@FOE TWIN,NEFAR,TENK AND EDJ. PEEP THIS.
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Good read Heresy
The blood, sweat, and tears the Africans put on this soil is enough to say that African Americans are Americans. However to be an American is way more than ancesteral connection, you have to...
a) Feel like an American
b) Be proud of this country
From what I've observed it seems like African Americans aren't as patriotic as other groups in this country. However can you blame them? No!! This country has never treated them like Americans even up till now...so why should they salute this flag?
I was talking to one of my friends and he told me that West Africa or Africa period should be the home of African Americans, he said Africa is begging to be rebuilt by African Americans however there are few minor setbacks and thats African Americans look down on Africans and vice versa.
The blood, sweat, and tears the Africans put on this soil is enough to say that African Americans are Americans. However to be an American is way more than ancesteral connection, you have to...
a) Feel like an American
b) Be proud of this country
From what I've observed it seems like African Americans aren't as patriotic as other groups in this country. However can you blame them? No!! This country has never treated them like Americans even up till now...so why should they salute this flag?
I was talking to one of my friends and he told me that West Africa or Africa period should be the home of African Americans, he said Africa is begging to be rebuilt by African Americans however there are few minor setbacks and thats African Americans look down on Africans and vice versa.
i have NEVER felt a connection with america.nor am i proud of this country......proud of what?
death,lies,hunger,manipulation,racism,drugs and sickness? i can go on and on.....
whats right about america? the fact that you can say what you want to say? you cant say what you want to say. thats a falsehood. the fact that you can do what you want? you cant do what you want...your restricted.........if your black (especially a black male) you are restricted.
until the black man starts......naw im not gonna even say that.....
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death,lies,hunger,manipulation,racism,drugs and sickness? i can go on and on.....
whats right about america? the fact that you can say what you want to say? you cant say what you want to say. thats a falsehood. the fact that you can do what you want? you cant do what you want...your restricted.........if your black (especially a black male) you are restricted.
until the black man starts......naw im not gonna even say that.....
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"Sitting at the table doesn’t make you a diner. You must be eating some of what’s on that plate. Being here in America doesn’t make you an American. Being born here in America doesn’t make you an American." - malcolm x
That says it all right there. Thats also why I refuse to be labled "African American". I'm niether I'm black. We were brought to this country to work and build things that white people could never build, I'm proud of that. But at the same time in recent years it seems as if we aint done shit as a people. This country hates us and always will what we have to do is take every opportunity offered to us as INDIVIDUALS and run with it make something of ourselves and then GIVE BACK to the COMMUNITY in every way possible.
ps I went to this minority medical school recruitment seminar last week and damn guess who was the minority? BLACK MALES thats who. Willie Lynch is alive and well.
That says it all right there. Thats also why I refuse to be labled "African American". I'm niether I'm black. We were brought to this country to work and build things that white people could never build, I'm proud of that. But at the same time in recent years it seems as if we aint done shit as a people. This country hates us and always will what we have to do is take every opportunity offered to us as INDIVIDUALS and run with it make something of ourselves and then GIVE BACK to the COMMUNITY in every way possible.
ps I went to this minority medical school recruitment seminar last week and damn guess who was the minority? BLACK MALES thats who. Willie Lynch is alive and well.
damn right. people call me a RACIST when i say that. we havent done shit as a people. what have we done??????? besides building this country and receiving nothing in return what have we done?
damn right. instead of invetsing 100k in gold teeth. do you have any info on this? i would like to pass this info on to my peeps (my sister and nephew in particular). DAMN RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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damn right. instead of invetsing 100k in gold teeth. do you have any info on this? i would like to pass this info on to my peeps (my sister and nephew in particular). DAMN RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It was the SUMMA conference at Stanford University they impressed the hell out of me. I always thaught Stanford was a Rich White folk school but they had a rack of non-white people there that had been thru mad struggles like me it got me motivated something terrible.:devious: Lots of good info on schoolarships and summer programs. If you want more info go to mopp.org they got a lot of great links to help out a young brother or sister who is interested in med school.
^^^^^^^good looking out. we need more blacks in positions like this. a lot of blacks ARENT getting adequate health care (for whatever reason). we dont need trillions of blacks in the entertainment industry. we need more people in the medical (and veternarians), law (and law enforcement) and financial fields (which would include banking and cpa's).
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ps thanx 4 the link once again.
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ps thanx 4 the link once again.
Your right about needing more blacks in the medical field, the racism that goes on in the medical field is very hidden.....
