Floyd Mayweather vs Sugar Shane Mosley [May 1st]
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Your post contradicts itself.
You don't think its fair that Pacquiao should get his way, yet you proclaim that if Pacquiao wanted the fight he would agree to have it Floyd's way. As you put it.
The fact of the matter is that the fight isn't happening now, and both sides are to blame for whatever reasons they have for not making the fight.
Its like that old what came first the chicken or the egg shit.
Mayweather says Mosley is insecure
LOS ANGELES -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. has known he was inside Sugar Shane Mosley's head from the moment Mayweather's last fight ended.
That's when Mosley jumped into the ring last September to challenge Mayweather, who had just demolished Juan Manuel Marquez in his comeback bout from a 19-month layoff. After Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao couldn't make a deal, Mayweather accepted a deal to fight Mosley, already confident he had a mental edge.
"Shane is out of character in this whole thing," Mayweather said. "He doesn't talk trash. That's not like him to call out somebody. I think Bernard Hopkins [Mosley's business partner] put a battery in his back and pumped him up to say those things."
With a whole lot more civility, Mayweather and Mosley wrapped up a publicity tour in downtown Los Angeles on Thursday before several hundred fans mostly cheering for Mosley, a native of nearby Pomona. Mayweather, a Michigan native, has long called Las Vegas home.
This stop had a definite West Coast flavor: The crowd stood in a packed grandstand in picture-perfect sunshine while a deejay bumped Tupac, Snoop and Dr. Dre over the loudspeakers at a downtown plaza. Both fighters emerged from behind curtains and smoke for a brief jaw-to-jaw trash-talking session, followed by civilized speeches to the crowd.
"This fight is going to be on May 1st, but it's also going to be May's first [loss]," said a grinning Mosley, who showed up in a tailored green suit while Mayweather wore a quilted brown jacket and jeans.
Except for the fainting Tecate Girl, everything about the event suggested a smooth, professional fight when Mayweather and Mosley meet at the MGM Grand Garden.
A scantily-dressed woman representing the fight's sponsoring beer company swooned in the mild sun, falling down in front of the podium and prompting promoter Oscar De La Hoya to call for help before she recovered and walked away.
Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer is setting a formidable standard for the fight, proclaiming HBO can sell 3 million pay-per-view buys to make it the biggest fight in boxing history. Mayweather has sold about 4.5 million buys for his last three fights against De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Marquez, making him the sport's top pay-per-view draw.
Schaefer also is putting the fight in movie theaters and making a litany of sponsorship tie-ins for the bout, further promoting boxing to the interest of mainstream advertisers. But none of it will work without a solid fight, and Mosley trainer Naazim Richardson believes this bout will catch every fan's interest.
"Shane Mosley can knock out anything that weighs 147 pounds," said the affable Richardson, Hopkins' longtime trainer. "If a farm animal weighed that, Shane could knock him out. We're going to have to convince this man that he has to learn how to lose. He can forget it after us, but he's going to have to learn."
The fighters' comments were remarkably civilized after the contentious start to the tour in New York, where they shoved each other and had fewer positive things to say about each other. Mayweather practically fawned over Mosley and the fight's organizers in his comments, praising everybody on the stage.
"We didn't put him down because he's a good fighter," said Roger Mayweather, Floyd's uncle and trainer. "Everybody knows what Floyd can do. We don't have to remind them. Boxing is won by skill, and Floyd is the most skilled fighter in the sport."
Although Floyd Mayweather sees an uneasiness in Mosley's eyes, Mosley claims it's all for show, noting the two have been acquaintances for years. Mosley and Richardson have watched most of Mayweather's fights, searching for weaknesses.
"We'll dislike each other before May 1 -- and actually, I'm not even sure I dislike him now," Mosley said. "But after May 1, we won't dislike each other unless we have to fight again."
Richardson agrees with the criticism that Mosley only fights to his potential in his biggest bouts -- but Richardson sees it as a positive.
"You've got to keep him at his level," Richardson said. "You can't ask Baryshnikov to come dance down the street and then ask him why he didn't win the contest. That's not his level. With Floyd, you've got a guy who's worthy of fighting the best like Shane, and that has got Shane's attention."
Video:
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4966815
LOS ANGELES -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. has known he was inside Sugar Shane Mosley's head from the moment Mayweather's last fight ended.
That's when Mosley jumped into the ring last September to challenge Mayweather, who had just demolished Juan Manuel Marquez in his comeback bout from a 19-month layoff. After Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao couldn't make a deal, Mayweather accepted a deal to fight Mosley, already confident he had a mental edge.
