Evidence of Present Life on Mars

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Exclusive: NASA Researchers Claim Evidence of Present Life on Mars

Wed Feb 16, 3:26 PM ET

Brian Berger
Space News Staff Writer
SPACE.com

WASHINGTON -- A pair of NASA (news - web sites) scientists told a group of space officials at a private meeting here Sunday that they have found strong evidence that life may exist today on Mars, hidden away in caves and sustained by pockets of water.

The scientists, Carol Stoker and Larry Lemke of NASA's Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley, told the group that they have submitted their findings to the journal Nature for publication in May, and their paper currently is being peer reviewed.

What Stoker and Lemke have found, according to several attendees of the private meeting, is not direct proof of life on Mars, but methane signatures and other signs of possible biological activity remarkably similar to those recently discovered in caves here on Earth.

Stoker and other researchers have long theorized that the Martian subsurface could harbor biological organisms that have developed unusual strategies for existing in extreme environments. That suspicion led Stoker and a team of U.S. and Spanish researchers in 2003 to southwestern Spain to search for subsurface life near the Rio Tinto river—so-called because of its reddish tint—the product of iron being dissolved in its highly acidic water.

Stoker did not respond to messages left Tuesday on her voice mail at Ames.

Stoker told SPACE.com in 2003, weeks before leading the expedition to southwestern Spain, that by studying the very acidic Rio Tinto, she and other scientists hoped to characterize the potential for a chemical bioreactor in the subsurface - an underground microbial ecosystem of sorts that might well control the chemistry of the surface environment.

Making such a discovery at Rio Tinto, Stoker said in 2003, would mean uncovering a new, previously uncharacterized metabolic strategy for living in the subsurface. For that reason, the search for life in the Rio Tinto is a good analog for searching for life on Mars, she said.

Stoker told her private audience Sunday evening that by comparing discoveries made at Rio Tinto with data collected by ground-based telescopes and orbiting spacecraft, including the European Space Agency's Mars Express, she and Lemke have made a very a strong case that life exists below Mars' surface.

The two scientists, according to sources at the Sunday meeting, based their case in part on Mars' fluctuating methane signatures that could be a sign of an active underground biosphere and nearby surface concentrations of the sulfate jarosite, a mineral salt found on Earth in hot springs and other acidic bodies of water like Rio Tinto that have been found to harbor life despite their inhospitable environments.

One of NASA's Mars Exploration Rovers, Opportunity, bolstered the case for water on Mars when it discovered jarosite and other mineral salts on a rocky outcropping in Merdiani Planum, the intrepid rover's landing site chosen because scientists believe the area was once covered by salty sea.

Stoker and Lemke's research could lead the search for Martian biology underground, where standing water would help account the curious methane signatures the two have been analyzing.

They are desperate to find out what could be producing the methane, one attendee told Space News. Their answer is drill, drill, drill.

NASA has no firm plans for sending a drill-equipped lander to Mars, but the agency is planning to launch a powerful new rover in 2009 that could help shed additional light on Stoker and Lemke's intriguing findings. Dubbed the Mars Science Laboratory, the nuclear-powered rover will range farther than any of its predecessors and will be carrying an advanced mass spectrometer to sniff out methane with greater sensitivity than any instrument flown to date.

In 1996 a team of NASA and Stanford University researchers created a stir when they published findings that meteorites recovered from the Allen Hills region of Antarctica contained evidence of possible past life on Mars. Those findings remain controversial, with many researchers unconvinced that those meteorites held even possible evidence that very primitive microbial life had once existed on Mars.
 
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there is life in every planet....this here in earth is the life of fucked up problems and rottin place....i wonder what others is like....
 
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
If it's not something either sentient of multi-celled then it ain't life!
LIFE:

The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.​

NITRO said:
Fuck that lets go to war. Bush better get on the horn.
We definately need to invade mars and kill off these freedom hating single cell organisms.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
LIFE:

The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.​
I know what "life" is, what I meant to say is that unless it's something other than a few germs I don't really care.
 
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
I know what "life" is, what I meant to say is that unless it's something other than a few germs I don't really care.
I know you may not care, but even the simplest life forms found on Mars would be HUGE. It should clearly demonstrate that life on Earth is really not that unique. If only one planet away from ours life is found, we will finally know for a fact that life exists outside of our planet.
 
