Gang Fight Breaks Out When Jim Jones Says "Soowoop To The B-Gang" In L.A
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That may be, but Wayne himself iz a false-flaggin azz nigga. Erybody know this nigga used to be blued up like a smurf bacc in the cash money dayz. So aint no real niggaz fallin for it when 2008 roll around and this nigga wanna "super-suwoop".
And here'z my thing wit Wayne, I aint hatin no nigga for bein successful. Shit, if mufuccaz wanna buy hiz shit and put money in hiz poccet, then more power to him. But I dont like him and otherz tryna profit off the gangsta image when they aint really affiliated like that. Real G'z feel me. To quote Mitchy: "aint that cute, he got on the same flag my homie died for to match his suit". Some of us got niggaz thatz doin life, and thatz gave they life for this shit, so it aint coo when niggaz try and fake this shit. Just like if I see some lil civilian C-walkin in the club he gonna catch a fade. He didnt earn the right to do that shit. Some shit needz to be earned and some shit needz to be respected.
ps- no diss to you Roger, this about Wayne
And here'z my thing wit Wayne, I aint hatin no nigga for bein successful. Shit, if mufuccaz wanna buy hiz shit and put money in hiz poccet, then more power to him. But I dont like him and otherz tryna profit off the gangsta image when they aint really affiliated like that. Real G'z feel me. To quote Mitchy: "aint that cute, he got on the same flag my homie died for to match his suit". Some of us got niggaz thatz doin life, and thatz gave they life for this shit, so it aint coo when niggaz try and fake this shit. Just like if I see some lil civilian C-walkin in the club he gonna catch a fade. He didnt earn the right to do that shit. Some shit needz to be earned and some shit needz to be respected.
ps- no diss to you Roger, this about Wayne
wannabes have always existed...i say its better to extort them than it is to kick their asses every day....if the extorted wants to look at it as 'paying dues' or some weird shit, i dont know...as long as everyone eats..but with that said i would believe its every gangs individual job to decide what to do with someone like that
rap is shady, i dont know if rap and 'the real world' should have ever coexisted as much as it does...why youd even want to be a grown man and bang hella late in the game i will never understand...lil wayne aint 19 or nothin
and rap is the perfect stage for you to exagerrate your illegal activity like telling that shit to everyone is a smart move..oh well let lil wayne do him...he apparently likes to try new things...maybe next year he'll crip and be the first person ever whos both a crip and ablood at the same time..
with all this snitch shit going on in rap i wouldnt be implementing any rap dude into a gang...rappers should form a new gang...theres still alot of colors that have not been used...orange yellow turqoise..i mean take your pick
rap is shady, i dont know if rap and 'the real world' should have ever coexisted as much as it does...why youd even want to be a grown man and bang hella late in the game i will never understand...lil wayne aint 19 or nothin
and rap is the perfect stage for you to exagerrate your illegal activity like telling that shit to everyone is a smart move..oh well let lil wayne do him...he apparently likes to try new things...maybe next year he'll crip and be the first person ever whos both a crip and ablood at the same time..
with all this snitch shit going on in rap i wouldnt be implementing any rap dude into a gang...rappers should form a new gang...theres still alot of colors that have not been used...orange yellow turqoise..i mean take your pick
BIG WY INTERVIEW:
Styles: You are putting out the Soo-Whoop compilation album, but some have confused it for a Big Wy solo album. Just to clarify, this is not a Big Wy solo, right?
Big Wy: Right it's not but I have done a lot of production for it. This is a Checkmate Entertainment release. It’s just showcasing the main artists of what we call "The Soo-Whoop Movement" and introducing some new cats. With this album I wanted to show everybody my ear for music and to get together everybody that represents the Damu card. We do real music. It’s not just about gang-banging. People think that I just make gang-banging music. This is to set the record straight that we do other music.
Styles: First looking at the album and title some might think that this is like a Damu Riders Part 3 or something along that nature.
Big Wy: Right and that’s just because of the title. That’s cool because we are about representation but once they listen to it then they will get it. Mack 10, Jim Jones and the Game have all sold millions. It’s all about the music.
Styles: Are you still going to go with Damu Division as the first single? Whatever happened to that song "Big Boys" with you Mack, Jim and Game?
Big Wy: Damu Division with Glasses Malone is the first single even though G released that on his mixtape sometime back. Big Boys is for "my" album.
Styles: That’s for your solo album? I thought that was a Soo-Whoop Movement song.
