Faith is Healthy?

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The Power of Belief: Surprising Studies on Faith and Health

By Lonny J. Brown, Ph.D.



Do you think you know what makes for good health? A low-fat diet? Exercise? Flu shots? If you left out faith, some scientists say you could be overlooking something important.



Faith means having strong belief systems, whether you're religious or not. Spirituality can be practicing yoga or meditation, or just contemplating nature. An optimistic outlook and the ability to handle stress are qualities needed to prevent depression and to fight back when serious illness strikes.



Modern medicine can treat – and often conquer – disease. But we have yet to understand why some people overcome serious illness against all odds. After decades of research at Harvard Medical School and elsewhere, experts have concluded that the mind plays a strong role in healing the body – and that belief can be powerful medicine. “Between 50 to 90 percent of all diseases can be affected by patient belief,” says Herbert Benson, M.D., president of the Mind/Body Institute at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston. “And, 90 percent of Americans report that their strongest belief is in God.”



A recent conference in Boston revealed that medicine is taking a serious look at the role of “faith” in healing, and some observers call it one of the hottest topics in science today.



Can Faith “Heal?”

The three-day conference, “Spiritu*ality & Healing in Medicine,” sponsored by Harvard Medical School and the Mind/Body Medical Institute, brought together 600 leading researchers, psychologists, clergy, physicians and educators active on this research. Their overwhelming conclusion: faith and the human spirit cannot be separated from clinical care and medicine. And they have the data to back it up.



Over the past 10 years, there have been almost 1,500 research studies into the effects of religious involvement or spirituality (prayer or meditation), conducted by a group of researchers affiliated with Harvard, Duke and Yale Universities, studying religious service attendance much in the same way diet and drugs are studied. These studies have found that people who practice a faith have less heart disease, lower blood pressure, fewer strokes, less depression, faster recovery from illness, and may even live longer.



“At least six studies in the past two years have found a relationship between involvement in a religious community and longer survival. Religious beliefs and activities are associated with better mental and physical health in the vast majority of the studies,” reported Harold G. Koenig, M.D., M.H.Sc., founding director of the Center for the Study of Religion, Spirituality and Health at Duke University Medical Center, in Durham, North Carolina.



For example, he says, frequent church attenders were only half as likely as non-attenders to have high levels of interleukin-6 (a blood protein indicative of immune system dysfunction), suggesting they have stronger immune systems. Researchers also find that spirituality or regular attendance at a church, synagogue or mosque helps people better cope with life stresses, provides crucial social supports, promotes a healthier lifestyle, lowers anxiety and encourages optimism. On the other hand, lack of religious involvement (or feeling alienated) has negative effects on health; in one study by Dr. Koenig, those negative effects were equivalent to 40 years of smoking a pack of cigarettes a day.



Females, Faith and Health

“There are exceptions, but most religious organizations have a general philosophical outlook on the importance of taking care of your body because it is a gift from God,” observes William J. Strawbridge, Ph.D., Senior Research Scientist at the Human Population Laboratory in Berkeley.



“People who attend religious services regularly but have poor health behaviors, such as smoking or not exercising, are more likely to improve those behaviors over time than those who attend less. People who start out with good health behaviors are more likely to maintain them if they are regular attenders. One reason may be that religious attendance may expose people to messages that discourage smoking and encourage respect for the human body,” says Dr. Strawbridge. And women may be more receptive than men to those messages.



In a study published in the February 2001 Annals of Behavioral Medicine, Dr. Strawbridge found that people who attended religious services were more likely to quit smoking, become more physically active, become less depressed, increase social relationships, and initiate and maintain stable marriages. In the study of 2,600 California residents over nearly 30 years, Dr. Strawbridge noted that women were more likely than men to improve poor health behaviors and mental health. Women may be more involved in religious organizations than men, and may be more in tune with the messages they receive, he says. Women may also use religious organizations for support more often than men and benefit from the social networks they form.



“Clinically – at least what we can see from mortality studies – women benefit from religion more than men,” agrees David Larson, M.D., President of the National Institute for Healthcare Research in Rockville, Maryland. “The survival rate for women of faith with life-threatening illnesses is higher than that of their male counterparts.”



Belief is Strong Medicine

Over the years, Dr. Larson has catalogued many of the clinical findings in the field of “spiritual medicine.” Among them:

The greater their intrinsic “religious” experience, the faster patients recovered from depression.
Patients receiving religiously-oriented psychotherapy showed significantly more rapid improvement in anxiety symptoms than those receiving traditional therapy.
The strength of a patient's religious commitment predicted survival rates after heart surgery.
Heart transplant patients who had strong beliefs, and who participated in religious activities, showed more improved physical functioning.
Elderly women who had the best surgical outcomes after hip fractures were those who found belief in God a strong source of strength and comfort, and who frequently attended religious services. They could also walk farther at discharge than patients who lacked a strong religious commitment.


Mixing Medicine and Spirituality

Medicine has been taking note of these trends. More than half the nation's medical schools are now providing coursework or lectures on the subject, compared to just a handful a few years ago. The venerable American College of Physicians and the American Society of Internal Medicine have both suggested that doctors review the beliefs of patients with serious illness.



