for my native folk
- Thread starter The Duke of Earl
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Didnt know this thread would get so much attention, thas wsup. If yall ever feel like getn put up on some shit, hit me up.
Anyone really into the native beliefs/lifestyle? no bullshit aside?
my family comes from Huacasco, Xalisko, Mexiko. Borderline Zacatecas. I've tried to do my own research, which I feel my family & I are of Mexika descent (meh-shee-kah) which was one of the last "Aztek" civilizations before the "conquest"....
The Atl- Tlachinolli in the Eagles beak represents the duality of Fire and Water, the blue and the red.
It was never a serpent.
To place a serpent here would contradict our spirituality. Having our two sacred animals the Kuautli and the Koatl fight is crazy, the Green, White and Red flag shows the confusion our people live in to this day.
The only original Panketzalli is held in the Vatican which they refuse to give back to the people (Catholicism)
(Oka Crisis)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh_fs8n27EE
Kauahtemok (last leader of the Mexika) got his feet burned to death because he refused to tell the "conquistadores" where the gold was... took it to the grave like a G.
Ometeotl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoZ8UkLeKyA
Anyone really into the native beliefs/lifestyle? no bullshit aside?
my family comes from Huacasco, Xalisko, Mexiko. Borderline Zacatecas. I've tried to do my own research, which I feel my family & I are of Mexika descent (meh-shee-kah) which was one of the last "Aztek" civilizations before the "conquest"....
The Atl- Tlachinolli in the Eagles beak represents the duality of Fire and Water, the blue and the red.
It was never a serpent.
To place a serpent here would contradict our spirituality. Having our two sacred animals the Kuautli and the Koatl fight is crazy, the Green, White and Red flag shows the confusion our people live in to this day.
The only original Panketzalli is held in the Vatican which they refuse to give back to the people (Catholicism)
(Oka Crisis)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh_fs8n27EE
Kauahtemok (last leader of the Mexika) got his feet burned to death because he refused to tell the "conquistadores" where the gold was... took it to the grave like a G.
Ometeotl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoZ8UkLeKyA
Captain Jack, California Indian (N.24776) circa 1864
Warrior
Captain Jack, Modoc
Kintpuash
1837-1873
In 1864, the Modoc Indians were living on their ancestral tribal lands near Tule Lake, on what is now the Oregon-California border region. However, because white settlers wanted the rich Modoc lands for themselves, the US Government relocated the Modoc people to the Klamath Indian Reservation in southwest Oregon.
Unhappy with how Modocs were being treated on the Klamath Reservation, Captain Jack led his people back to their tribal lands in 1865.
In 1869, U.S. Army soldiers again rounded up the Modoc people and moved them back to the Klamath Reservation, but conditions there had not improved for the Modocs.
A year later, 1870, Capt. Jack again led his people back to their tribal lands at Tule Lake.
BATTLE OF LOST RIVER
In 1872, Army soldiers were again dispatched to Tule Lake to escort Captain Jack and his band back to Klamath Reservation.
However, during negotiations, a fight broke out between an Army soldier and a Modoc warrior and the Battle of Lost River ensued.
After the battle, Captain Jack led his band into what is now known as the Lava Beds National Monument — Captain Jack's Stronghold — a natural maze of caves and trenches worn into the lava bed.
The Modoc braves were very successful in defending this stronghold and the Army was losing dozens of soldiers during fights to evict the band from this natural Indian fort.
Captain Jack is said to have believed that if the white Army leaders were killed, the Army would be defeated and the government troops would leave the Modocs alone.
During a high-level meeting, Captain Jack and several other Modocs drew their pistols in unison and killed two leading members of the government commission, including General Edward Canby.
The killings resulted in the US Government sending in over 1,000 reinforcement troops, and the soldiers attacked Captain Jack's Stronghold with superior forces and successfully evicted the Modocs from their safe haven.
On October 3, 1873, Captain Jack was hanged for the murder of General Canby.
I know we grace over it, and make jokes but I always wanted to ask a native what do you feel/how do you feel when non-natives are like this is my land, or THe indians lost, or they have casinos they doing better than most Americans, etc. what yall really think about that shit? And do Native elders/parents keep a revolutionary fervor up in the kids, or is it just laid back like this is your history and this is what we had back in the day?
It personally sickens me when people talk about Mexicans not being able to come into the US, when the facts are that this is their land to begin with... Also, the fact that my tribe has lost a lot of their culture due to modernization in American... It seems everything is driven by the "all mighty dollar", and I don't think that's the way things are supposed to be in my eyes...
Captain Jack, California Indian (N.24776) circa 1864
Warrior
Captain Jack, Modoc
Kintpuash
1837-1873
In 1864, the Modoc Indians were living on their ancestral tribal lands near Tule Lake, on what is now the Oregon-California border region. However, because white settlers wanted the rich Modoc lands for themselves, the US Government relocated the Modoc people to the Klamath Indian Reservation in southwest Oregon.
Unhappy with how Modocs were being treated on the Klamath Reservation, Captain Jack led his people back to their tribal lands in 1865.
In 1869, U.S. Army soldiers again rounded up the Modoc people and moved them back to the Klamath Reservation, but conditions there had not improved for the Modocs.
A year later, 1870, Capt. Jack again led his people back to their tribal lands at Tule Lake.
BATTLE OF LOST RIVER
In 1872, Army soldiers were again dispatched to Tule Lake to escort Captain Jack and his band back to Klamath Reservation.
However, during negotiations, a fight broke out between an Army soldier and a Modoc warrior and the Battle of Lost River ensued.
After the battle, Captain Jack led his band into what is now known as the Lava Beds National Monument — Captain Jack's Stronghold — a natural maze of caves and trenches worn into the lava bed.
The Modoc braves were very successful in defending this stronghold and the Army was losing dozens of soldiers during fights to evict the band from this natural Indian fort.
Captain Jack is said to have believed that if the white Army leaders were killed, the Army would be defeated and the government troops would leave the Modocs alone.
During a high-level meeting, Captain Jack and several other Modocs drew their pistols in unison and killed two leading members of the government commission, including General Edward Canby.
The killings resulted in the US Government sending in over 1,000 reinforcement troops, and the soldiers attacked Captain Jack's Stronghold with superior forces and successfully evicted the Modocs from their safe haven.
On October 3, 1873, Captain Jack was hanged for the murder of General Canby.