Big Wy: Nah that’s for me. It started as a Soo-Woop album song in the beginning but I decided to separate that song from what we were doing on that album. We’re doing the Soo-Woop thing independently – Major labels probably think that we’re on some gang-bangin’ shit but it’s not that at all. Its bomb-ass music – everybody just happens to be Bloods. We are on right now. I’m doing this show that we all fuck with each other. Jim Jones and Mack 10 didn’t even know each other and now they have a single that’s out together with the both of them. That was my whole thing – I wanted to bring everybody together.
Styles: I imagine that you tried to take this album to different companies. Was there a lot of resistance?
Big Wy: Not really. We didn’t even try to shop it around. There isn’t a company out there that can say that we tried to bring this to them. We dealt with one as far as distribution was concerned but we always knew that we are doing this on our own. At first it was going to be like a mixtape type of project but I was like, "Fuck it. We might as well make it a real project." I went in on the producers end and started doing my thing and then I brought a few other cats in. Different relationships started being born amongst the Damu homies in the business and we made it what it is. Who else could have put together a record with June Dawg from the Figueroa Riders, Redrum and Messy Marv? The underground wouldn’t even know how to get that together? I’m the only one that could put together the first record between Young Hootie and Jay Rock. I got El Dorado Red with Shawty Lo on there.
Styles: Did you have any trouble at all or any type of resistance in bringing people together?
Big Wy: Naw because everybody on there, they know what it is. If you are what you say you are, then this is what you represent. Myself and Wacko, Checkmate Entertainment, our associates and people know who we are and what we are. This is what we are doing to represent who we are. Its no different than what the other side is doing. They all get together and do records together: The Dogg Pound, Snoop Dogg, Ice-T, WC, Tha Comrads, CJ Macc. All of these dudes are Crips. All I did was put a label on it because that’s how we address each other, Soo-Whoop. That term has gotten more known with the help of high profile artists and I’m going to show you what it really is from some of the real dudes that’s really with it and that have talent also.
Styles: A lot of fans have made statements in regards to high profile rappers who claim to be Bloods, questioning if they are real or not. Also if they are not real, then how can the real ones mess with them? What’s your whole take on that, you being a true O.G.?
Big Wy: I respect everybody’s opinions especially those that follow what we do, but at the same time a lot of the stuff that we on the streets have been doing and have grown up doing has been based on ignorance. Another thing that people have to understand is that a long time ago in the 80’s due to the whole "hustling" thing – people went to different towns. We’ve got Damus and Crips all around the nation and around the world. Who am I to say what some these are? I don’t know. Then again on a business level I’m not looking to do any of that stuff with them. I come from the real school of this gangster shit. I’m not going to go out and do any crimes with Lil Wayne or do any street shit with Jim Jones! We are doing some music shit through our bond of them repping what I’m repping. We are going to just leave it at that and do what we do on a business level. I’m not getting wrapped up in to who’s real and who’s not anymore! That’s the route that we fucked up on trying to get at Mack 10, then coming to find out that the dude is an alright nigga. That’s my nigga now and we are cooler than a motherfucker.
Get money man – that’s what’s fucking the West Coast up. Dudes are too worried about who’s real and this that and the other. I can really say that shit because I am who I say I am and the streets vouch for it. Outside of that, fuck all of that shit. I’m not here to vouch for anybody or put some stamps on anybody. It ain’t about that. We are just doing business with each other. People just mix things up and make things to be more than what it is. People ask if we are going to have Baby go out and put some work in – c’mon man these dudes are millionaires! Whoever and whatever they say they are in the streets – just because they’ve got millions of dollars means that they automatically aren’t what they say they are? I’m not getting wrapped up in all of that shit. Real niggas are real niggas and we talk amongst each other. We know what’s done in the streets and done off-camera and videotapes! Everything else is business. Its all about business. We call it Damu Money.
Styles: The album is coming May 19. Where are people going to be able to find this at? Will it be in stores or just available online?
Big Wy: It’s going to be in stores.
Styles: But I’m talking about the person in Oregon or Idaho or anywhere outside of major markets. Will they have store access too?
Big Wy: They can find it at their local stores or FYE. With the distribution that we’ve got it might take a while to get to "all" of the stores but it will be in retail outlets and the mom & pop stores. You can also get it online at iTunes, Amazon, and all that. By me selling records independently all of these years I’ve had contacts with distribution companies that are willing to work with me.
All of these dudes out here that are talking about doing this and doing that with all of these mixtapes and songs – but they aren’t putting any records out. It’s time for them to step their shit up.
This will probably be the last album that I put out that will be on some Blood shit. I’ve been doing those records my whole life. I am who I am and my fans know that. I don’t have to do it anymore. You all know what it is already.
Styles: So you feel at this point you have absolutely nothing to prove anymore?
