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take it easy ... LOL

I dont listen to them ... but Im not so happy that theyre labeled as rappers you dig ?

Also to they guy that said i should listen to underground rappers ... I do that :D

and i found this guy weeks ago .. check one of his tracks : http://micpye.imeem.com/music/4mAC4cWa/mic_pye_work_magic_freestyle/

its not the best from him and its from 2006 but its worth listening ..
 
Mar 21, 2007
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sounds like a bunch of bitchin in here.....

like what was said before.... people bitchin about other peoples music is whats so called killin hiphop....

why are people still bitchin about other niggas doin them.... if u dont like a certain type of music.. dont listen to it... you dont like yoddlin... so u dont listen to it.. nor do you post a thread in here talkin about.. YODDLIN SUCKS... so why the fuck u makin threads about souljah boy sucks or boosie sucks or whateva... closed minded bitches are the ones really killin hiphop...

back when the Fat Boys was rhymin about ALL YOU CAN EAT... there was no problem and that was there claim to fame... joke raps..they werent lyrical in a Rakim way.. but they did them... they were fat.. so they played on that.. and brought somethin to the table...

if you dont like a certain type of music... listen to what you want to... nobody forces you to listen to soljah boy or hurricane chris... evidently by u bein on this site.. you have a computer and that right there allows you to find WHATEVER type of rap music YOU like..
if you dont like these threads? then why even click on them? nobody is forcing you

anyways

according to google, hip hop remains in the same place it has been for the past 3-4 years

since 2003, back when 50 was the shit and he sold 6 million

....hip hop has been the same

Nas fooled you guys, he played on your fantasies
 
Nov 13, 2004
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Its not that serious! Music changes...just like i grew up on NWA,Eazy,Ice T, Geto Boyz,etc....but people a lil older than me was sayin the same thing cuz they grew up on Run DMC, Furious 5, Kurtis Blow,Sugar Hill etc. Im a late 80's-90's era rap fan all day. But just cuz music has evolved from MY so called golden years of hip hop doesnt mean its dead. Hip hop would be dead if it did stay the same and didnt change. Imagine if the west coast never started doin gangsta rap using profanity and just played it safe and immulated the east coast hip hop of the time. Souljah boy, Hurricane Chris,etc are for the youngstas...leave him alone. His music probably doesnt apply to u as it doesnt to me either. But Scarface just drooped a dope ass album, thats for us! UGK...thats for us! Music changes! So no...hip hop is very alive!
 

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They only hear that shit because thats all thats gettin played.... ya it's gettin played for a reason but still... it'd be nice to have some good shit on the radio once n a while
 
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The only thing I don't like right now about the Rap game is there is basically only one type of style running the show right now and that's Club music. It would be nice to hear more variety. The silly dance songs don't bother me that much because I see there just having fun (can't really hate people having fun and being happy), but the fact that there's just so much of it makes you think their really being serious about it. There needs to be more of a balance in styles because everything now sounds the same. Beat wise, I wouldn't mind if the WestCoast actually sounded WestCoast (which is more based on FUNK & jazz, piano, guitar, strings, big bouncy basslines, softer synth leads), South sound faster, bassier, Trancier with heavy synth usage, EastCoast gritty, dirty, acoustic, classical/jazzy. So I think your region should define your sound. Seems like people have forgotten their roots and now we really only have one sound which is based on the South. I for one prefer that real raw sound, more classic WestCoast/Eastcoast, I like that REAL sound. The new shit sounds too digital for my taste. How about incorporating some Piano, guitar, strings, real basslines (not pitched 808 kicks), acoustic drum sounds,etc...???? I feel that REAL sound brings more soul out of the lyrics. Just listen to 2Pac, Biggie, and others from the 90's, they always rapped over some raw sounding beats, no Techno/Trancey ish. Rappers back then had a better taste for music, that's for sure, they had that musical ear. Now days, I just don't see it.
 

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sounds like a bunch of bitchin in here.....

like what was said before.... people bitchin about other peoples music is whats so called killin hiphop....

why are people still bitchin about other niggas doin them.... if u dont like a certain type of music.. dont listen to it... you dont like yoddlin... so u dont listen to it.. nor do you post a thread in here talkin about.. YODDLIN SUCKS... so why the fuck u makin threads about souljah boy sucks or boosie sucks or whateva... closed minded bitches are the ones really killin hiphop...

back when the Fat Boys was rhymin about ALL YOU CAN EAT... there was no problem and that was there claim to fame... joke raps..they werent lyrical in a Rakim way.. but they did them... they were fat.. so they played on that.. and brought somethin to the table...

if you dont like a certain type of music... listen to what you want to... nobody forces you to listen to soljah boy or hurricane chris... evidently by u bein on this site.. you have a computer and that right there allows you to find WHATEVER type of rap music YOU like..
EXACLY, PPL IN HERE IS SAYING THE SAME SHIT IVE HERD SO MANY FUCKIN TIMES, NOTHING NEW AT ALL, SAME TIRED ASS COMPLAINTS

WHO GIVES A FUCK WHO LISTENS TO SOULJA BOY OR ANOTHER COMMERICIAL ACT? LIKE SERIOUSLY, I DONT LET MTV TELL ME WHAT TO WHAT TO LISTEN TO, I DO ME, AND THAT IS IT.....
 
