He only killed Spics and Wetbacks...Ronald Reagan is our HERO

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The United States invites the charge of hypocrisy when it accuses "enemy leaders" of war crimes, while it turns a blind eye to equally horrific slaughters committed by allies, sometimes guided and protected by the U.S. government.
With release of truth commission reports in several Central American countries - most recently Guatemala - there can no longer be any doubt about the historical reality.

In the 1980s, U.S.-backed forces committed widespread massacres, political murders and torture. Tens of thousands of civilians died. Many of the dead were children. Soldiers routinely raped women before executing them.

There can be no doubt, too, that President Reagan was an avid supporter of the implicated military forces, that he supplied them with weapons and that he actively sought to discredit human rights investigators and journalists who exposed the crimes.

It is also cleat that the massacres at El Mazote and other villages across El Salvador, the destruction of more than 600 Indian communities in Guatemala, and the torture and "disappearances" of dissidents throughout the region were as horrible as what Slobadan Milosevic's Serb army has done in Kosovo.

But for Milosovic and his henchmen, there is talk of a war crimes tribunal. For Reagan, there are only honors, his name added to National Airport and etched into an international trade center, even a congressional plan to carve his visage into Mount Rushmore.

In the apt phrase of New York Times correspondent Raymond Bonner, the 1980s were a time of "weakness and deceit." Yet, the continuing blindness to crimes against humanity in Central America in the 1980s has brought that weakness and deceit into and through the 1990s, now as a permanent trait of Washington's political class.

Without doubt, it is safer for an American journalist or politician to wag a finger at Milosovic or at the killers in Rwanda or at the Khmer Rouge than it is to confront the guilt that pervaded Ronald Reagan's presidency.

Reagan, after all, has a throng of ideological enthusiasts - many with opinion columns and seats on weekend chat shows. Nothing makes them madder than to hear their hero disparaged.

To suggest that Reagan should be held to the same moral standard as Milosovic also invites lectures about "moral equivalence," a clever construct of the 1980s that meant, in effect, that the Cold War justified whatever American policy-makers did. One must not equate "our" crimes with "theirs."
Ironically, many of the conservatives who today advocate rock-hard moral values and who deplore fuzzy moral relativism embraced exactly that sort of situational ethic in the 1980s.

They did so under the banner of the Reagan doctrine, which held that battling the Evil Empire sanctified all actions no matter what other moral laws were violated, like some Medieval crusade, blessed by the pope and then sent off to slaughter infidels.

In this context, murder of unarmed civilians was not wrong. Neither were assassinations, torture, genocide, rape and drug smuggling. indeed, nothing was wrong as long as it was done in the name of winning the Cold War.

It didn't matter that the Soviet Union was in steep decline before the 1980s. It didn't matter that there never was a master plan for conquering the United States through Central America. It didn't matter that most of the victims simply wanted basic rights that North Americans take for granted.
But even more corrupting in its own way was the slippery refusal to debate the rationalizations openly. While the "moral equivalence" debate captivated some intellectual circles, the Reagan administration's basic strategy was simply to lie.

Rather than defending the atrocities, Reagan and his loyalists most often just denied that the crimes had happened and attacked anyone who said otherwise as a communist dupe.

Mostly, this lying strategy worked. By the end of the Reagan-Bush era, the national media no longer put up any fight for these historic truths. By the 1990s, the star reporters were more dedicated to their careers than to the principles of their profession.

Not surprisingly, therefore, the shocking historical disclosures form Guatemala earned only brief notice in the major news outlets.

But in our view, there are two important principles here: first, that truth is fundamental to a healthy democracy, and second, that the rules of common decency must be applied to all human endeavors. There are some acts that are simply wrong no matter who does them and why.
Through much of this century, those principles were held by many in Washington. Under those ideals, the United States led the fight against Nazi Germany and established many of the basic principles of international law.

... The larger question is whether the United States can confront its complicity in shameful war crimes committed against the people of Latin America.

While no one expects the ailing Ronald Reagan to face a war crimes tribunal, it is time for the nation to face the painful truth about him and his presidency - and to stop rewarding him with high honors...

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Some of you siccness members are a complete waste of human flesh. Nothing more than Zombies, blindly listening to whatever the propaganda tube inserts in your brains.
Non-stop coverage of the greatest president who ever lived, Ronald Reagan. Be prepared to be heavily dosed with "Reaganomics" for the continuing weeks.

My time is near.
 
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Rest in Piss to the Killer, Coward, Con-Man: Good Riddance Gipper

--More proof that only the good die young.

Greg Palast, June 6, 2004

http://gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=336&row=0

You're not going to like this. You shouldn't speak ill of the dead.
But in this case, someone's got to.

Ronald Reagan was a conman. Reagan was a coward. Reagan was a killer.