Big Wy: Yeah. I represented for my hood but it’s time for me to do "me" as far as a musician is concerned and show different things for real. I’m still going to keep it gangsta because that’s me but I also have to do different things. I’ve got a 7 year old daughter.
Styles: When did you come to this conclusion?
Big Wy: It’s been like that for the last couple of years. I’ve been thinking about it. As you get older, you get wiser. You see things in a different light. I’m an O.G. now – at least that’s what they tell me [laughs]. I guess that’s what I am.
Styles: What’s next for you after the Soo-Whoop compilation?
Big Wy: I’ve got my album called "All or Nothing." That’s what the "Big Boy" single is off of. I’m doing a lot of production right now for Omar Ray and Polyrob.
Styles: Did you see any of the online feedback for the "Big Boy" song?
Big Wy: I got a lot of good feedback. I don’t know what everybody else heard but I didn’t see anything bad for the most part. People tell me that Game killed it, which he did. He just had to rap 16 bars with his rappin’ ass [laughs]. That’s my nigga though.
Styles: There was good feedback but I also saw a lot of negative comments about Game using auto-tune for his verses.
Big Wy: Yeah, I heard a little of that but at the time that’s what everybody was doing. Everybody has a right to their own opinion. Some people liked it and some people didn’t. At the end of the day though when you have a couple of drinks in your system and it comes on in the club it sounds good – and that’s all it’s about. I’m no longer rapping about who’s hard or who’s real. I’m making records to entertain. If the beat is good and the hook is good, then it’s entertaining – the rest of that shit doesn’t even matter.
Styles: Are we going to hear Big Wy using auto-tune?
Big Wy: Hell no. My voice doesn’t sound right with it.
Styles: Have you ever tried it just to mess around?
Big Wy: Man, I’m already auto-tuned with my voice. I sung with that auto-tune shit once [laughs]. I mean when it was big, it was hot. It came and went real fast though. People burned it out.
Styles: With this new direction will there be R & B stuff from you too?
Big Wy: Just production wise through Checkmate Entertainment. But we’ve always had people singing hooks on The Relativez albums. Speaking of that, a few days ago we made it official that me and Suga Buga are doing a 10 year Anniversary album since we started in 1999 with our first Relativez record. So we are working on the Anniversary album right now.
Styles: A collection of hits or a new album?
Big Wy: It’s called "The Anniversary" and it’s going to be a brand new album with all 18 new songs produced by the same producers who made Dirty Money and Money Respect Money.
Styles: Ok, so this album is going to be that real Relativez shit?
Big Wy: Yeah. I’m sitting at Buga’s house right now. We were just doing some of the planning and album photo shoots together. We are getting everything squared away.
Styles: It’s been a while since we’ve heard from your cousin Buga. How has he been?
Big Wy: Buga’s fine – he’s around here somewhere with his little ass dog – a Yorkshire terrier or whatever that shit is. He’s already started his work on the album – like 4 songs. I just need to do my verses.
Styles: What’s the projected date for the Anniversary Album?
Big Wy: We might just drop it on their ass on the fourth of July. That’s how you do it when your independent. We don’t’ sit around and wait. Money Boys is still official and me and Suga Buga are doing out thing – I just have a lot of stuff to juggle right now. This is what I do though and it’s’ nothing. I can do it with my eyes closed. And with Checkmate Entertainment we are showing our entrepreneurship and what we can do – so people won’t be so afraid of us. People are intimidated by what me and Wacko really are in the streets or what they think we are. Because of that some business people might not want to give us a chance. I’m glad though that we’ve got all of this stuff coming out on top of this Relativez record. Look for a big surge coming my way.
Styles: You are putting out the Soo-Whoop compilation album, but some have confused it for a Big Wy solo album. Just to clarify, this is not a Big Wy solo, right?
Big Wy: Right it's not but I have done a lot of production for it. This is a Checkmate Entertainment release. It’s just showcasing the main artists of what we call "The Soo-Whoop Movement" and introducing some new cats. With this album I wanted to show everybody my ear for music and to get together everybody that represents the Damu card. We do real music. It’s not just about gang-banging. People think that I just make gang-banging music. This is to set the record straight that we do other music.
Styles: First looking at the album and title some might think that this is like a Damu Riders Part 3 or something along that nature.
Big Wy: Right and that’s just because of the title. That’s cool because we are about representation but once they listen to it then they will get it. Mack 10, Jim Jones and the Game have all sold millions. It’s all about the music.
Styles: Are you still going to go with Damu Division as the first single? Whatever happened to that song "Big Boys" with you Mack, Jim and Game?
