GUNS DOWN MICS UP - STOP THE VIOLENCE BENEFIT FRI. 3/14 - THE JACKA, SUMTHIN TERRIBLE

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wow....im gonna be real i was just speakin from what i see n know and funny shit radiostationrep is alot of my folks from tha concord area....shit homie say what you want but im originaly from martinez,but that dont mean much....i have spent some time in concord and unless you have lived there you wouldnt know how it is....im in my early 20's and ive seen it all and done my fair share of shit....most of tha shit aint nothin to be proud of but it is what it is....i didnt evin know this shit was bein held in concord,but i know a few real hoggz from tha C,i fuck wit mothafuckaz from everywear,state 2 state....


anyway thats my thoughts on that shit...

but like i was tryin ta say fools talkin bout murder tha first n peace tha next is crazy to me...either way tho there is always room for change
 

C-4

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suburbia is where the influence is. not the streets. they need to be doing shows on e 14th at some local bars in oakland and spread that word. but reality most the cats on here wouldnt throw a crayon in a pre-school riot. thats why they do shows in concord. not all though dont get it twisted. but who you touching doing the same weak ass shows weak after week in concord.. i see this place as a siccness groupie party for most. lets pretend for a night were hustlers and act important. this is the kinda shit that fucks the bay scene up imo.

you keep talkin about how nobody could be reached by doing an event like this in an area like concord, and you say that the events should be held in the heart of the hoods, but the truth is, you CANT hold events like this in the hoods, it would get shut down, or wouldn't happen at all period. you wanna do a show on E. 14th or in the Rich or EPA? you can't do that shit, that shit would either get shut down before it started, or somethin would happen and some violence would take place and make the area worse than it was before. and the truth is most of the clubs and night spots in the hood areas are being shut down because of this, because people don't know how to act, people are being killed at these spots. so what you say is a nice thought, but it's a fairy tale, it can't happen. and another fact is, there are a lot of artists within the Bay and outside of it that will not even set foot in Oakland or San Francisco to do a show

you say we only do things in the suburbs and we're not reaching anyone, first of all, our shows bring people out from EVERY city in the Bay and EVERY hood in the Bay, and we bring people together, and they coexist at our events, second, with shows like this, we know we're not in the middle of the hood, but the event and the venue can be used to raise money and awareness to be given and put directly into ways to help the hoods and the youth in the communities.

you say we do the same "Weak ass" shows all the time, man in the last year alone we have done over 50 shows. this is our first one with Mr. Sandman and his Guns Down Mics Up organization, but myself and Daddy Rich have done over 50 shows, and in those shows along with regular performances and parties, we have done charity benefits for Stay In School, Food Drives on Thanksgiving, Toy and Clothing Drives at Christmas, Music Industry Panel Discussions and a lot more.

Sandman is doing something positive with this, he already has a lot of other events on the horizon but he brought this one to us and we were proud to be a part of it, why not show a positive side to hip-hop. Like he said before, us in the rap industry don't have to be role models, but we can know that we can help to guide the youth that looks up to us.

you're another one of the people who are sitting here complaining about us trying to do something positive, why do that, stop pointing the finger and asking why this and why that, look at yourself, what are you doing?
 
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it aint where you from, but where you at.

wow....im gonna be real i was just speakin from what i see n know and funny shit radiostationrep is alot of my folks from tha concord area....shit homie say what you want but im originaly from martinez,but that dont mean much....i have spent some time in concord and unless you have lived there you wouldnt know how it is....im in my early 20's and ive seen it all and done my fair share of shit....most of tha shit aint nothin to be proud of but it is what it is....i didnt evin know this shit was bein held in concord,but i know a few real hoggz from tha C,i fuck wit mothafuckaz from everywear,state 2 state....


my point is theres a 100 murders a year in oakland and frisco. richmond is up there too. its the inner cities that have gun violence problems. theres fools everywhere. but a majority of this violence isnt in concord or anyother city besides a few. you could probably take every city in the bay and add up the gun violence and it doesnt equal those couple by themselves. yeah you do have shootings everywhere but it isnt that consistent. as far the concord comment, its the same fools week after week at this time out.who you really reaching out to? that place couldnt hold more than 100 people inside. theres a hundred of these siccness brotherans there everytime. i have family out there and am in concord quite often. right off monument. thats probably the grimiest area in concord. i dont worry about catching a stray bullet like i would if i was in oakland or frisco, or richmond..
 