Of course, some scientists do not believe that medicine and spirituality can or should be mixed. But experts note that prayer can be seen as a form of meditation, and meditation has a number of health benefits, including lowering blood pressure. Numerous studies have also shown that optimism and social support can help people recover from serious illness. Dr. Benson believes psycho-spiritual factors are so important that he'd like to rename the much misunderstood placebo effect “Remembered Wellness,” because its powers are so intrinsic to human experience.



“We need to learn how religious attendance may increase survival and improve health,” concludes Dr. Strawbridge. “Discovering exactly how it affects adopting good health

behaviors can help us design strategies to improve public health as a whole, to intervene before illness strikes, and to provide effective self-care treatment when it does.”



Including spirituality in your life

Researchers in mind/body medicine emphasize that faith cannot be applied like a prescription drug. The beneficial influences of religion and spirituality accumulate over a lifetime. But assuming that these factors can only aid good health, here are some ways you might include spirituality in your life:

Try attending religious services (or a spiritual group activity). Participation can be therapeutic, if you believe in it.
If you wish to pray, pray for understanding and acceptance, not specific outcomes. Just feeling connected is better than petitioning for guaranteed results.
In counseling? Find a therapist who can address your soul and as well as your mind and emotions.
Think good thoughts. Optimism and cheerfulness can make a positive difference.


http://www.lupusmn.org/Education/Articles/ThePowerofBeliefSurprisingStudiesonFaithandHealth.htm


This makes sense to me, and shows how religion CAN be a good thing. Too bad that's almost always not the case though.

Any other thoughts?
 

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it might have some hormonal effect, but this is totally irrelevant to the question whether what you believe in has any remote connection with reality or not..

in other words, what makes you feel good and what the real world is are not necessarily one and the same, in fact usually they're very different things
 
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it might have some hormonal effect, but this is totally irrelevant to the question whether what you believe in has any remote connection with reality or not..

in other words, what makes you feel good and what the real world is are not necessarily one and the same, in fact usually they're very different things
Well, some people believe that what makes you feel good is more important than the reality of the world, or at least just as equal. And I fully understand why they do it...

IMO faith keeps people happy for the most part.

Happiness does miracles for people, health wise.

So it is really not faith that does it, but happiness.

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So if faith keeps people happy, how is it really not faith? I believe you have a condradiction here...
 
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it might have some hormonal effect, but this is totally irrelevant to the question whether what you believe in has any remote connection with reality or not..

in other words, what makes you feel good and what the real world is are not necessarily one and the same, in fact usually they're very different things
i disagree, ive read a few times in various places, that you can speak things into existence, and believe in something until it becomes true. like people that are always saying "poor me, nothing works out for me" guess what, nothing will ever work out for them as long as they keep this up. this doesnt mean you can speak god or a creator into existence if thats what your talking about
 

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i disagree, ive read a few times in various places, that you can speak things into existence, and believe in something until it becomes true. like people that are always saying "poor me, nothing works out for me" guess what, nothing will ever work out for them as long as they keep this up. this doesnt mean you can speak god or a creator into existence if thats what your talking about
I can only laugh at what you say; sorry

There are natural laws and you can't break them, no matter how strong you wish it
 
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its just the basic concept of having a negative vs. positive outlook on life.
like yeah, i see all the shit goin on...it gets sad, but i got a positive outlook and i'm willing to work my ass til i die to help change shit, i don't care if its 30 people that i help or 300,000(that'd be coo tho), i wanna teach and help people feel better about themselves and their place in the world.

never been religious, only philosophical.


but yeah on that note, i know a lot of philosophy students who are cokeheads...so thats kinda weird to me..
 

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Believing in something for which there is no proof of existence is a big reason this world is fucked up imo. Faith is one of the evils of our world and teaching kids to believe in what they can't see is borderline-brainwash.

Whether it keeps people 'healthier' than otherwise has always been debatable, and I can show studies that counter this one with equivalent numbers of data. But even if it 'does' keep individuals more healthy themselves, it's not worth the hurt it puts on our race overall. If Science was embraced and people worked as hard on progressing our material race as they did practicing religion, we would be in a whole other world.
 
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And this can be done without faith in a deity.
Of course. And do you agree that people should reach a certain level, when it comes to consciousness? Personally, I do believe that people are meant to reach a certain consciousness, and some people don't need religion to do this. But then again, a lot of people do. As long as a person gets to the point where there is union between him and nature, who cares how they get there?
 

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Spritituality and "faith" are completely different things in my opinion. You can connect with nature and the things around you that contain the same thing as us (energy) without thinking that Jesus died for everyone's sins in the world, even those who live in small villages in rain forests in South America.

Strong connections with energy are hard to come by, but some people can channel things differently...whether or not that cures their cancer and/or tumor is a completely different story though.

Thinking you are one with nature and the things around you might keep you happy, but it's not going to ensure you don't get prostate cancer or cervical cancer. But really, I don't know that for certain. There are a lot of things that we/everyone/scientists interpret incorrectly, just like a lot of people read into the bible and take it literally like fools. Just because you can categorize something, and you do it, doesn't mean it's done right, or that it's actually completely correct.
 
