Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao negotiation timeline
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Roach: Mayweather will Never Face Pacquiao, Khan Maybe
by Chris LaBate
In a recent interview with the Grand Rapids Press, trainer Freddie Roach downplayed any possibility of Floyd Mayweather Jr. facing Manny Pacquiao in the future. Mayweather faces WBC welterweight champion Victor Ortiz on September 17, while Pacquiao takes on Juan Manuel Marquez on November 12.
However, Roach feels that his other star fighter, WBA 140-pound champion Amir Khan, has a much better shot to secure a fight with Mayweather. Khan faces IBF champion Zab Judah in a unification bout on July 23. Khan has already sat down with Golden Boy Promotions to discuss the possibility of facing Mayweather in 2012. Khan is confident the fight will happen within twelve months.
"I don't think Mayweather will ever fight Manny Pacquiao,” Roach said. "[Team Khan] have a better chance of getting Mayweather into the ring than Manny. If the fight (Mayweather-Pacquiao) was going to happen, it would've happened already."
I'm telling you Khan will fight Mayweather and Manny will keep on ducking random testing.
by Chris LaBate
In a recent interview with the Grand Rapids Press, trainer Freddie Roach downplayed any possibility of Floyd Mayweather Jr. facing Manny Pacquiao in the future. Mayweather faces WBC welterweight champion Victor Ortiz on September 17, while Pacquiao takes on Juan Manuel Marquez on November 12.
However, Roach feels that his other star fighter, WBA 140-pound champion Amir Khan, has a much better shot to secure a fight with Mayweather. Khan faces IBF champion Zab Judah in a unification bout on July 23. Khan has already sat down with Golden Boy Promotions to discuss the possibility of facing Mayweather in 2012. Khan is confident the fight will happen within twelve months.
"I don't think Mayweather will ever fight Manny Pacquiao,” Roach said. "[Team Khan] have a better chance of getting Mayweather into the ring than Manny. If the fight (Mayweather-Pacquiao) was going to happen, it would've happened already."
I'm telling you Khan will fight Mayweather and Manny will keep on ducking random testing.
Arum: Pacquiao Will Take The Tests, Not With USADA
by Phil D. Jay
WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao has given the clearest indication yet that he is willing to abide by the conditions laid down by Floyd Mayweather in order to get a 2012 fight between the two pound for pound greats. Mayweather, 35, has insisted that Pacquiao agrees to USADA (US Anti-Doping Agency) random drug testing before any potential fight between them and the Filipino is willing to agree if certain terms can be met.
The 32 year-old, according to promoter Bob Arum, has given the green light to the random testing, but has provisions set so that ‘Money’ doesn’t have negotiations all his own way. The eight-time world champion has offered to take the tests, but only if a neutral organization is involved, ruling out being tested by the USADA, which Mayweather wanted.
"We have agreed in the Pacquiao camp to unlimited random testing done by a responsible, neutral organization," Arum told an ESPN report.
"We don't believe USADA (United States Anti-Doping Agency) is a neutral organization.”
Top Rank supremo Arum has suggested that an organisation that deals with Athletes at Olympic level could be drafted in to administer the tests and replace the USADA for this special circumstance.
"I don't think anybody's test is as vigorous as the test administered by the Olympic Organization.
“If Mayweather says he's agreeable to us, then we can have the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight next year," added Arum.
Here's Bob Arum playing more games with the testing. If anyone still believes that Top Rank wanted to make the fight with Mayweather please slap yourself. It's pretty clear that Top Rank is the reason the fight will not happen. Manny will keep on ducking random testing. When will the Manny fans wake up and call out the bs so the fight can happen. I guess Khan is next for Mayweather and Manny will fight the winner of the Cotto vs Margarito fight.
by Phil D. Jay
WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao has given the clearest indication yet that he is willing to abide by the conditions laid down by Floyd Mayweather in order to get a 2012 fight between the two pound for pound greats. Mayweather, 35, has insisted that Pacquiao agrees to USADA (US Anti-Doping Agency) random drug testing before any potential fight between them and the Filipino is willing to agree if certain terms can be met.
The 32 year-old, according to promoter Bob Arum, has given the green light to the random testing, but has provisions set so that ‘Money’ doesn’t have negotiations all his own way. The eight-time world champion has offered to take the tests, but only if a neutral organization is involved, ruling out being tested by the USADA, which Mayweather wanted.
"We have agreed in the Pacquiao camp to unlimited random testing done by a responsible, neutral organization," Arum told an ESPN report.
"We don't believe USADA (United States Anti-Doping Agency) is a neutral organization.”
Top Rank supremo Arum has suggested that an organisation that deals with Athletes at Olympic level could be drafted in to administer the tests and replace the USADA for this special circumstance.
"I don't think anybody's test is as vigorous as the test administered by the Olympic Organization.
“If Mayweather says he's agreeable to us, then we can have the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight next year," added Arum.
Here's Bob Arum playing more games with the testing. If anyone still believes that Top Rank wanted to make the fight with Mayweather please slap yourself. It's pretty clear that Top Rank is the reason the fight will not happen. Manny will keep on ducking random testing. When will the Manny fans wake up and call out the bs so the fight can happen. I guess Khan is next for Mayweather and Manny will fight the winner of the Cotto vs Margarito fight.
^^because of how during the shane vs floyd fight their reasoning for not testing during the final 18 days was because they had no suspicions to test them further. Random testing shouldn't be based on human suspicions it should be completely random, like computer generated or whatever.
floyd had already said before he doesn't mind if it's another agency other than USADA, as long as it's random.
floyd had already said before he doesn't mind if it's another agency other than USADA, as long as it's random.