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my point is theres a 100 murders a year in oakland and frisco. richmond is up there too. its the inner cities that have gun violence problems. theres fools everywhere. but a majority of this violence isnt in concord or anyother city besides a few. you could probably take every city in the bay and add up the gun violence and it doesnt equal those couple by themselves. yeah you do have shootings everywhere but it isnt that consistent. as far the concord comment, its the same fools week after week at this time out.who you really reaching out to? that place couldnt hold more than 100 people inside. theres a hundred of these siccness brotherans there everytime. i have family out there and am in concord quite often. right off monument. thats probably the grimiest area in concord. i dont worry about catching a stray bullet like i would if i was in oakland or frisco, or richmond..
man we hold the events in concord because they provide a venue that allows us to do so, there aren't many venues left that allow underground rap shows. and that shit is NOT GONNA HAPPEN in the middle of the hood like you keep preaching you want it to. that shit is murder waiting to happen, yes we know the worst areas are Richmond, Oakland and SF, but you can't do these kinds of shows there, just because of that.

and you keep saying we do the same shows every week and we aint reaching no one, NOT EVERY SHOW IS THE SAME. Last show was Daddy Rich's birthday party, were we trying to do a stop the violence show that night? NO, this wednesday we have another birthday party, is that a stop the violence show, NO. NOT EVERY SHOW IS THE SAME CAUSE OR CONCEPT. We do Album Release parties, birthday parties, and regular shows, along with the ones I mentioned before like AIDS BENEFITS, STAY IN SCHOOL SHOWS, CHRISTMAS TOY DRIVES, THANKSGIVING FOOD DRIVES, etc

and for your info we've had over 400 people in the Time Out before
 

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This is not a show for kids in the hood. Its a show where grown people allow other grown people to raise money, and that money will go towards helping with programs for the kids.
 

C-4

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oh yeah and by the way, for you who keep saying that we're holding the events at some powder puff spot in the suburbs, that club was shut down a couple years ago because of a shooting at one of our events, so there is not a place in the Bay Area that is immune to the ignorance and violence that takes place

it was shut down for over a year, and they would not touch hip-hop for over a year, but they know we are good people a do good events and started letting us do them again
 
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i like what sand man is representing.

you keep talkin about how nobody could be reached by doing an event like this in an area like concord, and you say that the events should be held in the heart of the hoods, but the truth is, you CANT hold events like this in the hoods, it would get shut down, or wouldn't happen at all period. you wanna do a show on E. 14th or in the Rich or EPA? you can't do that shit, that shit would either get shut down before it started, or somethin would happen and some violence would take place and make the area worse than it was before. and the truth is most of the clubs and night spots in the hood areas are being shut down because of this, because people don't know how to act, people are being killed at these spots. so what you say is a nice thought, but it's a fairy tale, it can't happen. and another fact is, there are a lot of artists within the Bay and outside of it that will not even set foot in Oakland or San Francisco to do a show

you say we only do things in the suburbs and we're not reaching anyone, first of all, our shows bring people out from EVERY city in the Bay and EVERY hood in the Bay, and we bring people together, and they coexist at our events, second, with shows like this, we know we're not in the middle of the hood, but the event and the venue can be used to raise money and awareness to be given and put directly into ways to help the hoods and the youth in the communities.

you say we do the same "Weak ass" shows all the time, man in the last year alone we have done over 50 shows. this is our first one with Mr. Sandman and his Guns Down Mics Up organization, but myself and Daddy Rich have done over 50 shows, and in those shows along with regular performances and parties, we have done charity benefits for Stay In School, Food Drives on Thanksgiving, Toy and Clothing Drives at Christmas, Music Industry Panel Discussions and a lot more.

Sandman is doing something positive with this, he already has a lot of other events on the horizon but he brought this one to us and we were proud to be a part of it, why not show a positive side to hip-hop. Like he said before, us in the rap industry don't have to be role models, but we can know that we can help to guide the youth that looks up to us.

