I think we mostly all know where the other stands on these types of issues, and I respect y'all's opinions and assume that we can agree to disagree on most of the discussions about ones faith. I do have to say that if someone really understands the Bible and lives their lives according to the commands and tenets of what Jesus taught, they we be among the most upstanding people in society. But when people misinterpret things or twist them to meet their own agenda, it will always create problems from minor up to the most gee opus things we see in society.