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It will also be very important for scientists to understand how and why life can survive in such harsh conditions.

If we ever decide to cultivate Mars so one day it will be habitable to man, it will be vital to understand how plant life and other life forms can withstand the harsh temperatures.
 
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i bet ya life exists everywhere...but i'm wondering what they look like....it could be something that we can't even think of or don't have the knowledge of...
 
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According to COSMOS, if we were randomsly placed somewhere in the universe, the chance we would land on earth is 1 in 1000000000000000000000000000000000, so why do we think life would be on Mars?
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
It will also be very important for scientists to understand how and why life can survive in such harsh conditions.

If we ever decide to cultivate Mars so one day it will be habitable to man, it will be vital to understand how plant life and other life forms can withstand the harsh temperatures.

Conditions are relative IMO, I'm sure the mars organisms (if there are any) would think our living conditions are harsh. Especially right before payday every month.
 
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TOKZTLI said:
The Mars Underground XV are at war with the Mars Big Bad Rolling Queefs XVI up there, didn't ya know?
Nah I thought they squashed that beef. Still at the same old shit. Martians killing martians. I knew that truce would never last.
 
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RedStorm said:
According to COSMOS, if we were randomsly placed somewhere in the universe, the chance we would land on earth is 1 in 1000000000000000000000000000000000, so why do we think life would be on Mars?
Just think about it...like i've said, in my opinion i believe there is life everywhere I mean we just can't see it yet...there's so much shit that we still dont no a shit about ANYTHING...in about 1000 years from now they would probably find another life that they see in another planet...people that went to mars, they've found evidence that there is life whenever they found bacteria in mars...they just wont say it....government knows about everything...especially when it's about curing AIDS now i know this is a lil bit off the wall there but One thing they wont send it out is because if they do they just imagine how the population is gonna be...babies after babies after babies....
 
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RedStorm said:
According to COSMOS, if we were randomsly placed somewhere in the universe, the chance we would land on earth is 1 in 1000000000000000000000000000000000, so why do we think life would be on Mars?
Scratch that. That's not what it said at all. The actual quote is, "If we were randomly insterted in the Cosmos, the chance that we would find ourselves on or near a planet would be less than one in a billion trillion trillion." But still, the chance that life is so close to other life in preposterous. That's not to say taht I wouldn't want life to be found. I actually hope we do find life somewhere else, but I doubt it will happen.
 
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carlos said:
Just think about it...like i've said, in my opinion i believe there is life everywhere I mean we just can't see it yet...there's so much shit that we still dont no a shit about ANYTHING...in about 1000 years from now they would probably find another life that they see in another planet...people that went to mars, they've found evidence that there is life whenever they found bacteria in mars...they just wont say it....government knows about everything...especially when it's about curing AIDS now i know this is a lil bit off the wall there but One thing they wont send it out is because if they do they just imagine how the population is gonna be...babies after babies after babies....


People that went to Mars?
 
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RedStorm said:
Scratch that. That's not what it said at all. The actual quote is, "If we were randomly insterted in the Cosmos, the chance that we would find ourselves on or near a planet would be less than one in a billion trillion trillion." But still, the chance that life is so close to other life in preposterous. That's not to say taht I wouldn't want life to be found. I actually hope we do find life somewhere else, but I doubt it will happen.
LOL life forms aren't randomly placed somewhere.... as if a life form can exist first before a planet... thats a creationism-influenced thought the way you're trying to apply it isn't scientific.

It makes sense that there atleast once was life on mars... before there was life on earth(if you don't believe in creationism)....

You see in order for life forms to live there must be just the right conditions involving the sun and rotation..... if the earth were to rotate a little bit slower we would all burn to death... if it were to rotate a little bit faster we would all freeze to death...
Now we know that the state our sun is in it has gotten hotter than it used to be and considering that mars is the next planet from the sun before earth was able to substain life, mars was the planet with the "right conditions" for atomic particles to mix together and create a singular cell. Then as it would continue to get hotter the life on mars wouldn't be able to live under such harsh conditions and still billions of years would have to pass before earth become the planet with the "right conditions" for atomic particles to mix together to form a singular cell that could live.