you're another one of the people who are sitting here complaining about us trying to do something positive, why do that, stop pointing the finger and asking why this and why that, look at yourself, what are you doing?
as far as you i really cant call it cause i dont know you. but from what i see on this website you seem to be a rap groupie, no offense. 50 shows is cool. trying give back is cooler. but the same burnt cats apearing and lying to eachother all night isnt what i call progress. this bay area rap game is full of broken down hustlers thinking music will make something happen. but you aint broken down 4 a reason imo. as far as doing shows in the hood, a cat like you couldnt, your 100% right. it takes someone with some real support in the streets to create a movement like you think you got going on. as far as what im doing? i take care of family and my kids come first player. i got a real hustle and pay my bills. i dont go to the club everyweekend like i dont have a life. i dont live with moms, sisters, cuzzins, none of that. i guess you could say im a MAN. not being hella old throwing up the west side broke as fuck sucking another rappers cock like im a teenager. something positive you could do for self is #1 quit lying to yourself. i dont think im nobody special. i do me. 24/7 all day. 50 shows and what you got to show for it? kids that reckognize you? you can have thAT. a venue that lets you bring the same people back 50 times you can have that. im about real issues and real progress and frankly from what ive seen on this board for 5 years makes me sick. but hey when you can shoot shit all day and not lose sleep over it like i can, its really nothing. im about educating people not lying to them. your right i am complaining because i could never support another bay artist until they seperate themselves from the lames like you!
 
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oh ok.

This is not a show for kids in the hood. Its a show where grown people allow other grown people to raise money, and that money will go towards helping with programs for the kids.
post some reciepts and numbers to organizations the money is being donated to! its not about the places you throw these events. its the cats behind it in it for all the wrong fucking reasons cool grown adults! and im not talking just canned goods and toys for x-mas. lets see some real cash being donated from one of your shows.
 
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imo.

if these shows were really about positive things those places would allow to hold them. im mean fuck kontact got an event at the arena in san jose. a real venue. i know what hes doing is right. sandman and him could definately help eachother imo because its possible they come from different backgrounds.
 
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its called sacrafice.

man we hold the events in concord because they provide a venue that allows us to do so, there aren't many venues left that allow underground rap shows. and that shit is NOT GONNA HAPPEN in the middle of the hood like you keep preaching you want it to. that shit is murder waiting to happen, yes we know the worst areas are Richmond, Oakland and SF, but you can't do these kinds of shows there, just because of that.
you have to sacraifice to gain player! a few more murders to stop 1,000 senseless ones is worth it imo. but i dont think you would know about sacrifice. kids sacrafice there lifes for there hood everyday thinking its right. education, education, education! you got me on one now so bring whatever you got cause i got it for days. this is just the beggining.
 
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then why do you support that same ignorance and violence?

oh yeah and by the way, for you who keep saying that we're holding the events at some powder puff spot in the suburbs, that club was shut down a couple years ago because of a shooting at one of our events, so there is not a place in the Bay Area that is immune to the ignorance and violence that takes place

it was shut down for over a year, and they would not touch hip-hop for over a year, but they know we are good people a do good events and started letting us do them again
why arent you educating and bringing in artists trying to educate like sandman more often if thats whats you about? im gonna quit though. good luck with your shows. shit if theres no passion it dont make sense imo.
 
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i recognize tha cause yall are aimin at and truth be told this kinda shit is needed in tha bay and all across tha nation.....do yall thang folkerz....theres drama and alot of real fucked up shit goin on in many citys in tha bay other then just tha more notorious citys mentioned previous....shit go's down everywear regardless of what mothafuckaz think.....im stayin out in colorado springs,co and we had 26 homicides in 07 now that may not be shit to some but shits mainie out here....
 
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i have family out there and am in concord quite often. right off monument. thats probably the grimiest area in concord. i dont worry about catching a stray bullet like i would if i was in oakland or frisco, or richmond..
well homie that all depends on youre affiliation,youre dress code and tha way you carry youre self.....if you outa pocket and you come across tha wrong niggaz somethin will happen to youre ass period....you may not get merked but you will go home cryin to youre fam....more then likely yo jaw will get smashed.....but dont get it twisted slugz fly it just aint on a day to day bases out there....but tha history of that town will show it go's down playa....my bad but i feel you tryin ta make fools look weak were im from and that is not tha case.....

and 4 tha record concord has a grip of fools from richmond,pittsburg ect livin there and rollin threw all day
 
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im not trying to make concord look weak.

well homie that all depends on youre affiliation,youre dress code and tha way you carry youre self.....if you outa pocket and you come across tha wrong niggaz somethin will happen to youre ass period....you may not get merked but you will go home cryin to youre fam....more then likely yo jaw will get smashed.....but dont get it twisted slugz fly it just aint on a day to day bases out there....but tha history of that town will show it go's down playa....my bad but i feel you tryin ta make fools look weak were im from and that is not tha case.....

and 4 tha record concord has a grip of fools from richmond,pittsburg ect livin there and rollin threw all day
its all good.