In 1987, I found myself stuck in a crappy little town in Nicaragua
named Chaguitillo. The people were kind enough, though hungry, except
for one surly young man. His wife had just died of tuberculosis.

People don't die of TB if they get some antibiotics. But Ronald
Reagan, big hearted guy that he was, had put a lock-down embargo on
medicine to Nicaragua because he didn't like the government that the
people there had elected.

Ronnie grinned and cracked jokes while the young woman's lungs filled
up and she stopped breathing. Reagan flashed that B-movie grin while
they buried the mother of three.

And when Hezbollah terrorists struck and murdered hundreds of American
marines in their sleep in Lebanon, the TV warrior ran away like a
whipped dog . then turned around and invaded Grenada. That little Club
Med war was a murderous PR stunt so Ronnie could hold parades for
gunning down Cubans building an airport.

I remember Nancy, a skull and crossbones prancing around in designer
dresses, some of the "gifts" that flowed to the Reagans -- from hats
to million-dollar homes -- from cronies well compensated with
government loot. It used to be called bribery.

And all the while, Grandpa grinned, the grandfather who bleated on
about "family values" but didn't bother to see his own grandchildren.

The New York Times today, in its canned obit, wrote that Reagan
projected, "faith in small town America" and "old-time values."
"Values" my ass. It was union busting and a declaration of war on the
poor and anyone who couldn't buy designer dresses. It was the New
Meanness, bringing starvation back to America so that every
millionaire could get another million.

"Small town" values? From the movie star of the Pacific Palisades, the
Malibu mogul? I want to throw up.

And all the while, in the White House basement, as his brain boiled
away, his last conscious act was to condone a coup d'etat against our
elected Congress. Reagan's Defense Secretary Casper the Ghost
Weinberger with the crazed Colonel, Ollie North, plotted to give guns
to the Monster of the Mideast, Ayatolla Khomeini.

Reagan's boys called Jimmy Carter a weanie and a wuss although Carter
wouldn't give an inch to the Ayatolla. Reagan, with that film-fantasy
tough-guy con in front of cameras, went begging like a coward
cockroach to Khomeini pleading on bended knee for the release of our
hostages.

Ollie North flew into Iran with a birthday cake for the maniac mullah
-- no kidding --in the shape of a key. The key to Ronnie's heart.

Then the Reagan roaches mixed their cowardice with crime: taking cash
from the hostage-takers to buy guns for the "contras" - the
drug-runners of Nicaragua posing as freedom fighters.

I remember as a student in Berkeley the words screeching out of the
bullhorn, "The Governor of the State of California, Ronald Reagan,
hereby orders this demonstration to disperse" . and then came the
teargas and the truncheons. And all the while, that fang-hiding grin
from the Gipper.

In Chaguitillo, all night long, the farmers stayed awake to guard
their kids from attack from Reagan's Contra terrorists. The farmers
weren't even Sandinistas, those 'Commies' that our cracked-brained
President told us were 'only a 48-hour drive from Texas.' What the
hell would they want with Texas, anyway?

Nevertheless, the farmers, and their families, were Ronnie's targets.

In the deserted darkness of Chaguitillo, a TV blared. Weirdly, it was
that third-rate gangster movie, "Brother Rat." Starring Ronald Reagan.

Well, my friends, you can rest easier tonight: the Rat is dead.

Killer, coward, conman. Ronald Reagan, good-bye and good riddance.

--Greg Palast is author of the New York Times bestseller, "The Best
Democracy Money Can Buy."
"West Wing staffers call Bush and Ashcroft 'the Blues Brothers' because
"they're on a mission from God.""

--Capitol Hill Blue
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artm...icle_4636.shtml
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I know you mean well in this thread, and you are trying to let people know the truth, but did you really have to title it
"He only killed Spics and Wetbacks" :confused: ?? Anyways good shit on this info I was about to post up the same thread last night but i wanted to get some more articles. :cool:
 
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Facts and supporting evidence please. It's important to note that this is one man's "opinion", obviously he doesn't like republicans too much because from the looks of your signature he has some works about Bush also. That's propaganda, I thought you weren't intrested in what other people had to say.

SOME OF YOU SICCNESS MEMBERS IS A COMPLETE WASTE OF HUMAN FLESH. NOTHING MORE THAN ZOMBIES, BLINDLY LISTENING TO WHATEVER THE PROPAGANDA TUBE INSERTS INTO YOUR BRAIN--20SIXX

How are you gonna accuse someone of something and you're doing it yourself? I've seen more articles posted of what someone else said from you than anyone else on this forum. You're lame.
 
