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Apr 25, 2002
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So let me get this straight:

If we send AIDS money, or troops to Rwanda or do anything else for Africa, its a political ploy......And If we DON'T send AIDS money, or troops to Rwanda or do anything else for Africa, its because its "bad for Bu$h Co"?

"DOUBLE JEOPARDY", ANYONE?
 
Mar 18, 2003
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tadou said:
So let me get this straight:

If we send AIDS money, or troops to Rwanda or do anything else for Africa, its a political ploy......And If we DON'T send AIDS money, or troops to Rwanda or do anything else for Africa, its because its "bad for Bu$h Co"?

"DOUBLE JEOPARDY", ANYONE?
EXAAAAAAACTLY!!!!!!!!!!
 
Nov 10, 2002
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Let's start with an undeniable fact: The United States of America has set more people free than any other country in the history of mankind.
Hmm. Another undeniable fact – the United States of America has helped prop up much more dictatorships and brutal regimes than it has overthrowed and has subjected more people to poverty and misery than it has ”freed”. Funny isn’t it?

Come on now. It is extremely naive to believe that USA intervenes because of altruistic reasons, to bring ”freedom and democracy” to those suffering under ruthless dictatorships, when history has already shown otherwise. If in its best interests, USA supports brutal, oppressive regimes.

To act in a way which is ”ethically correct” i.e. freeing or helping people is not as such the principle of US foreign policy. If ”justice” happens to coincide with the international interests of USA (or is all the same), the US government has no difficulty referring to reasons of high morality. The US exercises selfish foreign policy, though that doesn’t mean that no good has been accomplished along the way.

L Mac-a-docious already summed it up.

So fuck all this sanctamonious BS patting ourselves on the back for being this great humanitarian country, we fuck over way more than we help.
Exactly.

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A few quick comments on some of the statements, more later.

§ The state of Israel and five and a half million Jews would be crushed by its enemies if not for American aid.
This is a gross misrepresentation of the current situation – In fact, I believe no quarter is presently capable of ”crushing Israel”. In reality, it can be argued that unconditional American aid and support to Israel is the one major factor deterring the so-called ”peace process”. American aid allows Israel to do practically whatever it wishes and continue with its genocidal policies.

§ America is sending $3 billion a year to Africa to combat the AIDS epidemic. By comparison Canada is sending $270 million, France a paltry $60 million.
Yes, and while we’re at it, let’s not forget about foreign aid in general. US foreign aid is way as low as 0.5% of GNP, which is fucking paltry compared to some other nations. In reality, USA and other industrialized countries simply prolong the structure of world trade that enriches the rich and impoverishes the poor.

I suggest everyone take a look at this site, a very comprehensive analysis of foreign aid by industrialized countries:

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp
 
Dec 25, 2003
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Is it a good thing that Bush is sending AIDS money? Yes. Is it out of an honest, heartfelt love and concern for African people? Fuck no. If Bush was a real humanitarian, he would be operating in a much different fashion. Bush sendings AIDS assistance to Africa is like Saddam sending money to religious free press organizations in Russia...it might be a good cause, but you seriously have to wonder about the motives.

What Bush would NOT do if he was such a "health pundit";

Given Koch industries a pardon for 97 criminal counts including spewing carcinogens into the air.

Try to repeal the clean air act, a movement currently in progress.

Passed his "healthcare reform" bill that forces old people off Medicaire and Medicaid and onto private HMOs.

Delayed rules that would reduce "acceptable" levels of arsenic in drinking water.

Revoked rules strengthening the power of the government to deny contracts to companies who violate federal laws, environmental laws, and workplace safety standards.

Reduced by 86 percent the Community Access Program, wchich coordinates care for people without health insurance among public hostpitals and clinics, with no alternative plan or proposal

Nullified a proposal to increase public access to information about the ramifications of chemical accidents

Pulled out of Kyoto

Rejected an international treaty accord from 1972 banning germ warfare

Overturned workplace ergonomic rules designed with worker safety in mind

Abandoned his campaign pledge to regulate carbon dioxide

Appointed a global warming skeptic and opponent of air pollution standards as Undersecretary of the Interior

Threatened to shut down the White House AIDS office (lmao...this was before his compassionate conservative Africa plan)

Proposed to ease permit access for refineries and nuclear and hydoelectric dams, including lowering environmental standards.

And this is the man who "cares with all his heart for the African AIDS crisis". Go play monopoly with yourself tadou....obviously this board is a bit too much for you.
 
Nov 10, 2002
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One could add [...] that while aid does not aid the recipient, it aids the donor. For the US here, its aid agency was an aspect of its foreign policy to enhance its interests, successfully.
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May 2, 2002
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attay said:
Hmm. Another undeniable fact – the United States of America has helped prop up much more dictatorships and brutal regimes than it has overthrowed and has subjected more people to poverty and misery than it has ”freed”. Funny isn’t it?

Come on now. It is extremely naive to believe that USA intervenes because of altruistic reasons, to bring ”freedom and democracy” to those suffering under ruthless dictatorships, when history has already shown otherwise. If in its best interests, USA supports brutal, oppressive regimes.
that's your opinion, not fact.


attay said:
To act in a way which is ”ethically correct” i.e. freeing or helping people is not as such the principle of US foreign policy. If ”justice” happens to coincide with the international interests of USA (or is all the same), the US government has no difficulty referring to reasons of high morality. The US exercises selfish foreign policy, though that doesn’t mean that no good has been accomplished along the way.
opinion. try again.





attay said:
Yes, and while we’re at it, let’s not forget about foreign aid in general. US foreign aid is way as low as 0.5% of GNP, which is fucking paltry compared to some other nations. In reality, USA and other industrialized countries simply prolong the structure of world trade that enriches the rich and impoverishes the poor.

I suggest everyone take a look at this site, a very comprehensive analysis of foreign aid by industrialized countries:

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp
wow, a .org site. thank you, no. I'd rather not accept the bias information of a .org site. and you did a good job dodging the issue at hand, the fact that the U.S. has freed more civilians than any other country. you can twist the facts around to your favor as much as you please. doesnt make it true.
 
May 2, 2002
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ROFL!!#@@!#@!


monkey see, monkey do.

any reason you bafoons find what I said (which is 100% true) funny. or are you two lovers just so on eachother nuts you laught at anything the other laughs at?

please prove me wrong.
 
May 2, 2002
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.gov is the only extension containing pure facts.

.org's can misconstrue, or flat out lie.

what I'm trying to say is they're bias. all .org sites have a slant to them. peta.org, norml.org, naacp.org. they're all bias. just like you say fox news is.

so tell me how you can sit here and grill someone for watching fox news because its "influeced by conservatives" then tell me a .org site is the way to go