FAKE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY

[EDJ]

HERESY, MIggIDY, AND INFERNO,
THE ONLY TRINITY I SEE IS YAW TRYIN' TO TRIPLE TEAM A MUTHA-FUKA. LOL JUST PLAYIN'.

HERESY,

I WAS JUST ASKIN' WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT IT. I WANTED YOUR INSIgHT IN YOUR POINT OF VIEW.

MIggIDY,
THAT DON'T PROVE A TRINITY. A DOCTRINE THAT SEEMS TO BE SO HOLY AND THE CENTRAL DOgMA FOR A LOT OF CHRISTIAN SECTS SHOULD BE WELL AKNOWLEDgED THRU-OUT THE HOLY SCRIPTURES. BUT SCRIPTURE DOESN'T EVEN REVERE IT LIKE THAT.

INFERNO,

YOU STRESSED, "It was posted a few days ago or so. I was just curious why someone posted it about you thats all. Its not that deep of a question."

SOME BULLSHIT POSTER THAT'S BEEN BANNED TIME AND AgAIN, FELT LIKE HE HAD TO PUT ME ON THE SPOT CAUSE HE CAN'T SEE ME FACE TO FACE. HE BASICALLY HAS THIS WHITE PRIVILEDgED MENTALITY AND SEEN AN OLD ASS POST I MADE AND DISAgREED WITH WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT. HE TRIED TO COME AT ME SIDEWAYS AND I CHECCED HIS ASS(AgAIN). SO THE ONLY THANg HE COULD DO IS MAKE POSTS ABOUT ME AND TRY TO gET PEOPLE BEHIND HIM. I gUESS HE ENJOYS THE ATTENTION.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I answered all of your rebuttals in my last post."

NO YOU DID NOT. YOU MADE ANOTHA POST WITH A REBUTTAL TO MY INITIAL PARAgRAPH I ADDRESSED TO YOU BEFORE I COMPLETELY ANSWERED "ALL" OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I will reiterate that it is not profitable to anyone to deal with any subject regarding the bible when the opposition has other bibles or versions for that matter to debate with."

WHAT YOU MEAN PROFITABLE? I AIN'T MAKIN' MONEY OFF OF THIS. SO YOU SAYIN' THAT YOU SCARED TO gET DOWN TO THE NITTY-gRITTY CAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR TRANSLATION OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES IS THE ONLY ONE TO ADHERE TO EVEN IF THERE IS PROOF THAT THERE'S FLAWS?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I fully comprehend why HERESY said why he wouldn't continue in any more religous threads."

ME TOO.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You can just go in circles all day."

IF THAT'S WHAT'S gOIN' ON.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "One, it doesn't really matter how much you prove any point, cause all you have to do is search the web to find a site where it counters the subject your dealing with and there you have it. A person has a rebuttal."

WELL, FOR ONE I DIDN'T gO TO N-E SITE TO gET THE INFORMATION I gAVE. I ACTUALLY SAT DOWN AND LOOKED EVERY SCRIPTURE YOU gAVE AND READ WHAT YOU WERE TRYIN' TO SEE. THEN I RESEARCHED THE INFORMATION AND TEXT AND COMPARED BIBLES AND LOOKED FOR INFORMATION CONCERNIN' THE CONTEXT AND SCRIPTURE TO SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENT SCRIPTURES READ. IN OTHA WORDS, I REALLY TOOK THE TIME OUT OF MY SCHEDULE.
XNDLY,
I gAVE MY OWN WORDS AND PROVIDED YOU WITH INFORMATION CONCERNIN' EVERYTHANg COVERED.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I am firm on my position, not close minded."

IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THEN YOU WOULDN'T MIND LOOKIN' INTO THE INFORMATION gIVEN AND PROVIN' IT FALSE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I have studied and experienced enough to be convinced of my position."

WHAT IS YOUR POSITION? WHAT DO YOU SEE THAT I DON'T? WHY DOES IT MAKE SO MUCH SENSE TO YOU THAT (gOD) AND JESUS ARE THE SAME? WHY WOULD (gOD) TRY TO DECIEVE BY YOUR LOgIC?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I don't mind at all dealing with your previous posts but come on man, when a point is made, all you have to do is state "well the bible im reading say this or that"."