Big Wy: Damu Division with Glasses Malone is the first single even though G released that on his mixtape sometime back. Big Boys is for "my" album.
Styles: That’s for your solo album? I thought that was a Soo-Whoop Movement song.
Big Wy: Nah that’s for me. It started as a Soo-Woop album song in the beginning but I decided to separate that song from what we were doing on that album. We’re doing the Soo-Woop thing independently – Major labels probably think that we’re on some gang-bangin’ shit but it’s not that at all. Its bomb-ass music – everybody just happens to be Bloods. We are on right now. I’m doing this show that we all fuck with each other. Jim Jones and Mack 10 didn’t even know each other and now they have a single that’s out together with the both of them. That was my whole thing – I wanted to bring everybody together.
Styles: I imagine that you tried to take this album to different companies. Was there a lot of resistance?
Big Wy: Not really. We didn’t even try to shop it around. There isn’t a company out there that can say that we tried to bring this to them. We dealt with one as far as distribution was concerned but we always knew that we are doing this on our own. At first it was going to be like a mixtape type of project but I was like, "Fuck it. We might as well make it a real project." I went in on the producers end and started doing my thing and then I brought a few other cats in. Different relationships started being born amongst the Damu homies in the business and we made it what it is. Who else could have put together a record with June Dawg from the Figueroa Riders, Redrum and Messy Marv? The underground wouldn’t even know how to get that together? I’m the only one that could put together the first record between Young Hootie and Jay Rock. I got El Dorado Red with Shawty Lo on there.
Styles: Did you have any trouble at all or any type of resistance in bringing people together?
Big Wy: Naw because everybody on there, they know what it is. If you are what you say you are, then this is what you represent. Myself and Wacko, Checkmate Entertainment, our associates and people know who we are and what we are. This is what we are doing to represent who we are. Its no different than what the other side is doing. They all get together and do records together: The Dogg Pound, Snoop Dogg, Ice-T, WC, Tha Comrads, CJ Macc. All of these dudes are Crips. All I did was put a label on it because that’s how we address each other, Soo-Whoop. That term has gotten more known with the help of high profile artists and I’m going to show you what it really is from some of the real dudes that’s really with it and that have talent also.
Styles: A lot of fans have made statements in regards to high profile rappers who claim to be Bloods, questioning if they are real or not. Also if they are not real, then how can the real ones mess with them? What’s your whole take on that, you being a true O.G.?
Big Wy: I respect everybody’s opinions especially those that follow what we do, but at the same time a lot of the stuff that we on the streets have been doing and have grown up doing has been based on ignorance. Another thing that people have to understand is that a long time ago in the 80’s due to the whole "hustling" thing – people went to different towns. We’ve got Damus and Crips all around the nation and around the world. Who am I to say what some these are? I don’t know. Then again on a business level I’m not looking to do any of that stuff with them. I come from the real school of this gangster shit. I’m not going to go out and do any crimes with Lil Wayne or do any street shit with Jim Jones! We are doing some music shit through our bond of them repping what I’m repping. We are going to just leave it at that and do what we do on a business level. I’m not getting wrapped up in to who’s real and who’s not anymore! That’s the route that we fucked up on trying to get at Mack 10, then coming to find out that the dude is an alright nigga. That’s my nigga now and we are cooler than a motherfucker.
Get money man – that’s what’s fucking the West Coast up. Dudes are too worried about who’s real and this that and the other. I can really say that shit because I am who I say I am and the streets vouch for it. Outside of that, fuck all of that shit. I’m not here to vouch for anybody or put some stamps on anybody. It ain’t about that. We are just doing business with each other. People just mix things up and make things to be more than what it is. People ask if we are going to have Baby go out and put some work in – c’mon man these dudes are millionaires! Whoever and whatever they say they are in the streets – just because they’ve got millions of dollars means that they automatically aren’t what they say they are? I’m not getting wrapped up in all of that shit. Real niggas are real niggas and we talk amongst each other. We know what’s done in the streets and done off-camera and videotapes! Everything else is business. Its all about business. We call it Damu Money.
Styles: The album is coming May 19. Where are people going to be able to find this at? Will it be in stores or just available online?
Big Wy: It’s going to be in stores.
Styles: But I’m talking about the person in Oregon or Idaho or anywhere outside of major markets. Will they have store access too?
Big Wy: They can find it at their local stores or FYE. With the distribution that we’ve got it might take a while to get to "all" of the stores but it will be in retail outlets and the mom & pop stores. You can also get it online at iTunes, Amazon, and all that. By me selling records independently all of these years I’ve had contacts with distribution companies that are willing to work with me.
