hip-hop and obsession to the "Mafia"

[ValleyPainProduct]

well i think they kinda mocc it too....if you a Killa Tay fan youll remember on his "Mr Mafioso" album he starts it off wit a skit of him actin like some mob bosses and he sayin "wtf is up wit these AWOL guys....there fuccin moolies tryin to act like there us" or some shit like that....so he was basically sayin same shit yall sayin so i took it as a moccing situation....

 

[1/2 On It]

and its taken that much to get a lot of Crips/Bloods Sur/Norte gangstas into prison....RICO cases have been brought against these gangs jus like the Cosa Nostra......jus cuz a lotta lil kids runnin around claimin gangs gettin snatched up for stupid lil shit doesnt mean these gangs arent also well run organizations.....Suge Knight is on the level of the Mafia.....hes got police on the payroll....one of em being the murderer of Biggie....theres all sorts of evidence pointing to this and no ones been convicted.....the case has been dropped and left unsloved....so i guess Deathrow can call themselves mafiosos.......

THe kids running around banging are simply just tools of the real OGs. They think that 'puttin in work' brings them status, but it only shows how low they are in the heirarchy.

This system was made popular by the Five Points Gang in New York in the 1930s. The Sicilian Mafia would get these kids all excited about going around and beating up people and killing people, they didn't know that they were simply just tools of the Sicilian Mafia, making hits for free.

I think of this when I see people claimin shit like Norte and all they gotta say about it is '$crap Killa!", haha they have made it so that most younguns now think that it is all about banging. Poor kids dont understand that banging was made up as a way for the younguns to do all the dirty work for the OGs who sit back and are all about money.

And its funny how some gangs have started just for the purpose of 'banging' when no one is telling them what to do... which is pretty fucking stupid and pointless, and totally misses the entire purpose.

 

[ValleyPainProduct]

yeah the norte situation and all gang bangin really has gotten outta hand....but on the norte shit....rappers like Sir Dyno done fucced it all up....and hes not a factor....he has no real affiliation to the Nuestra Famila or the Northern Structure but hes made a lotta money off kids that idolize him.....talkin bout killa scrap this killa scrap that....nigga aint killed no one....but some dumb lil kid gonna think its coo and kill one and go to prison for life while Dyno collectin money.....bullshit....dont get me twisted....i was raised a Crip but only one OG i can say was a real mafucca and schooled me on some real shit while the rest thought they could use me to do thier dirty work.....that shit didnt pan out like they planned so they plotted against me and used even younger and dumber ones to try ta get me....but im still standin....learned on my own what the real shit about.....still Revolution In Progress on mines but fucc any bangers that dont understand what a real cause is about.....

 

[reppin_the_509]

this is what i honestly dont understand, italians go and do drive by's, make organized crime, make gambling, all of a sudden, thats blacc culture, but me, as an italian, if i wear a shirt thats too big for me and sag my pants and decide to wear some clean ass nikes and say "fasho" and listen to rap music, im a "wigger" or trying to be a part of black culture, wtf is all that shit i meen honestly

 

[Sydal]

^^^^
For real. Anytime somebody starts actin all funny style because of the way I dress or talk, I just tell em to eat a dick. I'm being me, and if that resembles another culture, so be it, that's how I grew up. There's a HUGE difference though, that's NEVER taken into consideration. Anybody ANYWHERE can grow up with Hip Hop culture, grow up around people who dress like that, talk like that, act like that, etc. etc. Not a whole lot of people around the world can say they grew up around the Mafia (knowingly), so they just picked up on what the Mafiosi do.

 

[B-Buzz]

^^^ I made the same point a couple years ago in an old thread in the open forum, I think Shea was the only one that had my back lol

Sydal- you know your shit. Are you familiar with The Outfit?

 

[Sydal]

I've studied it since I was little. Being an Italian, I've always been interested in all aspects of the culture, bad or good. With that interest, I've ALWAYS been fascinated by the Mafia, even though the majority of them are Sicilian, there's still northern Italians scattered throughout. The fact that my people came to this country for better lives, and got dogged out by the government and other Americans...especially Irish Americans, and they STILL rose above it, building multi-million dollar businesses (legal and not), is simply off the hook. Not a lot of people can say that about their ancestors. So, I've always read about it, always watched movies/documentaries, followed John Gotti, learned about the Bonanno family since they were local at one point, and I'm pretty sure one of the daughters was my elementary school principal...lol.

So yea, in a way I guess you can say I'm familiar with it.

 

[B-Buzz]

ya Im the same way, some of my family were involved so I started learning more and more and it gets more and more fascinating. My grandpa was born and raised on Taylor Street (Chicago) and grew up with the og members of the 54 gang, but never got involved.

You should check out THE OUTFIT: The Role of Chicago's Underworld in the Shaping of Modern America
by Gus Russo. Best Mafia book Ive ever read, it has everything about the history of the Outfit.

http://www.lukeman.com/Titles/Outfit.htm

Another one to check out is Tony Accardo: The Genuine Godfather by William Roemer (The FBI Agent) It gives you insight on, IMO, the greatest mobster ever to live.

 

[Sydal]

Thanks man, I'm gonna check both of those out, definitely. Good lookin.

 

[yung-g]

I understnad the, moneys clothes and hoes aspect of it.

thats basically it really folkz. i mean comin from a rappers view, that happens to be black, i just see my niggas makin all the refrences and shit because niggas is hungry in the streets, and niggas idolized the mafia's money, power, & respect.

i mean i aint sayin its right, but at the same time i feel where my niggs is comin from. most came up from havin nuthin in the streets, so they just wanna have powerful organization within their click.

 

[Dave Cop-a-feel]

Basically, it all comes down to pure IGNORANCE. These Black rappers that imitate Italian mafia figures obviously did not do their research before hand because if they did they would have found out that these folks didn't give a fuck about Blacks or our culture. On another note, the same ignorance has Blacks walking around sportin clothes by Von Dutch. It's a fact that the man was a known racist yet mufuckas are playin themselves by endorsing his gear! If you wanna truly keep it real then Black rapper's need to idolize their own and leave the mafia charactors on the big screen. I don't give a fuck how much my life may mirror the "other man", I only rep for my people at the end of the day. How the fuck you gonna name yourself after a mafia figure and be Black? Fools don't even realize how stupid that truely is.

 

[The Duke of Earl]

learned about the Bonanno family since they were local at one point, and I'm pretty sure one of the daughters was my elementary school principal...lol.

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weren't they around oakland ?

 

[Sydal]

^^^^
San Jose