if your song is good enough it will continue to get airplay as people will call in and request your song. So Sarkastik & Crytical over a D-Sane beat with a little help from Mo-X might just blow that song right the fuck up. But then again, we are discussing this over the public airwaves and I could never partake in such a juvenile act.

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