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As I stated on the other Reaganomics thread, I have already posted facts and evidence as well as others. You want to learn, hit THIS thread and learn about Latin America. Skip down to ColdBloodeds posts and learn about your beloved dead president. You want more, do a search for Reagan and Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador, Panama, Grenada, Lebanon, etc.

I'm still waiting on your details regading how "Reagan defeated the Soviets."
 
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You ain't waiting for shit, ya got it! I'm off to the next subject cause you're not worth my time dawg lol. Fucc that thread I've already read that bootsy ass shit lol. I don't give a fucc what the next muthafucca said or some bullshit article. Especially a biased person who's view is based soley on a political party, man I got more important shit to do like breakin shit down and come up with my own opinion based on "facts and supporting evidence", something you lacc.

Beloved president, who said anything about him being great in my eyes?? lol. i was just supporting the point that he defeated the soviets. stop with the accusations already man in an attempt to gain leverage, shit's played out already. sideways
 
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Alright Locc, why don’t you go back to the “blocc” and handle your business then? You can’t even handle anything remotely negative about your beloved dead president. Why? You think he was the best president? You think he’s nice and clean, spotless of any dirt?
You think I’m making this shit up? Those hundreds of thousands of dead people in Latin America I single handedly made up and spread around the internet, writing thousands of articles all by myself just to trick some brainless internet wannabe Loc. You’re a fool. Pick up a book and educate yourself. Gain knowledge comrade.

“Fucc that thread I've already read that bootsy ass shit lol.”

You know damn well you clicked on that link and saw too many words and gave up. I know its difficult “Loc”, but give it a try.
 
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I can't handle anything remotely negative about my beloved president? Do I think he's spotless? Do I think he's the best president??? You don't read too good do you? Maybe you're the one who sees too many words and immediately goes to typing your retarded ass post. Puttin' quotation marks around the word "loc" and "blocc" to try degrade me cause I'm "not like you" so to say. You're fuccin' simple man. I guess there's no intelligent brothas in the hood either huh? We are all "spics and wetbaccs", right? Give up man you succ dicc.

How long you think I've been around this board, Apr 2004? Take in the big picture and quit being so narrow minded. I didn't say I just "now" read tha shit, I said I "already" read the shit. Learn how to read the material placed in front of you.

P.S. This post was anotha classic of yours, you done nothing but attacced me as a person and you don't know shit about me. If I was some fake wannabe "______" (fill in da blank) I'd bite off that shit but you showed your own ignorance. My job here is done, ya know.
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Internet thugs get slugs from that nigga you love to hate// Tryin' to degrade my name, it's clear you ain't up for debate// You hyprocritical, I seen on one post you told dude God Bless you// I had to expose your whole persona, cause you softer than toilet tissue// You an athiest, man please you tryin' to sound hard// Tell tha truth, you still soul searchin' tryin' to find out who you are// All I heard is biased opinions, you haven't yet given "one" valuable argument// screamin' show me facts, but none of your own, like you reign judgement// ya an fluent article poster, I've yet seen you post your own words// the fake o'reilly, tryin' to talk bout religion- politics- and wars// I live tha life while you sit and type words in da suburbs// You make me wonder, what's your highest level of education// Since I'm in tha "hood" your deliberation shouldn't be so complicated// Bouncin' between subjects, it's not hard man sticc to da topics//If you havin' so much trouble, I'd advise you to drop it// Diggin' yourself in a deeper ditch cause you look ignorant tryin' to find avenues//Pay your dues fool, when did wetbaccs & spics-- my affiliation w/ gangs become an issue//that's usually the last line of defense in a weak mans attacc// I'll destroy your post like Reagan done tha soviets, what ya think bout that//
 
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Man Reagan actions in Central America helped bring the killings, rapings, kidnappings, and much more to hundreds of thousands there.
Plus he was the one giving weapons to Iraq 2 fight Iran well selling missles to Iran to raise $ 4 the killaz of thousands in central America that Reagan supported
 
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Lol, this guy had to make a little song rather than debate.

I asked you from the start to explain in detail how Reagan defeated the Soviets. You’ve wasted all this time dancing around that question. Unless you back your claims up, your posts are meaningless. HERE is the link that points out exactly when and why I asked the question. You’ve replied 5-6 times now without any reasoning, besides some generic shit you heard in school or T.V. Details comrade, details.

I’m sure both of us will agree that arguing back and forth like this is pointless. So, if you would like to continue a serious debate regarding Reagan and the Soviets, lets do so. If not, stop wasting my time.

Just for the record I’ll go through your little rhymes.

Internet thugs get slugs from that nigga you love to hate// Tryin' to degrade my name, it's clear you ain't up for debate//
Who’s the internet thug and when did I degrade your name? Remember, I never insulted you until you called me a “joke.” I never disrespect any siccness members unless they disrespect me first. (except for Mcleanhatch).

