How did sur sets get started up north
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The earliest Mexican prisoners from Northern California were not paisas, they were Chicanos. And, very few of them were farmers. They lived in the established towns and cities, in houses, in Chicano neighborhoods, and most of them went to prison for heroin related offenses. They were living the same "pachuco" style seen in LA at the time.
Also, even the farmers, for the most part, weren't paisas. The earliest UFW members were mostly Chicanos. Farming was just their culture, going back to when California was still Mexico.
Southern Chicanos, gang affiliated or not, may have looked down on Northern Chicanos, gang affiliated or not, because they were more willing to co op with American culture. This wasn't even necessarily true, it was just the perception in LA. Sureno gang members, on the other hand, looked down on Norteno gang members because they weren't from places as violent as LA was, and they could sense that from doing time with them. The "farmer" label was a facetious insult. Very few Norteno gang members were farmers. Perhaps some between San Jose and Salinas were. But for the most part, farmers are farmers. They get up at 4 in the morning, and farm. They don't do dope, sell dope, and get in fights like the neighborhood and city Chicanos from N. Cal who wound up in prison did. The Nortenos that were farmers must have been long removed from that culture by the time they started getting involved with gang related activities. The gang life and the farm life are two separate universes.
Now that's the truth.
Also, even the farmers, for the most part, weren't paisas. The earliest UFW members were mostly Chicanos. Farming was just their culture, going back to when California was still Mexico.
Southern Chicanos, gang affiliated or not, may have looked down on Northern Chicanos, gang affiliated or not, because they were more willing to co op with American culture. This wasn't even necessarily true, it was just the perception in LA. Sureno gang members, on the other hand, looked down on Norteno gang members because they weren't from places as violent as LA was, and they could sense that from doing time with them. The "farmer" label was a facetious insult. Very few Norteno gang members were farmers. Perhaps some between San Jose and Salinas were. But for the most part, farmers are farmers. They get up at 4 in the morning, and farm. They don't do dope, sell dope, and get in fights like the neighborhood and city Chicanos from N. Cal who wound up in prison did. The Nortenos that were farmers must have been long removed from that culture by the time they started getting involved with gang related activities. The gang life and the farm life are two separate universes.
Now that's the truth.
They came up north because its an excellent climate for lemon trees
And they started claiming the areas around the lemon trees
Garfields Grove trece was the first
Followed by Juicy Limon 13
Sour Face Gangsters was one of the earlier and more deadly varrios
They were never scared and always ready for battle because they would carry around a lemon and suck on it at crunch time
And they started claiming the areas around the lemon trees
Garfields Grove trece was the first
Followed by Juicy Limon 13
Sour Face Gangsters was one of the earlier and more deadly varrios
They were never scared and always ready for battle because they would carry around a lemon and suck on it at crunch time
down south foos that know nothing about how scraps started out here in northern cali should keep they mouth shut....they just make themselves sound stupid by saying sum dumb shit that obiviousily they have no idea about--ignorant vatos..it make me mad kuz really i see it as they should have no opinion in wats goin on up here....n i kno we aint got no scraps up here in dalycity--eastside all the 2 fogtown..aint never seen a real one..i heard we had a scrap gang out here once but my O.G carnal told me they got rid of em awhile back...all i see is asian Crips at westlake plaza Buh dont tell me they scraps otherwise kuz crips is a whole different thing for all the uneducated foos...