All of these dudes out here that are talking about doing this and doing that with all of these mixtapes and songs – but they aren’t putting any records out. It’s time for them to step their shit up.
This will probably be the last album that I put out that will be on some Blood shit. I’ve been doing those records my whole life. I am who I am and my fans know that. I don’t have to do it anymore. You all know what it is already.
Styles: So you feel at this point you have absolutely nothing to prove anymore?
Big Wy: Yeah. I represented for my hood but it’s time for me to do "me" as far as a musician is concerned and show different things for real. I’m still going to keep it gangsta because that’s me but I also have to do different things. I’ve got a 7 year old daughter.
Styles: When did you come to this conclusion?
Big Wy: It’s been like that for the last couple of years. I’ve been thinking about it. As you get older, you get wiser. You see things in a different light. I’m an O.G. now – at least that’s what they tell me [laughs]. I guess that’s what I am.
Styles: What’s next for you after the Soo-Whoop compilation?
Big Wy: I’ve got my album called "All or Nothing." That’s what the "Big Boy" single is off of. I’m doing a lot of production right now for Omar Ray and Polyrob.
Styles: Did you see any of the online feedback for the "Big Boy" song?
Big Wy: I got a lot of good feedback. I don’t know what everybody else heard but I didn’t see anything bad for the most part. People tell me that Game killed it, which he did. He just had to rap 16 bars with his rappin’ ass [laughs]. That’s my nigga though.
Styles: There was good feedback but I also saw a lot of negative comments about Game using auto-tune for his verses.
Big Wy: Yeah, I heard a little of that but at the time that’s what everybody was doing. Everybody has a right to their own opinion. Some people liked it and some people didn’t. At the end of the day though when you have a couple of drinks in your system and it comes on in the club it sounds good – and that’s all it’s about. I’m no longer rapping about who’s hard or who’s real. I’m making records to entertain. If the beat is good and the hook is good, then it’s entertaining – the rest of that shit doesn’t even matter.
Styles: Are we going to hear Big Wy using auto-tune?
Big Wy: Hell no. My voice doesn’t sound right with it.
Styles: Have you ever tried it just to mess around?
Big Wy: Man, I’m already auto-tuned with my voice. I sung with that auto-tune shit once [laughs]. I mean when it was big, it was hot. It came and went real fast though. People burned it out.
Styles: With this new direction will there be R & B stuff from you too?
Big Wy: Just production wise through Checkmate Entertainment. But we’ve always had people singing hooks on The Relativez albums. Speaking of that, a few days ago we made it official that me and Suga Buga are doing a 10 year Anniversary album since we started in 1999 with our first Relativez record. So we are working on the Anniversary album right now.
Styles: A collection of hits or a new album?
Big Wy: It’s called "The Anniversary" and it’s going to be a brand new album with all 18 new songs produced by the same producers who made Dirty Money and Money Respect Money.
Styles: Ok, so this album is going to be that real Relativez shit?
Big Wy: Yeah. I’m sitting at Buga’s house right now. We were just doing some of the planning and album photo shoots together. We are getting everything squared away.
Styles: It’s been a while since we’ve heard from your cousin Buga. How has he been?
Big Wy: Buga’s fine – he’s around here somewhere with his little ass dog – a Yorkshire terrier or whatever that shit is. He’s already started his work on the album – like 4 songs. I just need to do my verses.
Styles: What’s the projected date for the Anniversary Album?
Big Wy: We might just drop it on their ass on the fourth of July. That’s how you do it when your independent. We don’t’ sit around and wait. Money Boys is still official and me and Suga Buga are doing out thing – I just have a lot of stuff to juggle right now. This is what I do though and it’s’ nothing. I can do it with my eyes closed. And with Checkmate Entertainment we are showing our entrepreneurship and what we can do – so people won’t be so afraid of us. People are intimidated by what me and Wacko really are in the streets or what they think we are. Because of that some business people might not want to give us a chance. I’m glad though that we’ve got all of this stuff coming out on top of this Relativez record. Look for a big surge coming my way.
they used tha same producer from dirty money on tha "money respect money" album? i don't see tha correlation, they sounded different, is he talkin about VMF??
they need that dirty money production bac, that album is an all time CLASSIC, and i dont give out that label easily..... after that these niggaz fell tha fuc off, every album they make gets wacer and wacer.......all that Break Bread Mafia shit wuz tha SHIT!!!
they need that dirty money production bac, that album is an all time CLASSIC, and i dont give out that label easily..... after that these niggaz fell tha fuc off, every album they make gets wacer and wacer.......all that Break Bread Mafia shit wuz tha SHIT!!!