Floyd Mayweather vs Sugar Shane Mosley [May 1st]
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Comprehension, Tony...
Tony was caught red-handed. He hadn't used it in that fight because he got caught. But there's no evidence he used plaster or anything else AT ANY OTHER TIME.
And excess testing SHOULD be done on Shane. He's a proven cheater. IF Manny ever is actually caught cheating, instead of people like you using Floyd Sr.'s words like they're the gospel, he'll be a cheater, too. But he HAS NOT FAILED ANYTHING, Tony. Speculation, TONY.
Tony was caught red-handed. He hadn't used it in that fight because he got caught. But there's no evidence he used plaster or anything else AT ANY OTHER TIME.
And excess testing SHOULD be done on Shane. He's a proven cheater. IF Manny ever is actually caught cheating, instead of people like you using Floyd Sr.'s words like they're the gospel, he'll be a cheater, too. But he HAS NOT FAILED ANYTHING, Tony. Speculation, TONY.
I'm forced to chop this shit down tony, i'm sorry.
That's kind of a misconception in boxing - whoever wins the most rounds wins the fight period. There isn't "he needs to do more to take the belt" stuff. See Bernard Hopkins vs Jermain Taylor as an example.
Freddie is always doing most of the talking. That's freddie roach. Look back at all of pacquiao's fights, he really doesn't say shit, meanwhile freddie roach is like, "pacquiao is going to knock ricky out in 3 rounds" "oscar cant pull the trigger" etc etc etc. Pacquiao never talks shit about his opponents (probably why freddie does to hype the fight more).
Uh, yes he did. Numerous times. Here is a video of him calling him out:
LMAO, tony, the EXACT SAME STATEMENT can be made for floyd. If floyd wanted the fight so bad, he would have just agreed to the 24 day cut off. It goes both ways.
It didn't happen so quick, the negotiations went on for weeks before it was finally called dead.
Further, some people speculate that floyd and co didn't really want the fight, when they stood up Jerry Jones to view the dallas venue. Bob Arum and Richard Schaeffer were scheduled to meet with Jones, cuz jones was willing to put up $25 million for the fight. Bob arum shows up, but Richard never did, stating it's a waste of time. At that point, the negotiations started to go sour, then the drug tests demands came out and everything fell apart.
They don't need his help to sell the fight. Bob Arum and pacquiao very much wanted to fight at the cowboys stadium but mayweather for whatever reasons didn't (probably because he wouldn't be able to inject his hands in Texas), so when the fight fell apart, Jones still wanted the fight on March 13th, so they took it.
Yeah, no freakin shit, that's two superstars. If it were pacquiao vs mosley and mayweather vs clottey, who do you think would have more PPV buys? lol, it's a no brainer. Unfortunately for pac, at the time shane mosley was still locked up with berto so clottey was the next best option.
More like because of the persona he made for himself. Calzaghe was undefeated, Sven Ottke was undefeated. These guys weren't superstars. Oscar de la hoya, mike tyson, ali, sugar ray leonard, marvin hagler, these guys all had losses and were the biggest draws in their times.
That's kind of a misconception in boxing - whoever wins the most rounds wins the fight period. There isn't "he needs to do more to take the belt" stuff. See Bernard Hopkins vs Jermain Taylor as an example.
Freddie is always doing most of the talking. That's freddie roach. Look back at all of pacquiao's fights, he really doesn't say shit, meanwhile freddie roach is like, "pacquiao is going to knock ricky out in 3 rounds" "oscar cant pull the trigger" etc etc etc. Pacquiao never talks shit about his opponents (probably why freddie does to hype the fight more).
Uh, yes he did. Numerous times. Here is a video of him calling him out:
LMAO, tony, the EXACT SAME STATEMENT can be made for floyd. If floyd wanted the fight so bad, he would have just agreed to the 24 day cut off. It goes both ways.
It didn't happen so quick, the negotiations went on for weeks before it was finally called dead.
Further, some people speculate that floyd and co didn't really want the fight, when they stood up Jerry Jones to view the dallas venue. Bob Arum and Richard Schaeffer were scheduled to meet with Jones, cuz jones was willing to put up $25 million for the fight. Bob arum shows up, but Richard never did, stating it's a waste of time. At that point, the negotiations started to go sour, then the drug tests demands came out and everything fell apart.