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Spritituality and "faith" are completely different things in my opinion. You can connect with nature and the things around you that contain the same thing as us (energy) without thinking that Jesus died for everyone's sins in the world, even those who live in small villages in rain forests in South America.

They are different to you, but for some people they are one and the same. You CAN connect to nature and things around you without thinking that some long haired Jew died for you, but who are you to tell someone they are wrong for their way of connecting? The REAL problem is the majority of the people who don't truly use the church and religion as a way to connect themselves with nature and "God". They go for the wrong reasons and not to really "search for God."
 
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its just the basic concept of having a negative vs. positive outlook on life.
This is exactly right.

However, I'd like to point out that having faith in a certain religion does not necessarily mean you will have a positive outlook, in fact, it can become negative.

For example, let's say a married Christian man sees a beautiful woman and thinks of her sexually in his mind. Right there he just committed a sin and the man may end up feeling very guilty about this natural behavior.

There are tons of instances were Christians will find themselves sinning, and as a result, it can torment them mentally, so much so that some may start to believe they are going to hell.
 

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^^^ In cases like that, I think its safe to say that religion is not working for those people. Why do something if it doesn't make you feel good and happy? Then again, there are plenty of people who truly are happier with religion.
I probably risk becoming a message board troll with this, but what "works" for you is totally irrelevant to what reality is

I think our civilization values truth enough for it to be what we base our lives on. Somehow it doesn't happen...

BTW, "Thou shall not lie" is not in the 10 Commandments, something to think about:confused:
 
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Believing in something for which there is no proof of existence is a big reason this world is fucked up imo. Faith is one of the evils of our world and teaching kids to believe in what they can't see is borderline-brainwash.

Whether it keeps people 'healthier' than otherwise has always been debatable, and I can show studies that counter this one with equivalent numbers of data. But even if it 'does' keep individuals more healthy themselves, it's not worth the hurt it puts on our race overall. If Science was embraced and people worked as hard on progressing our material race as they did practicing religion, we would be in a whole other world.
If you think science is the answer that is pretty sad. science has its place but science has also added a lot of false ideas to the world. although not as full of bullshit as christianity, science's is full of contradictions. as you say "Believing in something for which there is no proof of existence is a big reason this world is fucked up", science pushes ideas that have no "proof" in certain instances while denying other things that have no "proof" in instances that dont fit the paradigm. you cant see electricity but you know its there because the light turns on. western science denies the ideas of spirits even though there are many people who can communicate with them and they are called shamans. i think it would enlighten you personally to learn a little bit about shamanistic cultures or even attempt to partake in some of these rituals and see a different part of the world than what is right in front of you in this very limited dimension that is studied by the almighty science. you will learn that although most people cannot communicate with plants and that science would deny this possibility, it has been happening for thousands of years. you will also learn that science only deals with the one dimension that most people live their lives in, while there are powerful human beings that can break through into the other dimensions that exist. Just because the untrained eye cannot see the energy does not mean it is not there. I truly believe that too much emphasis placed on science is a scary thing, though I agree that christianity brings the same problems as both view the planet as something given them either as something to break apart and abuse to study or as something given to them by god as a resource. Either way the most important thing is lost, which is a true connection to nature.
 

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^ I received a B.s. in cultural anthropology last year, and my thesis and emphasis was in the Mayan and Shaman societies of south america. I can name you every 'known' shaman society that is currently living and where to find them... so I dont think im the one you want to tell about how Magic system people's work, haha.

There is absolutely no proof that any human being can communicate with spirits or the outside world. "Most" of the shamans and witchdoctors are using psychedelic drugs like Ayahuasca to perform their physical and mental rituals, and the ones that arent rely heavily on social acceptance and empowerment to get their messages across. It's simply a way of life that comes from the most ancient human core feelings, and they arent "really" talking with the dead. That's truly impossible (at the moment, at least) because there is no proof that has ever been conveyed besides through word of mouth.


You have a misconception of what Science is and especially saying its "1 dimensional" is totally the opposite of what it really is. Science is simply a word to explain *systematic* experiments on hypothesis to come up with reasonable, physical evidence on how aspects of this world work. It's not biased, and it can deal with anything, from your metaphysical "plant talkers" to how to "save the human race". You seem to think it speaks down on magic systems, mysticism, philosophical ideas, and other ways of life.

It doesn't... it's never denied any of those things, and I myself am a believer in some of the dimensional ideas you stated yourself. There is no contradiction happening here.

And id never deny that there isnt bad science. Of course there is, as with anything in life. There are corrupt scientists, there is bad data out there. But you shouldn't be swayed in your opinion by these negative things, because in theory the core idea behind science is essentially flawless to determine how objective data in this world works. (keyword: objective).

Also, Science doesn't attempt to prove anything. It only attempts to disprove things. Thats the most important point I learned in my years at school in anthro and it fully explains why the scientific method is the way it is... there are no FACTS.