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Moon D

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I managed artist before it takes a team and communication. The Bay Area rap scene has like 10 people you can spend money with and shit can happen for you. If an artist or label can't spend at least $1500 a month your not moving anywhere. The Bay Area has some dope talent unless they hit the lottery with a super hit or get a distribution situation it's very hard for anyone to find out about them. After 8 years in the industry I realized people don't move unless they get paid I don't care how many hands you shake are business cards you stack people want to get paid. I see the top Bay Area managers outside of the Bay Area more then I do in the Bay because there getting that out of state money . The PR work for artist in the Bay is now done by DJ's are local promoters the scene is wide open for somebody who wants to work. To many people network online and not enough people get out there and hustle in the streets. You need to do both. Buy your local DJ a drink or a bottle and have him listen to your song you never know he might like it. Spend some money on your brand make people realize your are a business and your serious about this music and business. I talk to radio DJ's all the time and most of the time there not impressed with the shit they here. If you have a hot song and a good business plan behind it's easier to get noticed then saying hey Big Von play my record because I'm dope it don't work like that. You need to fuck with the people who have the relationships and can get you that introduction so they see your serious it's like this is my dude fuck with him.
I will say this working with an artist with a buzz or fan base is fun I got to travel across the country and get paid to work. You will be surprised how much love the Bay get's across the country it's just a lot of the times we don't have the business to capatalize on the opportunities offered. The Bay Area is the home of pimping so everybody feels they can pimp everybody it's like our strip no clubs nobody likes to break bread.
 
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Gemini

Gemini

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Moon D said:
I managed artist before it takes a team and communication. The Bay Area rap scene has like 10 people you can spend money with and shit can happen for you. If an artist or label can't spend at least $1500 a month your not moving anywhere. The Bay Area has some dope talent unless they hit the lottery with a super hit or get a distribution situation it's very hard for anyone to find out about them. After 8 years in the industry I realized people don't move unless they get paid I don't care how many hands you shake are business cards you stack people want to get paid. I see the top Bay Area managers outside of the Bay Area more then I do in the Bay because there getting that out of state money . The PR work for artist in the Bay is now done by DJ's are local promoters the scene is wide open for somebody who wants to work. To many people network online and not enough people get out there and hustle in the streets. You need to do both. Buy your local DJ a drink or a bottle and have him listen to your song you never know he might like it. Spend some money on your brand make people realize your are a business and your serious about this music and business. I talk to radio DJ's all the time and most of the time there not impressed with the shit they here. If you have a hot song and a good business plan behind it's easier to get noticed then saying hey Big Von play my record because I'm dope it don't work like that. You need to fuck with the people who have the relationships and can get you that introduction so they see your serious it's like this is my dude fuck with him.
I will say this working with an artist with a buzz or fan base is fun I got to travel across the country and get paid to work. You will be surprised how much love the Bay get's across the country it's just a lot of the times we don't have the business to capatalize on the opportunities offered. The Bay Area is the home of pimping so everybody feels they can pimp everybody it's like our strip no clubs nobody likes to break bread.
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It just seems like everybody wants to be paid for nothing. Money will not buy anybody into the music industry. And a whole lot of stupid independent rappers need to wake the fuck up & stop spending money on pipe dreams! Look at Benzino for instance. He and David Mays embezzled millions from The Source Magazine & put it behind promotion & big named features etc. & failed.

In 15 - 20 years after spending thousands of dollars thinking your were gonna blow up, your gonna feel hella stupid. Your going to walk into store & the dude who you paid back in the day, thinking he was a star or the dude that was gonna get you there is going to be working at that store. And your gonna end up hurting him or worse LOL!
 
Gemini

Gemini

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I still hold to what I said then. I need to see credentials / success. Don't ask me for money or offer a "service" for an amount of money and not follow through. Still sounds like a bogus deal to me.

After things don't go as planned and your songs never hit the airwaves, videos are not televised in rotation. The only shows you got were hole in the wall places that hold the capacity of 200, but your shows only had 30 to 40 people in attendance. Sometimes people didn't even show up.

After it's all said & done you gained an extra 10 to 16 fans & in comes the infamous line, "There are many levels of success. Success is not measured by radio & television alone. "

LMAO!!!!! smh
 
cookoo

cookoo

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Dana Dane said:
A lot of these newer artists don't even know what a real manager is, and for the most part, those of us who choose to 'manage' an artist today are doing a lot more than what a true manager would do. We tend to take on the role of manager, publicist, AR, and personal assistant. I agree with Grimm saying that some of the services need to be paid for up front, because a lot of what a 'manager' does these days doesn't involve any money changing hands (verse licks, show licks, etc.) but more promotion and internet marketing.

Take RJ for instance.. He works for 40 in management capacity, but you RARELY see him on here promoting shows or even too much promoting 40s albums. He's a manager, not a promoter, and 40 recognizes the difference and doesn't put RJ in that role.
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"Agreed!"
 
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