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^^^Are you Heresy?..........No.........Then may I ask why you are speaking for him?

Maybe you should let him speak for himself...unless neither you or him have the balls to do so........LOL

LOL....a grown man speaking for another grown man......that's whats really SUSPECT:cheeky:

P.S.

This is my first time on the site........registered today.......Just ran a search engine and saw "The home of ganster rap" or something similar and decided to browse......Upon hearing this particular "rapper" I decided to reply.
 
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Hannibal said:
Now you can go ahead and attempt to insult me if you like, but it would be rather childish considering the fact that you posted the songs to get honest feedback.

End of discussion...............................

LOL......................a "net gang"?
 

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@hannibal thanks 4 your feedback. let me lace you on a couple of things.

1.if im not mistaking at the START of this thread i said that those were ROUGH MIXES *2*. i have mixes that go to *5* so basically i have 5 different mixes of each song.

so why comment on the mix when it was explained that they were NOT the final mixes?

2.simple rhyme scheme? no its straight to the point. im not a tongue twisting rapper. selling music is not based on TALENT or FLOWS. its actually based on DEMOGRAPHICS and providing a NEED to the buyer. you can rap about broken pencils and still get paid if its marketed to the right group. can MASTER P rap? can BIG TYMERS? im straight to the point. mark of the beast.


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The concepts are medeocre in the metal genre(...which is almost non-existant today), so how can they be "original"....every metal band says the same types of things!!!
the metal genre is non existant??????? LOL!!!! creed? disturbed? papa roach? lol!@every metal band says the same type of things. creed does NOT say the same things as a perfect circle or tool.

1.what metal band or rapper made a song about the priests molesting kids (during the past year)?

2.what metal band or rapper made a song about 9-11 being done by bush and the jesuit order (in the past year)?

3.i am NOT endorsing or saying to WORSHIP SATAN. i am saying to NOT accept the mark and to WATCH OUT for CROOKED CHURCHES. now i ask you what metal band or rapper has spoken on 501c3 (within the past year)???????

4.what metal band or rapper has made a song about www.mondex.com or DIGITAL ANGEL?


Overall, and this is just my honest opinion, I didn't like it at all.......Not because of the biblical references, not because I didn't understand it(please, the rhyme scheme is so basic my little sister could understand it), it just wasn't all that appealing...
look man this is the music BUSINESS. it generates CAPITAL. see you got when you said "your little sister can understand it"!!!!! THATS WHAT I WANT!!! the album doesnt have any cuss words (well if you count whore or bastard) and i WANT young people to LISTEN to it and APPLY what im speaking on to whats going on NOW. this is NOT shake your ass album. it isnt gangsta music. it isnt something you can smoke to. if you feel that your sister could understand it GREAT!!!!!!!!! she is supposed to understand it. its not much slang in the music. very straight to the point. would you rather i giv eyour sister something she can learn from? or something that wont matter in her life 4 to 6 years from now? what if your sister has never heard of digital angel?

so believe me i DONT take opinions or criticisms to heart. if you dont like it guess what? DONT BUY IT WHEN ITS RELEASED!!! lol! its plain and simple. i dont like master p do you think he cares if a person on the internet likes him or not? i dont like nelly do you think he cares if a person on a bbs likes him or not?

you are 1 person out of the 6 billion people on the planet earth. i may not be able to push a unit into your hands. however i have the other billions who are potential prospects,buyers.

you are one person on a message board. rest assured that your opinions have no bearing on my business moves.

let me explain something to you.

1.the bay area is SATURATED with rappers who all sound the same.

i dont sound like ANY bay rapper or metal band.

2.as far as i know i am the ONLY person in the bay (besides PAPA ROACH) who is mixing metal and rap (not to mention that im black and SOLO).

3.controversey AND truth sells and you dont know what the hell i said in the other verses.

now i have once again moved up in the ranks of iuma.com im constantly in the top 100. thanks for downloading and listening because you contributed to me staying in the top 100 on the site.

i would also like to thank everyone who is getting at me on PM and email. i will get to you shortly.