They don't need his help to sell the fight. Bob Arum and pacquiao very much wanted to fight at the cowboys stadium but mayweather for whatever reasons didn't (probably because he wouldn't be able to inject his hands in Texas), so when the fight fell apart, Jones still wanted the fight on March 13th, so they took it.
Yeah, no freakin shit, that's two superstars. If it were pacquiao vs mosley and mayweather vs clottey, who do you think would have more PPV buys? lol, it's a no brainer. Unfortunately for pac, at the time shane mosley was still locked up with berto so clottey was the next best option.
More like because of the persona he made for himself. Calzaghe was undefeated, Sven Ottke was undefeated. These guys weren't superstars. Oscar de la hoya, mike tyson, ali, sugar ray leonard, marvin hagler, these guys all had losses and were the biggest draws in their times.
mosley agreed cuz he had to. He's been begging for a big fight and he finally got it and he'll do whatever it takes for it to happen.
Back when Mosley was on top he wasn't trying to give floyd the time of day. He had bigger fish to fry and more money to make. Well, now that the tables are turned and mosley can't land a big fight for the life of him, he'll crawl on his knees to floyd if he has too.
And my point holds water. When Mosley and Zab Judah were going to fight, Judah requested that Mosley has additional drug tests done and shane flat out declined it, said fuck you, and fought someone else. Boom! 2-0-Sixx with the Fatality victory!
Back when Mosley was on top he wasn't trying to give floyd the time of day. He had bigger fish to fry and more money to make. Well, now that the tables are turned and mosley can't land a big fight for the life of him, he'll crawl on his knees to floyd if he has too.
And my point holds water. When Mosley and Zab Judah were going to fight, Judah requested that Mosley has additional drug tests done and shane flat out declined it, said fuck you, and fought someone else. Boom! 2-0-Sixx with the Fatality victory!
You can chop it down all you want and you don't have to be sorry. I stand by what I say period.
Floyd would have knocked Manny out now that I think about it. Arum didn't want the fight and found a way out because if Manny lost to Floyd there goes his #1 pound for pound fighter/ranking.
Mayweather is the biggest draw now period wether that has to do with his persona and/or his undefeated record and pound for pound ranking.
Floyd would have knocked Manny out now that I think about it. Arum didn't want the fight and found a way out because if Manny lost to Floyd there goes his #1 pound for pound fighter/ranking.
Mayweather is the biggest draw now period wether that has to do with his persona and/or his undefeated record and pound for pound ranking.
Your points were already addressed in my previous posts.
Shane agreed to the testing because this is a fight he wants period, I don't want to hear that BS about he had to. Of course he had to if he wants to step in with best fighter in the world pound 4 pound. He agreed period and that point was directed at RedDum, so I even know why you intervened. It looks like you wasted your own time!
Shane agreed to the testing because this is a fight he wants period, I don't want to hear that BS about he had to. Of course he had to if he wants to step in with best fighter in the world pound 4 pound. He agreed period and that point was directed at RedDum, so I even know why you intervened. It looks like you wasted your own time!
Exactly... Pacman punked out. By taking the fight he could have proven two things:
Who the best fighter pound for pound in the world is!
And he could have proven that he's a clean fighter!
But since he didn't, there goes that fight, and the cloud of suspicion continues.
He had a chance to silence all doubt but he took the other route. So I wish he would shut up and quick taking all these punk verbal jabs at Mayweather. He could have stepped in the ring and handled business but he doesn't call his own shots like a boss. Now he wants to sit back and talk about money May. Step in the ring or keep quiet and quit sellin' wolf tickets.
Who the best fighter pound for pound in the world is!
And he could have proven that he's a clean fighter!
But since he didn't, there goes that fight, and the cloud of suspicion continues.
He had a chance to silence all doubt but he took the other route. So I wish he would shut up and quick taking all these punk verbal jabs at Mayweather. He could have stepped in the ring and handled business but he doesn't call his own shots like a boss. Now he wants to sit back and talk about money May. Step in the ring or keep quiet and quit sellin' wolf tickets.
Like I said it goes both ways tony. How do you fail to understand that? Mayweather could have ended all the doubt that he ducks the best fighters and accepted the 24 day cut off and fought Pac, but he didn't.