You hyprocritical, I seen on one post you told dude God Bless you//
When did I EVER say “god bless you” to anyone and was I being sarcastic?

You an athiest, man please you tryin' to sound hard// Tell tha truth, you still soul searchin' tryin' to find out who you are//
Why would I try and sound hard by saying I’m an Atheist? Atheism comes from my years of exploring, research, logical thinking etc.
You probably don’t even understand what Atheism means.
Go read a bible or something. My Atheism should have nothing to do with this conversation.

ya an fluent article poster, I've yet seen you post your own words//
Is that right? Do a search for my 3,000 plus posts and see if that statement is true. Remember comrade; I’m not the only “article poster” on the board.

I'll destroy your post like Reagan done tha soviets, what ya think bout that//
Destroy it then, I’d like to see it. Shit, you can’t even post details about Reagan and the Soviets.
 
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"La la la I'm a Republican la la la I don't want to hear it."

"Hey Republican, Bush is gonna nuke Canada!"

"La la Ten Commandments la la la"

"Hey Republican, the Iraq war is going to cost us trillions in compunding debt!"

"La la la you're a libby lib la la la time to turn on some Limbaugh la la la"

"Hey Republican, Reagan killed thousands in Central and South America"

"La la la liberal media la la You're just biased la la"

"Hey Republican, a piano is going to fall on your head!"

"La la la Wonder what's on O'Reilly today la la la"

"Hey Republican, One Dead Reagan...more important than 50,000 dead Nicauraguans?"

"La la la of course la la la"
 

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lmao@ contagious loc turning this into a freestyle battle or some shit...i didnt read that, but kust knowing its there is hilarious.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Yes, GOD BLESS YOU TYPCEE!
Hey, on the real...are those camel spiders real?
You could easily say you were being sarcastic, but due to the nature of that post, I doubt it. We both know what's up.

A serious debate you're pulling my leg, right? You could easily sit up here and say WELL LOCC YOU SAID THAT YOU COULD PROVE REAGAN DEFEATED THE SOVIETS BUT YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME ANY FACTS OR SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. DETAILS, DETAILS. That's not "YOUR PLACE" in a debate, you're not the judge, you're an opponent. As an opponent you have to engage in an argument by DISCUSSING OPPSOING POINTS, feel me? That's a debate, otherwise you're the one waisting my time. You have to find faults in what I'm saying, and vice versa. If they're not facts, then prove me wrong, that's deliberation.

I have no problem w/ droppin' tha subject b/c I bet some of these niggaz wish we would shut tha fucc up about it already and that's cool cause I don't like talkin' bout simple shit like this for too long anyways, but if you wanted a "serious" debate, man it's nothing.
 
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Contagious Locc said:
You could easily say you were being sarcastic, but due to the nature of that post, I doubt it. We both know what's up.
If you can't see that I was being Sarcastic than I don't know what to tell you man. First off, TYPCEE knows I'm Atheist, 2nd everyone was saying "god bless you" blah blah blah, and I came and said the same shit...that's why immediately after I said "Hey, on the real..."

A serious debate you're pulling my leg, right? You could easily sit up here and say WELL LOCC YOU SAID THAT YOU COULD PROVE REAGAN DEFEATED THE SOVIETS BUT YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME ANY FACTS OR SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. DETAILS, DETAILS. That's not "YOUR PLACE" in a debate, you're not the judge, you're an opponent. As an opponent you have to engage in an argument by DISCUSSING OPPSOING POINTS, feel me? That's a debate, otherwise you're the one waisting my time. You have to find faults in what I'm saying, and vice versa. If they're not facts, then prove me wrong, that's deliberation.
What do you think I've been trying to do this entire time? From the start I asked you for details so that I can have a debate you! You said some real vague shit and I asked you to elaborate, expand your points, details etc.

I have no problem w/ droppin' tha subject b/c I bet some of these niggaz wish we would shut tha fucc up about it already and that's cool cause I don't like talkin' bout simple shit like this for too long anyways, but if you wanted a "serious" debate, man it's nothing.
Ok, lets have a serious discussion here. Can you please explain to me how Reagan defeated the Soviets?
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
What do you think I've been trying to do this entire time? From the start I asked you for details so that I can have a debate you! You said some real vague shit and I asked you to elaborate, expand your points, details etc.
Ok, lets have a serious discussion here. Can you please explain to me how Reagan defeated the Soviets?
I don't know what you tryin' to do, but this right here is just gonna go around in circles. I told you what I believe were facts now it's up to you to prove me wrong. It's not a hard concept, I provide you oppose wit your points. You know what man, I'll tell you what. Lets start off by you telling me who you believe is responsible for the defeat of the Soviets and we'll build from there. I've told you who I believe was responsible now tell me yours. I think that's pretty fair.