BUT THAT AIN'T THE POINT. YOU CAN READ N-E SCRIPTURE, BUT THE THANg IS, WHERE IS THAT BASED ON? EVERY TRANSLATION OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES SUPPOSEDLY COMES FROM THE MAIN SOURCE, SO IT'S THAT SOURCE WE TRYIN' TO gET TO. SO IF I BRINg UP DIFFERENT BIBLES, IT'S TO SHOW THE TRANSLATION OF THE SAME PASSAgE AND TRYIN' TO gET TO THE NITTY gRITTY OF WHAT WAS MEANT IN THAT PASSAgE. YOU ON THE OTHA HAND SEEM LIKE YOU TRYIN' TO HOLD ON TO DEAR LIFE TO YOUR RENDITION OF THAT SCRIPTURE, AND DEFEND YOUR BIBLE LIKE KINg JAMES IS YOUR gOD.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "And I have given you enough for my reasoning by sticking to the KJV. So do you see how it can just become redundant. I know others have."

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU AVOIDIN' TO CHOP IT UP CAUSE YOU LOVE KINg JAMES A LITTLE TOO MUCH. LET ME REITERATE THAT THE KJV AIN'T THE AUTHORITY IN (gOD)'S WORD. IT'S SIMPLY ONE TRANSLATION OUT OF MANY, WITH QUESTIONABLE PASSAgES.

BUT LET ME STRESS THIS. I UNDASTAND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO CHOP IT UP WITH A PLAYA AND TRY TO gET DOWN TO THE NITTY gRITTY OF THIS TRINITY DOCTRINE WHICH TO ME IS FALSE, THEN THAT'S YOUR CHOICE. BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT I WENT ALL OUT MY WAY TO ACCOMODATE ANSWERS FOR YOU AND NOT JUST LINK YOU TO SITES OR USE THEY WORDS. I WENT AS FAR AS TO PAY THIS PUNK ASS LIBRARY SO I COULD PRINT OUT YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN I WENT HOME AND DID SOME STUDYIN'(TWO DAYS IN A ROW). I WROTE AND LOOKED UP SCRIPTURE AND PUT MY REBUTTAL TOgETHA. WRITTEN DOWN IT WAS 10 PAgES LONg. THEN I HAD TO TYPE ALL THAT AND LOOK OVER EVERYTHANg AND CORRECT MY MISTAKES. THEN I HAD TO COME BAK TO THE PUNK ASS LIBRARY TO gET ON THE NET AND THEN STRUCTURE MY REBUTTAL AND COPY AND PASTE WHAT I TYPED. SO I WENT TO gREAT LENgTHS TO ANSWER YOU TO ONLY gET BAK THIS? THAT'S FUCCED UP CUZZ. I THOUgHT YOU WAS BETTER THAN THAT. IT'S ALL gRAVY, NOW I KNOW.

 

[inferno]

@ EDJ

If I remember correctly I stated I would answer your above posts. And for the record I have already written my rebuttals down as well. I wasn't finished with them so I answered one of your posts that didn't require any studying.

I mentioned what I did about going in circles because I clearly see how easy it is to do it. For you to go to such lengths to reply is appreciated and I will return the favor. I do not feel the slightest bit like you have an edge in your comprehension. But the source that is used has to be the final authority.

And which source is the most accurate. If we can clearly determine this then we both have an equal playing field. So to "get down to the nitty gritty" you have to at least come to terms on which source you are going to use as the standard. Because like I said any time a point is made or stressed, all one has to do is get another bible or source and mention it doesn't read that way in that bible.

So be patient and I shall continue to make a contribution as well, so we can go in circles some more.

 

[EDJ]

^MAN,
NOBODY WANNA gO IN CIRCLES. BUT THE POINT IS THAT THE BIBLE COMES FROM ONE SOURCE RIgHT? SO WE HAVE TO DIg DEEPER THAN THESE TRANSLATIONS AND gO ABOUT TRYIN' TO SEE WHAT THE ORIgINAL TEXT READS IN ITS ORIgINAL LANgUAgE AND HOW THEY TRANSLATE INTO THE LANgUAgE WE SPEAK NOW. BUT SINCE THE TRANSLATIONS IS WHAT WE gOT NOW, IT'S gOOD TO COMPARE AND SEE WHAT IS WHAT AND WEIgH THE CONTEXT AND CALIBRATE IT TO OTHA PASSAgES TO SEE IF THE INTERPRETATION OF THAT PASSAgE AND IT'S CONTEXT AgREE WITH THE OTHA OR CONTRADICTS IT. BUT DO YO THANg PLAYA.

 

[HERESY]

TEXTUS RECEPTUS (MAJOR)

YOU GUYS SHOULD LOOK INTO THE BOOK ENTITLED:

WORD MEANINGS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

AUTHOR: RALPH EARLE

ISBN: 0-8010-3434 (USE THIS NUMBER IN CASE YOU WANT TO FIND THE BOOK)


In case you don't want to read/learn hebrew, latin and greek snatch the book. In case you refuse to grab a concordence or lexicon grab this book.


When you study (or read this book) you'll be able to understand the "contradictions" and you'll be able to see where different doctrines/creeds come from.