Blacks with the same health care as whites are less likely to get proper health care. Blacks with diabetes are more likely to get an amputation than whites.
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/nation/2904511.htm
Posted on Thu, Mar. 21, 2002
Racial disparity in health care draws strong words from panel
By Tony Pugh
Inquirer Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON - Racial and ethnic minorities generally receive lower-quality health care and less intensive diagnostic services than white patients, even when their income, insurance and medical conditions are similar, the government reported yesterday.
The Institute of Medicine committee that issued the report said the practices it found were unacceptable because they contribute to higher minority death rates from cancer, heart disease and HIV.
"We were amazed - some of us surprised and shocked - at the evidence of disparities," said Alan Nelson, a former president of the American Medical Association and an adviser to the American College of Physicians-American Society of Internal Medicine, who chaired the panel.
"The real challenge lies not in debating whether disparities exist, because the evidence is overwhelming, but in implementing strategies to reduce and eliminate them," Nelson said.
The 15-member panel of the Institute of Medicine found that minorities were less likely than whites to get proper heart medication, heart bypass surgery, kidney dialysis, and transplants. The gap is greatest between African Americans and whites.
The 562-page document - the third study this month to examine unequal treatment of minority patients - is one of the harshest and most thorough examinations of an issue that has been widely discussed but not deeply explored.
Among the findings:
A study of 11,000 lung-cancer patients found 76 percent of whites vs. 64 percent of blacks underwent surgery for the disease. After five years, whites had a 34 percent survival rate compared with 26 percent for blacks.
A report on 13,000 heart patients found 100 whites had surgery to clear congested arteries - for every 74 blacks who had the same surgery.
A study of nearly 16,000 urban emergency-room visitors found blacks were 50 percent more likely than whites to be denied coverage by their health plans.
"It's hard to ignore the evidence," said Adolph Falcon, vice president for science and policy for the National Alliance for Hispanic Health, a Washington-based network of Hispanic health professionals. "Any reasonable reading of it will show there's a significant need for services that address the unique needs of different communities."
The panel found that although socioeconomic factors such as poverty, lack of insurance, and language barriers contributed to the disparity, they did not fully account for differences in care. While there is no evidence that physician bias plays a role, the study noted that "health-care providers' diagnostic and treatment decisions, as well their feelings about patients, are influenced by race and ethnicity."
"Health-care providers like other members of society, may not recognize manifestations of prejudice in their own behavior," the study states.
The report recommends more research into medical-provider bias, better data collection on minority patient care, more cross-cultural training for health-care personnel, and wider use of language translators. It also calls for more minority doctors and more money for medical civil rights investigations by the Department of Health and Human Services.
M. Gregg Bloche, who was on the panel and is a professor at Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health in Baltimore, blamed part of the differences on stereotypes. He said he was taught in medical school that Hispanic patients overstated their pain and that physicians should downplay their comments when prescribing treatment.
"There's a whole lot of other stereotypes like that," Bloche said. "A lot more of it gets taught covertly by modeling: When you see senior attendees or senior residents react to minority patients and there is a subtle, veiled contempt, you may incorporate those ways of acting and thinking in ways that are not even conscious."
A recent study in Los Angeles emergency rooms found doctors prescribed fewer pain-relieving medications to Mexican Americans suffering from trauma.
"Same fractures but less pain relief for the Mexican American. Here's where the science stops and the stereotyping starts," said Thomas Inui, a report committee member and president of the Fetzer Institute in Kalamazoo, Mich., a nonprofit health research group.
Bloche said he worried that a prolonged debate about possible racism in medicine "can distract us from getting white people to focus on these underlying notions."
Two other studies on related issues came out just weeks ago:
Harvard University researchers found that black Medicare patients in private managed-care plans were less likely than whites to get recommended clinical care in four areas: breast exams, diabetic eye exams, preventative medication after heart attacks, and follow-up care after hospitalization for mental illness.
A national survey by the Commonwealth Fund, a private research foundation, found that minorities had more communication problems with doctors and tended to feel, more so than whites, that those physicians treated them with disrespect.
Yesterday's report was mandated by Congress in the Minority Health Disparities Act of 2000.
Blacks with the same health care as whites are less likely to get proper health care. Blacks with diabetes are more likely to get an amputation than whites.
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/nation/2904511.htm
Posted on Thu, Mar. 21, 2002
Racial disparity in health care draws strong words from panel
By Tony Pugh
Inquirer Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON - Racial and ethnic minorities generally receive lower-quality health care and less intensive diagnostic services than white patients, even when their income, insurance and medical conditions are similar, the government reported yesterday.