"Shane is out of character in this whole thing," Mayweather said. "He doesn't talk trash. That's not like him to call out somebody. I think Bernard Hopkins [Mosley's business partner] put a battery in his back and pumped him up to say those things."
With a whole lot more civility, Mayweather and Mosley wrapped up a publicity tour in downtown Los Angeles on Thursday before several hundred fans mostly cheering for Mosley, a native of nearby Pomona. Mayweather, a Michigan native, has long called Las Vegas home.
This stop had a definite West Coast flavor: The crowd stood in a packed grandstand in picture-perfect sunshine while a deejay bumped Tupac, Snoop and Dr. Dre over the loudspeakers at a downtown plaza. Both fighters emerged from behind curtains and smoke for a brief jaw-to-jaw trash-talking session, followed by civilized speeches to the crowd.
"This fight is going to be on May 1st, but it's also going to be May's first [loss]," said a grinning Mosley, who showed up in a tailored green suit while Mayweather wore a quilted brown jacket and jeans.
Except for the fainting Tecate Girl, everything about the event suggested a smooth, professional fight when Mayweather and Mosley meet at the MGM Grand Garden.
A scantily-dressed woman representing the fight's sponsoring beer company swooned in the mild sun, falling down in front of the podium and prompting promoter Oscar De La Hoya to call for help before she recovered and walked away.
Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer is setting a formidable standard for the fight, proclaiming HBO can sell 3 million pay-per-view buys to make it the biggest fight in boxing history. Mayweather has sold about 4.5 million buys for his last three fights against De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Marquez, making him the sport's top pay-per-view draw.
Schaefer also is putting the fight in movie theaters and making a litany of sponsorship tie-ins for the bout, further promoting boxing to the interest of mainstream advertisers. But none of it will work without a solid fight, and Mosley trainer Naazim Richardson believes this bout will catch every fan's interest.
"Shane Mosley can knock out anything that weighs 147 pounds," said the affable Richardson, Hopkins' longtime trainer. "If a farm animal weighed that, Shane could knock him out. We're going to have to convince this man that he has to learn how to lose. He can forget it after us, but he's going to have to learn."
The fighters' comments were remarkably civilized after the contentious start to the tour in New York, where they shoved each other and had fewer positive things to say about each other. Mayweather practically fawned over Mosley and the fight's organizers in his comments, praising everybody on the stage.
"We didn't put him down because he's a good fighter," said Roger Mayweather, Floyd's uncle and trainer. "Everybody knows what Floyd can do. We don't have to remind them. Boxing is won by skill, and Floyd is the most skilled fighter in the sport."
Although Floyd Mayweather sees an uneasiness in Mosley's eyes, Mosley claims it's all for show, noting the two have been acquaintances for years. Mosley and Richardson have watched most of Mayweather's fights, searching for weaknesses.
"We'll dislike each other before May 1 -- and actually, I'm not even sure I dislike him now," Mosley said. "But after May 1, we won't dislike each other unless we have to fight again."
Richardson agrees with the criticism that Mosley only fights to his potential in his biggest bouts -- but Richardson sees it as a positive.
"You've got to keep him at his level," Richardson said. "You can't ask Baryshnikov to come dance down the street and then ask him why he didn't win the contest. That's not his level. With Floyd, you've got a guy who's worthy of fighting the best like Shane, and that has got Shane's attention."
Video:
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4966815
Cotto is Damn near my favorite fighter cuz the way he fights but he's not the same he use to be. He got outboxed by clottey even though he pulled out the win and it seems he has no power in his punches anymore cuz the last 3 fighters he's faced his punches didn't fase his opponents while mosley totally obliterated margarito. Mannys punches aren't gonna hurt clottey therefore all the manny fans better pray he can take punches from a real welterweight
^^negative pacquiao comment by tony, surprise surprise!
Freddie Roach analyzes Mayweather-Mosley
March 1, 2010 | 1:14 pm
There's not much that Manny Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, likes right now about Floyd Mayweather Jr., after the unbeaten fighter wouldn't relent on his push to adopt strict drug-testing guidelines -- a stance that helped scrap a bout that would've guaranteed each fighter $25 million.
Yet, when asked to pick who'd win Mayweather's May 1 bout against Pomona's Shane Mosley at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Roach put aside the hard feelings.
"I like Mayweather to win," Roach said. "I do hope Shane finds a way; he's my friend, but he has trouble with speed and the movement he'll get from Mayweather, so I think Floyd will win a decision."