Listen, there was NEVER any doubt about pacquiao and roids until mayweather and his dad made the remarks. No one suspected anything. You're making it out to be like there was this cloud hovering over pacquiao with his success, but that's not the case. Floyd created that himself while pacquiao is off in the Philippines being the superstar that he is over there. People fail to understand how big pacquiao is over there. Do you think he really cares what mayweather and a few people on the internet say? In pac's perspective, HE IS the star, not mayweather. He doesn't need floyd, he makes millions and millions of dollars just being pacquiao.
Listen, there was NEVER any doubt about pacquiao and roids until mayweather and his dad made the remarks. No one suspected anything. You're making it out to be like there was this cloud hovering over pacquiao with his success, but that's not the case. Floyd created that himself while pacquiao is off in the Philippines being the superstar that he is over there. People fail to understand how big pacquiao is over there. Do you think he really cares what mayweather and a few people on the internet say? In pac's perspective, HE IS the star, not mayweather. He doesn't need floyd, he makes millions and millions of dollars just being pacquiao.
206 man what kind of video did you post? I couldn't understand half the stuff they were saying and what I did understand was that Pacman was saying the same stuff roach and the Mayweather critics were saying "Mayweather doesn't like to get hit" and all that BS.
Someone needs to tell Pacman to shut up or step up and fight and quit selling wolf tickets!
Someone needs to tell Pacman to shut up or step up and fight and quit selling wolf tickets!
I understand that and I don't disagree with any of the points you made there.
But being a man and sucking it up is what Pacman should have done. Why would Mayweather come down from 30 days to 24? WTF? He cut the 30 days in half and Pacman should have taken the offer but he didn't because he's not his own boss. Pacman was making all kind of excuses talking about he doesn't like needles but then team Mayweather called him out and said well what about the tatts? He's tatted up like he's been in the pen. But he's afraid of needles?
But being a man and sucking it up is what Mayweather should have done.
Actually the first compromise by team pacquiao was even agreeing to additional blood tests. That's compromise #1. Floyd no likey. Pac says, ok 24 days.
The reason this number is significant is because it was 24 days prior to the ricky hatton fight that pacquiao gave blood. He said he took off a couple days of sparring and it went ok from there. Pac being the person he is, said he would agree to 24 days since that's what he did before.
Pacquiao NEVER said he was afraid of needles. That was a misinterpretation made by bob arum or michael koncz. Pacquiao has always made it clear that his problem was giving blood too soon to a fight because it makes him feel week and that he doesn't want to have to mess up his training to give up blood leading up to the fight (again, hence the 24 days).
This has been documented. Go back to the eric morales loss. He blamed it on the blood. He also made a huge fuss about having an eye test and tried to get it waived because he said it was too invasive and would mess up his training. A freakin eye test! Again, well documented stuff.
Mayweather has been negative with his tactics from the very start and that played team pac the wrong way (especially considering floyd and bob arum hate eachother with a passion). Things just spiraled downhill from there. It is ridiculous. Further, Floyd's dad is now saying pacquiao is on "A-Side Meth" apparently something he invented. He believes Filipino's are bullet proof when on this drug and that during previous wars, soldiers would shoot them and the bullets would bounce off. This is the man responsible for these accusations! It's crazy. Crackheads literally started these rumors.
Actually the first compromise by team pacquiao was even agreeing to additional blood tests. That's compromise #1. Floyd no likey. Pac says, ok 24 days.
The reason this number is significant is because it was 24 days prior to the ricky hatton fight that pacquiao gave blood. He said he took off a couple days of sparring and it went ok from there. Pac being the person he is, said he would agree to 24 days since that's what he did before.
Pacquiao NEVER said he was afraid of needles. That was a misinterpretation made by bob arum or michael koncz. Pacquiao has always made it clear that his problem was giving blood too soon to a fight because it makes him feel week and that he doesn't want to have to mess up his training to give up blood leading up to the fight (again, hence the 24 days).
This has been documented. Go back to the eric morales loss. He blamed it on the blood. He also made a huge fuss about having an eye test and tried to get it waived because he said it was too invasive and would mess up his training. A freakin eye test! Again, well documented stuff.
Mayweather has been negative with his tactics from the very start and that played team pac the wrong way (especially considering floyd and bob arum hate eachother with a passion). Things just spiraled downhill from there. It is ridiculous. Further, Floyd's dad is now saying pacquiao is on "A-Side Meth" apparently something he invented. He believes Filipino's are bullet proof when on this drug and that during previous wars, soldiers would shoot them and the bullets would bounce off. This is the man responsible for these accusations! It's crazy. Crackheads literally started these rumors.