The Institute of Medicine committee that issued the report said the practices it found were unacceptable because they contribute to higher minority death rates from cancer, heart disease and HIV.
"We were amazed - some of us surprised and shocked - at the evidence of disparities," said Alan Nelson, a former president of the American Medical Association and an adviser to the American College of Physicians-American Society of Internal Medicine, who chaired the panel.
"The real challenge lies not in debating whether disparities exist, because the evidence is overwhelming, but in implementing strategies to reduce and eliminate them," Nelson said.
The 15-member panel of the Institute of Medicine found that minorities were less likely than whites to get proper heart medication, heart bypass surgery, kidney dialysis, and transplants. The gap is greatest between African Americans and whites.
The 562-page document - the third study this month to examine unequal treatment of minority patients - is one of the harshest and most thorough examinations of an issue that has been widely discussed but not deeply explored.
Among the findings:
A study of 11,000 lung-cancer patients found 76 percent of whites vs. 64 percent of blacks underwent surgery for the disease. After five years, whites had a 34 percent survival rate compared with 26 percent for blacks.
A report on 13,000 heart patients found 100 whites had surgery to clear congested arteries - for every 74 blacks who had the same surgery.
A study of nearly 16,000 urban emergency-room visitors found blacks were 50 percent more likely than whites to be denied coverage by their health plans.
"It's hard to ignore the evidence," said Adolph Falcon, vice president for science and policy for the National Alliance for Hispanic Health, a Washington-based network of Hispanic health professionals. "Any reasonable reading of it will show there's a significant need for services that address the unique needs of different communities."
The panel found that although socioeconomic factors such as poverty, lack of insurance, and language barriers contributed to the disparity, they did not fully account for differences in care. While there is no evidence that physician bias plays a role, the study noted that "health-care providers' diagnostic and treatment decisions, as well their feelings about patients, are influenced by race and ethnicity."
"Health-care providers like other members of society, may not recognize manifestations of prejudice in their own behavior," the study states.
The report recommends more research into medical-provider bias, better data collection on minority patient care, more cross-cultural training for health-care personnel, and wider use of language translators. It also calls for more minority doctors and more money for medical civil rights investigations by the Department of Health and Human Services.
M. Gregg Bloche, who was on the panel and is a professor at Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health in Baltimore, blamed part of the differences on stereotypes. He said he was taught in medical school that Hispanic patients overstated their pain and that physicians should downplay their comments when prescribing treatment.
"There's a whole lot of other stereotypes like that," Bloche said. "A lot more of it gets taught covertly by modeling: When you see senior attendees or senior residents react to minority patients and there is a subtle, veiled contempt, you may incorporate those ways of acting and thinking in ways that are not even conscious."
A recent study in Los Angeles emergency rooms found doctors prescribed fewer pain-relieving medications to Mexican Americans suffering from trauma.
"Same fractures but less pain relief for the Mexican American. Here's where the science stops and the stereotyping starts," said Thomas Inui, a report committee member and president of the Fetzer Institute in Kalamazoo, Mich., a nonprofit health research group.
Bloche said he worried that a prolonged debate about possible racism in medicine "can distract us from getting white people to focus on these underlying notions."
Two other studies on related issues came out just weeks ago:
Harvard University researchers found that black Medicare patients in private managed-care plans were less likely than whites to get recommended clinical care in four areas: breast exams, diabetic eye exams, preventative medication after heart attacks, and follow-up care after hospitalization for mental illness.
A national survey by the Commonwealth Fund, a private research foundation, found that minorities had more communication problems with doctors and tended to feel, more so than whites, that those physicians treated them with disrespect.
Yesterday's report was mandated by Congress in the Minority Health Disparities Act of 2000.
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why? cant make any political difference in america without political affiliation. cant go to college and recieve govt finiancial aid without registering. and cant enjoy the employment that you want for the money you want without college
although im not a patriot the game succs us into it one way or another.
you either have to walk against the current in the water or, go with the flow. either way youre gonna get wet
marinara
why? cant make any political difference in america without political affiliation. cant go to college and recieve govt finiancial aid without registering. and cant enjoy the employment that you want for the money you want without college
although im not a patriot the game succs us into it one way or another.
you either have to walk against the current in the water or, go with the flow. either way youre gonna get wet
marinara
The system itself is crooked. Note what I said, they all work for the same boss. Ive been beat down and had my life threatened by black cops numerous times so I dont see how they are helping anyone but themselves. It goes back to the slave days and the black overseers, they dont want freedom they want to be a part of the slavemasters family(which will never happen).