@sgt hustle dont let him get to you. also i need to send you something in the pb box so check it asap.


@x thats cool bro. do your thing.


HERESY
 

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by the way no one insulted you. this is BUSINESS everyone isnt going to like me. everyone isnt going to like $hort. everyone DOESNT like e-40(i dont like him but he doesnt get the rec he deserves) everyone doesnt like krs,everyone doesnt like nelly or lil zane(<----pac wanna be) nor does everyone like nerds.

we need something DIFFERENT than i just smoked a blunt,im riding on 20's,i just got blowed off the map by this whore,i have hella guns,i push coke music. 96% of the cats coming like that dont live that life.

heresy=unorthodox views. saying that BUSH planned 9-11 and carried it out is VERY unorthodox.....

now to break it down and put your post to rest one last time i will give you this analogy.

i place a business add in a paper that has 25,000 subscriptions. out of those 25,000 how many will actually see my add when its other adds in the paper?

lets say 15,000 see it. out of those 15,000 how many will actually take the time to READ the add?

lets say 5,000.

out of that 5,000 how many will actually take the time to CALL about the add and see if my SERVICES/GOODS suits their NEEDS?

lets say 2,000. out of that 2,000 how many will actually WANT to buy the product or whatever it is im advertising? lets say 1,269.

those 1,269 are the people i want to build a relationship with. those are the ones i want to keep in touch with. with the others i cant worry about why they dont like it. they dont NEED my services so why worry about them?????????????


i hope you can understand this SIMPLE analogy.



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I like eshams metal better. I liked body count even more than that but if that was you on the guitar I'd say thats where you can sell records.

Also I think that it is good that you attempt to inform in your music. The best music is always based on progression tward a positive undertanding of the world around you.
 
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heresy: you ain't gonna reach that many people through metal. Most people that listen to metal are either to gone to understand what your saying or don't really care.
 

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@ep the FIRST time i heard of esham was in december of 2000. i was already doing my thing in 1998. after i heard judgement day vol 1 i went back and researched his albums and accompliehments. he was THE FIRST with a DOUBLE CD. not pac. the man does what i do. he makes the music,writes the music and lyrics,plays the instruments,mixes it etc etc etc.

they are trying to get him to perform at the PHOENIX (petaluma CA) and if it goes down its a STRONG possibility that i WILL open for him.

i wouldnt mind getting down with the cat. are views are similar yet different. i dont endorse "SATAN". i dont think he knows much about the REAL occult. i was reading some article and he was like he doesnt believe in satan or god. he does it to get people upset... interesting.

@d-styles the people can be hit as long as its marketed to them correctly. i can sell you dirt if you have a need for it and i make it appealing.


RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE(THEY ARE BROKEN UP BUT THEY PRETTY MUCH HAD THE SAME MESSAGE AS I DO)

KID ROCK (HAS A NEW ALBUM COMING OUT)

COLD PLAY (JUST DROPPED IT)

DISTURBED (JUST DROPPED IT)

CREED ("CHRISTIAN" OR "GOD BELIEVEING ROCKERS" JUST DROPPED AN ALBUM)

CYPRUS HILL (DROPPED ONE LAST YEAR AND IT GETS HELLA PLAY ON THE ALTERNATIVE CHANNELS)

PAPA ROACH (JUST DROPPED A NEW ALBUM)

I CAN REACH PEOPLE. HOW MANY SOLO BLACK ARTIST ARE DOING METAL/RAP?????

HOW MANY METAL/RAP ARTIST DO YOU SEE IN THE BAY AREA????

DONT SAY WHAT *CANT* BE DONE. BECAUSE IT *CAN* AND WILL BE DONE. WE HAVE 6 BILLION ON THE EARTH. PEOPLE WILL LISTEN............

ESPECIALLY WITH THE WORLD AS IT IS........A SONG AND VIDEO ABOUT MOLESTATION?????

A SONG AND VIDEO ABOUT MARTYRS?

A SONG AND VIDEO ABOUT BUSH DOING 9-11??????