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I mean seriously....u think hip hop is that fical and weak that Souljah Boy, Hurricane Chris, D4L, and a bunch of other corny soundin mufuckas can KILL hip hop?! Whats gon kill hip hop is each other. Icecube said it the best on Child Support...nuff said.
 
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(i was born in 89' so my opinion is blind)
Very blind. U haven't really lived thru no real hip hop. U might have heard plenty of good hip hop but not lived through it. Trust me when I say that makes a big difference.


I might have seen & experienced some racisim cuz I was born in 1977 & raised in Cali but I've never lived through it like my grandparents who are from Mississppi & Texas & were born in the 20's & 30's so my views on that shit is not gonna be the same.
 
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Very blind. U haven't really lived thru no real hip hop. U might have heard plenty of good hip hop but not lived through it. Trust me when I say that makes a big difference.


I might have seen & experienced some racisim cuz I was born in 1977 & raised in Cali but I've never lived through it like my grandparents who are from Mississppi & Texas & were born in the 20's & 30's so my views on that shit is not gonna be the same.
I feel that and thats the point i was making...I was born in 75 and hip hop heads before me thought hip hop was shonuff dead when NWA came with cursing and jerhi curls. But u couldnt tell me and my peers nothin different. I remember hearing Geto Boyz for the first time "Makin Trouble". Its just like these youngsta relating to Souljah Boy.
 
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Young Cutthroat;3368625 Im also tired of people claiming that 2pac and Biggie were the 2 greatest ever...only reason they say that shit is because theyre dead.[/QUOTE said:
I think it is reasonable to say people revere Pac and Big more than a lot of living artists because of their deaths. But at the same time I also understand why people say they were the greatest. It's because Hip-Hop was at it's peak (so to speak) when Big and Pac were shining. It was like the most exciting time in Hip Hop and most competitive time in Hip Hop and these were the two kings at the time. I don't think Hip-Hop will ever reach the level of excitement it was at in 96 before the deaths of Pac and Big. Rap sales were through the roof, videos were bigger and cost more to make than ever, and the game was very competitive. Thats my 2 cents on your statement.
 
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I think it is reasonable to say people revere Pac and Big more than a lot of living artists because of their deaths. But at the same time I also understand why people say they were the greatest. It's because Hip-Hop was at it's peak (so to speak) when Big and Pac were shining. It was like the most exciting time in Hip Hop and most competitive time in Hip Hop and these were the two kings at the time. I don't think Hip-Hop will ever reach the level of excitement it was at in 96 before the deaths of Pac and Big. Rap sales were through the roof, videos were bigger and cost more to make than ever, and the game was very competitive. Thats my 2 cents on your statement.
i agree with this. even if lebron is better than jordan, its gonna be difficult to beat the michael jordan "story" (win in college, come to the L, win dunk competition, blow up with nike, 3 peat, retire, 3 peat, make last shot). same with rap now, biggie and tupac, whether people come along that are better than them or not, who is gonna have a better story line than that? shit was like a movie, unbelievable, former friends turned enemies, carrying coasts on their shoulders and going out like they both knew they would. "nobody till somebody kills you" "i aint mad atcha (video)".

but some "rapper" said something like "the new generation thinks about jordan and only remembers how iverson crossed him" so something else will emerge, the new era just hasnt had anyone come along strong enough to define it yet.
 

ThaG

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Hip Hop Dying Every Day ...

I will mention only 2 reasons ...

1st one is : Soulja boy, hurricane etc. + Bow Wow saying " Im Hip Hop " :confused:
they are all hip-hop, just not the type of hip-hop you like

nobody has the right to define what hip-hop is, only the right to like and dislike certain artists and styles

2nd reason : real rappers get killed ( theyre hip hop ) ... this year we lost Stack Bundles, Pimp C & Big Mo ( and maybe alot of other underground rappers that i dont know about em ).
I can't agree with you, it seems that you are falling in the "MC "X" is dead, he was the shit" trap. Pimp C is a legend, but both Stack Bundles and Big Moe were parts of what is wrong with hip-hop today if I correctly understand your position - a mixtape rapper with little substance and a southern MC rapping about ballin...

and this is hardly a reason for the decline of hip-hop, most rappers who get shot were droppin nothing but bullshit right before their death. No disrespect to them, R.I.P., but the truth has to be told
 

ThaG

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^^ There are plenty of people PAST the level that 2pac and Biggie were on that are active in the game right now. Im also tired of people claiming that 2pac and Biggie were the 2 greatest ever...only reason they say that shit is because theyre dead.
I never understood why Biggie is considered on the same level as Pac, he dropped just one album before his death. I guess it is because of the beef but what he did was nowhere near the quantity of quality stuff that Pac made....

2Pac was not the best rapper ever, but he was definitely the greatest in terms of the amount of classic material he recorded, these are two different things