Global Warming: Who Cares About The Environment Anyway?

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Dec 25, 2003
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HiT-2-TiMeS said:
IMO this Richard Lindzen guy and Fred Singer make a much more convincing case than Al Gore and the so called consensus. I have read An Inconvenient Truth, and there was no substantive argument. The only thing it convinced me of is that a moderate warming trend is currently occuring (we have been coming out of an ice age). Now on the other hand reading this study and reading Singer's book there are TONS of flaws in the models they are using and basically huge holes in the theory. What did you guys read to get you so convinced?
I've been following environmental and global warming issues for years.

There is evidence for global warming fucking everywhere.

In every area of every continent. Ive read piles upon piles of papers, books, reports, all kinds of shit. Even where I live I have seen a significant change in the weather in the past 5 years.

This "coming out of an ice age" sit is bullshit. We have never seen such drastic, fast change in the earths temperature barring a major climactic event, of which we have had absolutely none.

Al Gore - the new conservative Beelzebub whose name is invoked in every single envrionmental discussion during the last 2 years, as if there is holy power in his liberal name - has nothing at all to do with what I believe about global warming, and I really doubt some fuckin mercenary denier for hire paper will change my mind.

I think something like 6 ounces of Carbon Monoxide can kill a full grown human. We put billions of tons of it in the air every single day, and that number is rising.

And we mention the fact that we put out Carbon Monoxide and other chemicals but we hardly talk about the wide, wide variances in the forms of chemicals we burn and the type of pollution we send up into the atmosphere daily.

We send up burnt rubber, burnt plastic, chemical byproducts, synthetic chemicals, organic pollutants, any and all forms of shit we send up in the air.

You know what would happen if they didnt filter the air in long car tunnels? People would break down on the side of the road, get out of their cars, and fucking drop dead. Multiply the amount of CO2 necessary to kill everyone in the immediate vicinity by about a billion, and you have an idea of how much shit we put up in the air daily, and that is *just* cars.

Yes there may be holes in the theory of global warming, but so fucking what?

What is the best evidence that we have right now? That the entire eearth is on a rapid warming trend the likes of which have never, ever been seen without cataclysmic worldwide meteorological events. The oceans are being taken over by algae and plankton. Bees are dying at a record pace. Plants and animals normally foreign to colder environments are slowly advancing toward the poles, and these sort of global changes are taking place at a rate faster than has ever been observed.

I dont see how one paper can change your mind about all that, but whatever.

If you really doubt that the shit we put up in the air is fucking up the environment, place your trust in George Bush, Shell, and the Global Warming deniers.

Place a large bag over your head and put it over the tailpipe of a running car. If you last 5 minutes, come back and tell me that we are not fucking up the environment. If you die, I win.

And like I said...multiply that amount needed to kill you by about 20 billion, and you have an idea of how much shit we put up every single day.
 
Feb 17, 2005
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I agree that pollution is bad. I agree that we should use cleaner energy and have better standards for cars, etc. I just think all this doom and gloom prediction is bullshit. I do not think they have the capability to make valid computer models of the atmosphere.

So do you have any reading you could recommend to me like specific studies, etc? I will read it.