Goodbye United States

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and this shit ain't going to happen ....
You're right it won't as long as people oppose and fight it..

Some states in US already declared independence from the NAU and from the REAL ID act.

There is a lot of opposition behind the scenes.

It there were not good people who are on the side of Freedom.. they would've had a FULL world government since the year 2000.

And the whole population would have no right of any kind.

But since there are people who oppose and fight this, we are still have some freedom left.

Everyone should spread the word on this, and work to defeat it.

The Elite and not all mighty, and they can be defeated.

Down with the North American Union and REAL ID...

Bow down to the fucking Constitution... BITCH!
 
Dec 8, 2005
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off topic but the euro is not all its cracked up to be...

u.s. unemployment 2%
europes unemployment 10%

maybe thats why its so much stronger than other currences
my opinion its stronger than the dollar, at this time, because opec members are considering going off the dollar standard and towards the euro. this is further pushed by the uncertainty of the US election and our stance on the middle east. i also think this is a major reason we went after sadaam as he was thought to want to stop trading with the dollar in regards to oil. then you have the european trade block which represents stability, while the housing "crisis" ( i dont personally know anyone who has had to foreclose) shows the frailty of the once superpower. there is no instrinsic value in any of these currencies. if everyone in the world traded in their euros for the iraqi dinar it would be the strongest currency overnight.
 
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EU and U.S. don't calculate their unemployment numbers the same.

U.S. unemployment is much higher than 2% (example: if you give up looking for a job out of despair you are no longer unemployed)

Sorry to burst the bubble.
 
Mar 4, 2007
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so what would happen when there are you got the euro on one side and the amero on the other, till they merge those two into one currency?
we are gettin closer to a one world currency, and in return a one world government
we buy a bunch of gold for a continuous currency and get married to cut down costs and move in together?:ermm:

naaww, that would be too crazy....
 
Feb 15, 2007
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EU and U.S. don't calculate their unemployment numbers the same.

U.S. unemployment is much higher than 2% (example: if you give up looking for a job out of despair you are no longer unemployed)

Sorry to burst the bubble.

Its at 5%

but who really knows the real percentage

lol, i've had economics classes, i know what is and what is not unemployment
 

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http://spp.gov/

Apparently, not only has this officially happened (and the press just isnt allowed to report it yet) already, they've been planning this for over a decade.

No more dollar, no more national healthcare, no more BORDERS. North America is going to operate as one unit. WOW.
This isn't a secret buddy. The US, Canada, and Mexico have been talking about it for a while.

And it ain't gonna happen for 5-10 more years.

Paper money was being phased out years ago anyway.....what the FUCK does everyone think a DEBIT CARD is? No more paper trail.......fuck all that. I'll move out of the country to somewhere else if all this goes down. Probably to the Netherlands.
 
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How would our goverment help maintain Canada and Mexicos goverment when we can't even help out our own general population?
 
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should help eliminate child labor in Mexico and create adequit standardized working conditions.

Why are people so opposed to a standardized currency in North America? Just one more result of globalization (which has both many benefits and detriments)
 
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Any sort of multi-government coalition or drive leads to people on this website pointing towards some kind of stormtrooper master plan shit.

There were organizations like this before the Siccness, and they will be here after it, and proposing that their existence constitutes some kind of Darth Vader-like Empire is flat out goofball shit.
 

BASEDVATO

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May 8, 2002
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^ its not goofball. A lot of countrys suffered in the EU. Plus the EU is passing a lot of legislation that overides some of these countrys laws.

We as the people have nothing to gain if a NAU happens.

It'll be a more corupt federal govrement, over our federal govrement.



Its unbelievable this can happen without passing congress
 
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^ its not goofball. A lot of countrys suffered in the EU. Plus the EU is passing a lot of legislation that overides some of these countrys laws.

We as the people have nothing to gain if a NAU happens.


Its unbelievable this can happen without passing congress
What were the negative effects of the EU vs. the positive?

We have nothing to gain if the NAU happens? I know the conspiracy theorists see it as 3 governments and coalitions of large multi-national companies working to further enslave the populous with law and consumerism but is that a true concern?

American is supposed to be the "melting-pot" so what would happen if the borders opened and we shared a currency and a land mass? All of our children would be more inclined to learn spanish and french (canadian), which is practically the wet dream of upper class parents everywhere.

The downside would be the commercial development on many beautiful places in mexico. Monsanto's crazy genetic corn crop would have room and law to multiply. The policing of the populous might have to change into more of a military force in order to effectively control. So?

And we would probably need some type of national identity card so we can keep track of ourselves in the newly acquired lands. Possibly a micro-chip in the future.

I dunno, this is about where I've run out of ideas to encourage this discussion.
 

BASEDVATO

Judo Chop ur Spirit
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So you enjoy being controlled by elites? Not allowing your community to self sustain?


back to the EU: a few things i've researched:


The officials who control it, are not elected, and is fair to say they have corporate interest before public. Laws they pass get put into action without citizen or congress/parliament vote. Tax payer money gets lost into the that system.

The European Arrest Warrant means that a Brit can be accused of a crime that is not an offense in Britain, be arrested by foreign police at his home in Britain, and be held in a foreign jail pending trial under a code of justice that disregards habeas corpus.
EU police (Europol) are themselves immune from prosecution for any personal criminal acts.

theres a lot shit that is going to happen to us... its not a conspiracy. Why do you think there is many senate members trying to pass bills to prevent this?
 
Dec 18, 2002
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So you enjoy being controlled by elites? Not allowing your community to self sustain?
We are already controlled by elites are we not? At least very heavily influenced. And as far as I know, most communities are not self sustained unless cut off from the flow of resources this country has access to. (I.E town in the middle of nowhere) And do you see that changing without getting rid of capitalism altogether?

My last post was more of a joke than anything...I was trying to throw out ideas that make NAU even seem plausible or supportable. I just don't see it happening in the way that it is posed by people who make threads titled "Goodbye United States."