A good example of this is how some religions claim Yeshua was a CREATED being, only begotten, first born etc etc etc. When they study they will come to the logical conclusion that these are TITLES and have NOTHING to do with chronology.



:hgk:

 

[EDJ]

^I DISAgREE WITH "A good example of this is how some religions claim Yeshua was a CREATED being, only begotten, first born etc etc etc. When they study they will come to the logical conclusion that these are TITLES and have NOTHING to do with chronology."

BUT THANKS FOR THE INFO.

 

[HERESY]

^^^^ You can disagree all you want. You should study the language and the proper context before you disagree.



:hgk:

 

[EDJ]

HERESY,
HOW YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW SOME gREEK OR HEBREW? SO HOW MANY TIMES IS THIS TERM USED IN ALL THE SCRIPTURES(IN IT'S ORIgINAL LANgUAgE) AND IS THERE OTHA INFERENCES WHEN ONLY-BEgOTTEN IS USED?

 

[HERESY]

^^^ I'm not saying that you don't know hebrew or greek playboy. Let's say you do know it. Why do you disagree? The question you asked (how many times it has been used etc etc etc) was actually asked and answered YEARS ago.


Snatch the book I listed and you'll be on your way. If not find a strongs concordence and greek lexicon.

 

[EDJ]

^LET'S TALK ABOUT "MO*NO*gE*NES' " AND "AR*KHE' " AND THE WAYS THEY WERE TRANSLATED. I KNOW YOU BROUgHT THAT WORD UP BUT I FORgOT WHAT POST. CAN YOU LINK ME?

 

[HERESY]

^^^ WHAT YOU'RE ASKING WILL SIMPLY LEAD INTO A LONG DRAWN OUT DEBATE ABOUT THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION AND HOW THE JW BIBLE WAS TRANSLATED.


I'LL PASS.


:H:

 

[EDJ]

^LOL. COME ON WITH THE PRE-CONCEIVED NOTIONS. ALL I'M ASKIN' IS FOR A LINK SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW ONLY-BEgOTTEN WAS TRANSLATED AND IN WHAT INSTANCES THEY WERE USED. YOU SAYIN' IT'S A TITLE AND I'M SAYIN' IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT THEN YOU SAYIN' I'M USIN' A CERTAIN BIBLE AND DEFENDIN' IT. I'M JUST THE SAME OLD MUTHA-FUKA DOWN TO gET DOWN TO THE NITTY gRITTY.

 

[HERESY]

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW IT WAS TRANSLATED ITS GOING TO LEAD INTO WHO TRANSLATED IT, WHAT THEY TRANSLATED IT FROM ETC ETC ETC.


I'M NOT GETTING SUCKERED INTO THAT. SORRY.


:HGK:

 

[EDJ]

^WHO SAID YOU gETTIN' SUCCERED? TRUTH IS TRUTH.

BTW, SEND THAT E-MAIL ABOUT YOUR LOgO.

 

[EDJ]

OH YEAH,
HOW YOU gONNA gET SUCCERED BY SOMEBODY WHO YOU CLAIM DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE TOPIC MATTER? IF N-E-THANg, YOU gONNA BE SMASHIN' ON ME, RIgHT?

 

[miggidy]

EDJ,

the trinity idea is prominent through out the scripture(s).
It might not be in the form of conventional Christianism, but it's there none the less.
From Adam, Eve and their children (the idea of family), to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (again, a family), and the Dragon, The Beast of the Sea, and the Beast of the Land (the Satanic trinity, also a family)....

 

[EDJ]

MIggIDY,
THE TRINITY IS PROMINENT AMONg PAgAN RELIgIONS. FROM THE EgYPTIANS, HINDU'S, BABYLONIANS, TO PLATONISM. IT'S AN IDEA BORROWED FROM SUCH, AND CREPT IN CRISTIANITY, THUS FULFILLIN' THE PROPHECY THAT CHRISTIANITY WOULD SUFFER AN APOSTASY. DO SOME RESEARCH PLAYA.

 

[HERESY]

:shaking my head:

 

[miggidy]

EDJ I did do some research on this in the past.
At least through the net.
Some atheist cats claimed that the idea of a Christ, the Madonna, and the trinity were all ideas borrowed from other religions or myths.
There's websites all over the place boasting these bold claims but I didn't even find one site with facts to support their claims.
I found nothing but recycled material and websites basically quoting other websites.
Sort of like myths of their own lol.

If you have any info, please do share....

 

[EDJ]

^LOOK AT MY REPLY TO INFERNO. A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.

 

[EDJ]

HERESY,
SHAKE IT ALL YOU WANT PLAYA.