Euthanasia - Should Amerikans have the right to assisted suicide?

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Considering that this issue will be debated amongst the US Supreme Court, I figure this is an appropriate thread. Your thoughts?

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Euthanasia test for Supreme Court
Wednesday, 5 October 2005, 15:14 GMT 16:14 UK

The US Supreme Court is hearing its first case under new leadership, concerning the emotionally charged issue of assisted suicide.

The federal government will argue that a law in the state of Oregon, allowing terminally ill patients to end their own lives, should be overturned.

The court's ruling will have implications across the US.

It will also be closely watched for indications of the court's direction under new Chief Justice John Roberts.

Mr Roberts was appointed after the death a month ago of former Chief Justice William Rehnquist.

State v country

Mr Roberts is Catholic and considered a conservative, and so might be expected to vote against euthanasia.

However, he is also seen as an advocate of a state's right to rule its own affairs, against interference from federal government.

Oregon is the only US state to permit euthanasia, following a 1997 law that was backed in a state referendum.

Since then 208 people, mostly cancer patients, have elected to die under the law, which has strict conditions.

A patient must have less than six months to live, must be deemed by two doctors as mentally fit to take the decision, and must present one written and two oral demands over a certain period.

He can then obtain lethal medication from his doctor, but must administer it himself.

The Bush administration has had the Oregon law in its sights for some years.

Former Attorney General John Ashcroft tried to annul the law in 2002, saying it depended on an improper use of medication by doctors and violated federal drug laws.

His order was overruled by an appeals court.

The government will on Wednesday use a similar argument before the Supreme Court, while Oregon's lawyers will argue that the government cannot interfere with state medical matters.

If the court rules that the Oregon law is constitutional, several states are poised to introduce similar legislation of their own.

Swing vote

The court itself has personal experience of terminal illness.

Mr Rehnquist died of an untreatable cancer.

Three of the nine justices have had cancer and a fourth has a wife who counsels dying young cancer patients.

Meanwhile Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, a former breast cancer patient, is due to step down from the court when Congress confirms her replacement.

Ms O'Connor has often had the swing vote on contentious court rulings. She provided the key fifth vote in a 1997 decision that patients have no constitutional right to doctor-assisted suicide, but that allowed individual states room to experiment.

If she steps down before the case is completed, her vote will not count.

In the event of a 4-4 tie, the court will probably order the case to be heard again.

President George Bush has nominated White House lawyer Harriet Miers to replace Ms Day O'Connor.
 

Dana Dane

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I believe that if you have a terminal illness, and are pretty much guaranteed to suffer the rest of your days, then you should 100% have the right to end it yourself. It can potentially save you and your family a lot of grief and money.
 
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It's a bit of a toss up.

I mean if people are in that much pain and are of sound mind then it seems reasonable.

I'm more concerned with the ethical issues it brings up for the medical profession and their quality of care standards. As well as future medical inovation. Why try and cure diseases or solve major medical issues if people can just sign off to die instead of battle to live.
 
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I just see the contradiction in right wing views when it comes to suicide and etanasia. I thought the goal of all Christians was to go to heaven and meeting Jesus. So why not speed up the process for those who are terminially ill? If they want to die the choice to live or die should be in their hands to take their life and deal with the ramifications, if there are any, themselves. Thats just my opinion.
 
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ColdBlooded said:
I'm more concerned with the ethical issues it brings up for the medical profession and their quality of care standards. As well as future medical inovation. Why try and cure diseases or solve major medical issues if people can just sign off to die instead of battle to live.

i don't think that would affect future experiments in medicine. they would still want to cure the diseases that are making people give up on life.

.. on topic i think if someone is terminally ill and would have to live out the rest of their days in pain and they don't have the fight in them to keep then let them go. to force someone living in pain to stay alive based on your beliefs is cruel and selfish.
 

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see, people's arguments are that "well if someone says they want to die and theyre very ill, their judgement could be impaired which could quite possibly make them say things they dont really mean" but i think its pretty obvious, if a person is going thru unbearable pain etc and they say they really would rather not live, then i think they'd be pretty serious about it.....i know there's situations where i would rather be dead than go thru certain shit...i guess a big part of the matter is putting yourself in their shoes
 
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'Dr Death' released from US jail



Jack Kevorkian, the man known as Dr Death and who helped the terminally ill to die, has been released from prison in the US state of Michigan.

Kevorkian was convicted in 1999 of the murder by injection of terminally ill Thomas Youk. A video of him dying was broadcast on television.

Kevorkian, 79, had served eight years of a 10-25 year sentence.

He has pledged not to counsel people on suicide but says he will continue to fight for the right to euthanasia.

Kevorkian won parole after an appeal based on his own failing health.

He emerged from prison, with his lawyer and a correspondent for the CBS television network, saying the release was "one of the high points of life", the Associated Press news agency reported.

TV interview

The BBC's Jeremy Cooke in New York says Jack Kevorkian was among the most controversial and divisive figures in 1990s America.

The elderly former pathologist insisted that patients living in pain had the right to die.

Our correspondent says Kevorkian proudly claimed to have helped some 130 people to end their lives, many using his so-called mercy machine, which delivered lethal amounts of drugs intravenously.

Some of the assisted suicides were in the back of his Volkswagen van.

His methods alienated many. In 1998 he offered on a "first come, first served" basis the kidneys of a man he had helped to die.

Kevorkian fought a long battle with the authorities in Michigan, thwarting four attempts to convict him despite the revocation of his medical licence in 1991 and a ban on assisted suicides to stop his work.

Thomas Youk suffered from ALS, or Lou Gehrig's disease, a wasting disorder of the nervous system.

A jury convicted Kevorkian of second-degree murder after watching the video of him injecting lethal drugs into Mr Youk.

Kevorkian had sent the video for broadcast on the CBS show 60 Minutes.



He plans to return to the show in an interview on Sunday.

Prior to his release, Kevorkian told a TV station in Detroit: "[Euthanasia] has got to be legalised. I'll work to have it legalised but I sure won't break any laws."

His release coincides with a key vote next week in California on allowing assisted suicides. Only the state of Oregon has passed such legislation.

Kevorkian's release has brought mixed emotions from the relatives of those he helped die.

Thomas Youk's brother, Terry, said: "It was a medical service that was requested and... compassionately provided by Jack. It should not be a crime."

But Tina Allerellie believed her sister, Karen Shoffstall, was suffering depression and doubted that she wanted to die.

"His intent, I believe, has always been to gain notoriety," Ms Allerellie said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6710643.stm
 
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When they are to sick to live life in a confortable state, what do we do typically? We take them to get put down.

In this situation if the individual wants to die because they can not bare their medical problems, who are we to say "you can not die"? Its no different than if the animal you take to the clinic can talk.

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