IM ACTUALLY AT THE RIGHT PLACE......AT THE RIGHT TIME.......


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Sep 7, 2002
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Hannibal said:
so how can they be "original
hahahaha!!!

Original huh, you fuckin originality. Aight, compare alllll of the music you here on MTV, BET, Radio, and even some Nothern Cal music. Compare all of those bullshit sounds you be hearing constantly, to hersay's sounds(my fault if i fucked up on your name)

You hear any difference??? No???

Then you a fuckin idiot. Those lil faggot ass sounds you hear on tv, are called presets and the only keyboard they fuckin use (triton, with no moss board) Them shits is 15 minute microwave beats that a fuckin monkey can make. On the other hand, it seems as if this man's music is well scripted. Meaning, he took a long fuckin time on makin his own sounds. Those lil sounds you hear in the backround, takes a looooong time to make. Sometimes I spend an easy hour or two just to make one sound. no joke

I respect your opinion n all, not everyones gonna like your music. The bottom line is, you need to the word "original" out of your mothafuckin vocabulary. Cuz obviously, you dont know shit about originality and creativity based on music.

This is the main reason why up and coming new producers or artist have a hard time makin it to the top. Becuase of hard headed mothafuckas like handball. And theres millions of em. Thats a whole nother topic.

I admit, I'm no heavy metal fan. But damn that shit was sounded vicious. Keep on doin what you doin, and fuck what they say.

peace
 
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HERESY said:
@d-styles the people can be hit as long as its marketed to them correctly. i can sell you dirt if you have a need for it and i make it appealing.
ONLY if your backed by a major label. Otherwise your out of luck and are just one of the other countless independent artists that don't go anywhere.
 
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^^i can agree with that. the market is saturated with bullshit, crap, terrible music. that's the problem. but there are small labels that manage to make a decent amount of money from touring small venues and catering to a cult-like fan base that loves them. it is do-able, but independents can't sit at home with a box of fliers and some some garbage music they made on their casio and expect to get fans. not everyone can be a rapper. folks need to get the business side down first to even have a chance. no more one-dimentional artistry. you have to be multi-dimentional in your skills both creatively and on the business side.
 
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I think its pretty cool.

I do see(hear) a similarity to some things ive heard.

AT THE SAME TIME: you got to analyze the lyrics. THE SOUND of the music is like others, but HERESY has a different sound than others.

SADLY many people only check music and listen a second time if the beat is tight.

ALSO many people (even Christians) dont read the bible. I do, even tho i dont buy it, i can get something out of this and will listen to more.
 

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tongan. if i directed you to most of the subliminals word will get out and 99% of rappers will try to do it. the ONLY person (besides me on this board)who has or WILL have insight on WHERE the messages are and HOW they were places is myself and SGT HUSTLE.

people WILL go back and study and write the lyrics down and read them and come up with A LOT of tripped out things.

once the ball is in place i will be able to reveal the trump card. yes people have used subliminals b4. however what i am doing is something KNOWONE has done in the music biz. why?


THEY DONT KNOW MATH.

thats your clue i will fill you in later.

by the way tongan listen to SATANIC VERSES. especially when i say "make war with saints crush them". thats not the ONLY thing im saying.

@blight good lookin out man. blight the average "christian" will hate this music. they will call it devil music. the christians on THIS site have accepted and they know what im getting at. however followers of creflo dollar,benny hinn,swagert,pat robinson....basically your 501 c 3 pew sitters will lynch me.

JUDGEMENT STARTS IN THE HOUSE OF GOD. church folks beware.......



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as much as i dont like your politics you impress me with your style. you exude such confidence, ooo im taken abacc.

i wanna read the lyrics now, i like puzzles damnit errrr. i dont wanna be interested aaaaah

post the lyrics nigga post them damnit errrrghaaah!!!
 
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Maybe im on a different level than them. I can get something out of the music...

Anyone should peep something that can radically change or at least strongly challenge your religous faith. Good or bad taken from your context and learning of the ways.