Mayweather and Mosley are due in Los Angeles on Thursday for a noon news conference at L.A. Live. Tickets for their fight, ranging from $150 to $1,250, will go on sale through Ticketmaster at 10 a.m. PST Tuesday.
Roach predicted Mosley won't implement a major change to his fighting style, assessing that at 38 the world welterweight champion, who last fought in January 2009 versus Antonio Margarito, "is set in his ways."
Asked how Mosley should fight Mayweather, Roach said, "The same thing we'll have to do if that fight ever happens, but I'm not going to tell you that, in case we do get that fight."
Roach said he believes Mosley "will go after [Mayweather], and pressure him, and be very aggressive.
"But he has to be careful about doing that because he risks walking into some counterpunches. Floyd's not just a runner. He'll set you up. I'm sure Shane knows that. It'll be interesting to see how he deals with that."
Roach told The Times in a article Monday that there's a possibility Pacquiao will stop boxing after his March 13 fight against Joshua Clottey, because of the problematic negotiations with Mayweather and the absence of any other major fights.
However, Roach said that if Mosley can upset Mayweather, a Pacquiao-Mosley showdown would "be the fight of the year, for sure. Both guys want to fight. They'd come right at each other until one falls.
"I hope that happens. Then we wouldn't have to deal with the [behavior] of Mayweather."
-- Lance Pugmire
Freddie Roach analyzes Mayweather-Mosley
March 1, 2010 | 1:14 pm
There's not much that Manny Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, likes right now about Floyd Mayweather Jr., after the unbeaten fighter wouldn't relent on his push to adopt strict drug-testing guidelines -- a stance that helped scrap a bout that would've guaranteed each fighter $25 million.
Yet, when asked to pick who'd win Mayweather's May 1 bout against Pomona's Shane Mosley at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Roach put aside the hard feelings.
"I like Mayweather to win," Roach said. "I do hope Shane finds a way; he's my friend, but he has trouble with speed and the movement he'll get from Mayweather, so I think Floyd will win a decision."
Mayweather and Mosley are due in Los Angeles on Thursday for a noon news conference at L.A. Live. Tickets for their fight, ranging from $150 to $1,250, will go on sale through Ticketmaster at 10 a.m. PST Tuesday.
Roach predicted Mosley won't implement a major change to his fighting style, assessing that at 38 the world welterweight champion, who last fought in January 2009 versus Antonio Margarito, "is set in his ways."
Asked how Mosley should fight Mayweather, Roach said, "The same thing we'll have to do if that fight ever happens, but I'm not going to tell you that, in case we do get that fight."
Roach said he believes Mosley "will go after [Mayweather], and pressure him, and be very aggressive.
"But he has to be careful about doing that because he risks walking into some counterpunches. Floyd's not just a runner. He'll set you up. I'm sure Shane knows that. It'll be interesting to see how he deals with that."
Roach told The Times in a article Monday that there's a possibility Pacquiao will stop boxing after his March 13 fight against Joshua Clottey, because of the problematic negotiations with Mayweather and the absence of any other major fights.
However, Roach said that if Mosley can upset Mayweather, a Pacquiao-Mosley showdown would "be the fight of the year, for sure. Both guys want to fight. They'd come right at each other until one falls.
"I hope that happens. Then we wouldn't have to deal with the [behavior] of Mayweather."
-- Lance Pugmire
Damnit. I'm still torn.
Looking back at all of the people who beat Mosley, and they all had great jabs. Great jabs. I don't think Floyd has a great jab, as he uses it more as a measuring stick to set up his lead left hook and straight rights.
I know his movement though, will give Mosley problems, and not sure if Mosley's legs can keep up with chasing him around and cutting the ring off effectively throughout a whole 12 round fight.
I'm still going with Shane in the upset...though I wouldn't put any money on it. I think Nazzim will have a good gameplan for him, but not sure if physically he will be able to carry it out for the entire fight.
Looking back at all of the people who beat Mosley, and they all had great jabs. Great jabs. I don't think Floyd has a great jab, as he uses it more as a measuring stick to set up his lead left hook and straight rights.
I know his movement though, will give Mosley problems, and not sure if Mosley's legs can keep up with chasing him around and cutting the ring off effectively throughout a whole 12 round fight.
I'm still going with Shane in the upset...though I wouldn't put any money on it. I think Nazzim will have a good gameplan for him, but not sure if physically he will be able to carry it out for the entire fight.