In another thread a couple of months back I mentioned how there was no testing furing the final 18 days and said that random should mean random and should be up to the fight or a specified time period. If he doesn't have a problem with the USADA not doing the test, and isn't concerned unless the tests are random and OSDT, we should have the fight.
My point is Bob Arum is already causing problems for the fight to be made. 1st Manny was scared of needles, 2nd blood testing will make Manny weak, 3rd Manny needs a 30 days non testing window, and 4th the new one is he doesn't trust USADA. I just don't see Top Rank being pro-active about making this fight happen. Why is random testing such a big deal for Manny?? You wonder why Mayweather took a vacation because Top Rank is not really trying to make this fight happen. Top Rank has made nothing but excuses on why Manny can't be tested for 2 years now.
Then one would think that Top Rank should be fine with USADA doing the testing... they stopped at 18 days, they might do the same with Pacquiao and Floyd. I recall Pacquiao saying he's fine giving blood just not the day of the fight. So why are they worried about who is doing the testing?
Now they're creating another problem in my opinion. If it's not one thing it's another.... They should use whoever Shane and Victor Ortiz is using, damn man....
Now they're creating another problem in my opinion. If it's not one thing it's another.... They should use whoever Shane and Victor Ortiz is using, damn man....
I don't think it should be a problem because team Floyd said this:
"We are OK to move off USADA," Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who is representing Mayweather, told ESPN.com. "What we're saying, and what is important to us, is four things -- that the tests be random, that they include blood and urine and the time frame, meaning when do you stop the tests before the fight but know they will still be effective. Three of them we have agreed on -- random, blood and urine. So now it is a matter of the two sides working out the specifics of the cutoff date to assure it will still be effective."
"USADA is the most recognized one, but if it's another one, like the Nevada commission, we don't really care. I don't care who performs the tests as long as they are performed. That's our position. If this fight doesn't happen it's not because of Team Mayweather." ESPN
There is some controversy with the USADA taking bribes and again, basing a lot of what they do on suspicion.
So perhaps the fear with Bob Arum is that because Pac has been suspected of using PEDS by the mayweathers, they may test him more than normal. That's what I'm guessing.
Again I can care less who does the testing, but the USADA isn't the only agency that can do random testing and team mayeather already said they are fine with another agency.
"We are OK to move off USADA," Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who is representing Mayweather, told ESPN.com. "What we're saying, and what is important to us, is four things -- that the tests be random, that they include blood and urine and the time frame, meaning when do you stop the tests before the fight but know they will still be effective. Three of them we have agreed on -- random, blood and urine. So now it is a matter of the two sides working out the specifics of the cutoff date to assure it will still be effective."
"USADA is the most recognized one, but if it's another one, like the Nevada commission, we don't really care. I don't care who performs the tests as long as they are performed. That's our position. If this fight doesn't happen it's not because of Team Mayweather." ESPN
There is some controversy with the USADA taking bribes and again, basing a lot of what they do on suspicion.
So perhaps the fear with Bob Arum is that because Pac has been suspected of using PEDS by the mayweathers, they may test him more than normal. That's what I'm guessing.
Again I can care less who does the testing, but the USADA isn't the only agency that can do random testing and team mayeather already said they are fine with another agency.
Just as I thought, Arum wants WADA, which is the World anti doping agency.
Arum: We Would Use WADA For Mayweather-Pacquiao
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“We don’t accept the USADA handling it,” Arum told me. “We do accept the prestigious, well-respected WADA. On those terms, Pacquiao will submit to whatever (blood) testing is required so we can make the big fight.”
Makes sense to me. WADA is the world body and both Mayweather and Pacquiao have multiple world championship histories.
It’s no insult to USADA, really, with American Mayweather fighting Filipino Pacquiao. It’s not something absurd and outlandish such as Arum proposing a drug testing agency from Pacman’s homeland handle the testing.
I’ve no doubt the Nevada commission would permit Mayweather and Pacquiao to make a contract specifying, chapter and verse, what the required testing would be, when it could take place, etc.
Nevada badly wants and sorely needs the revenue such a boxing bonanza brings to Las Vegas' tourist service economy. I see no NSAC impediment especially where Tygart was like a bull in a china shop in his decidedly negative testimony before the state board on June 9, 2010. Tygart didn't ruffle Nevada feathers, he torched them.
If Mayweather really wants to fight Pacman, then he will agree to WADA and Tygart will also support this, if only to advance Tygart’s crusade.
http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-we-use-wada-mayweather-pacquiao--41407
Arum: We Would Use WADA For Mayweather-Pacquiao
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“We don’t accept the USADA handling it,” Arum told me. “We do accept the prestigious, well-respected WADA. On those terms, Pacquiao will submit to whatever (blood) testing is required so we can make the big fight.”
Makes sense to me. WADA is the world body and both Mayweather and Pacquiao have multiple world championship histories.
It’s no insult to USADA, really, with American Mayweather fighting Filipino Pacquiao. It’s not something absurd and outlandish such as Arum proposing a drug testing agency from Pacman’s homeland handle the testing.
I’ve no doubt the Nevada commission would permit Mayweather and Pacquiao to make a contract specifying, chapter and verse, what the required testing would be, when it could take place, etc.
Nevada badly wants and sorely needs the revenue such a boxing bonanza brings to Las Vegas' tourist service economy. I see no NSAC impediment especially where Tygart was like a bull in a china shop in his decidedly negative testimony before the state board on June 9, 2010. Tygart didn't ruffle Nevada feathers, he torched them.
If Mayweather really wants to fight Pacman, then he will agree to WADA and Tygart will also support this, if only to advance Tygart’s crusade.
http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-we-use-wada-mayweather-pacquiao--41407
